Swithed To Hero

is that the phone that has issues with their 3G? I didn't even know t mobile had 3G


thanks everyone but it seems that i might not get the hero or keep the pre

sprint called me and said that i am using to much roaming charges and i told them that i have no service at school, my house or my job. they gave me 3 options
1. set my phone to sprint only
2. cancel my contract and switch my phone number over to a different carrier and i dont have to pay the etf.
3. cancel my service.

i'm thinking about going to t-mobile and get the nexus one.
 
so many people here trash palm for buggy phones, they released updates about every month to make their phones better. But your telling me that androids flag ship, the latest and greatest, king dingling itself... Has a fixs on it's way? Lol wow... Not to mention every phone seams to run on different versions... Have to go through all these steps to close and app or check a notify, but with webOS, the notify is there waiting for you, and closing an app it's hit the button and flick up... Man, seams so much easier on webOS, what does andriod do better?


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so many people here trash palm for buggy phones, they released updates about every month to make their phones better. But your telling me that androids flag ship, the latest and greatest, king dingling itself... Has a fixs on it's way? Lol wow... Not to mention every phone seams to run on different versions... Have to go through all these steps to close and app or check a notify, but with webOS, the notify is there waiting for you, and closing an app it's hit the button and flick up... Man, seams so much easier on webOS, what does andriod do better?

Sounds like you made your decision. Go get the Pre and shut up. The pre releases new updates about every 5 weeks because they broke something with a previous update like exchange support or lost all your contacts or they are adding basic phone features like video recording on a device that programers have been working on for OVER A YEAR! If you want to deal with hardware issues and waiting for **** to come and it never does, just go to Sprint or Verizon and pick up your Palm Pre. Log in to precentral.net and leave us alone here. Try to find a post in there forums saying: "Thank god I made the switch from android to webos" It doesn't exist for a reason, people are moving the other direction.
BTW, I'm sorry you're a moron and can't figure out how to get to the home screen. There are two to three ways to do it, Press Home, which leaves the program open, back out until you're back to the home screen which closes the program, or click on menu to see if there is an exit button. It's not rocket science. Webos and Apple Iphone had way more problems when Google released than the N1. Plus, you can manually fix the issue by forcing it into 3G mode. FYI: T-mobile has a faster 3G network than either Sprint or Verizon. ******.
 
wow, someone needs some sleep... So lets see, an issue with email not working or NOT GETTING 3G... Never said I couldn't get to the home screen on a android... But your right, pre has won awards, doesn't has 3G issues with their flag ship phone, doesn't have 3 or 4 versions running around on different phones... So andriod can take a bideo, pre gets it soon... But if that's your argument and video is that important quit being a cheap butt and buy a thing called a camcorder lol nerd! What's t mobile's 3G speed? And if it is faster then cool... Then what will you say when sprints 4G ANDROID comes out?



=rufflez;37156]Sounds like you made your decision. Go get the Pre and shut up. The pre releases new updates about every 5 weeks because they broke something with a previous update like exchange support or lost all your contacts or they are adding basic phone features like video recording on a device that programers have been working on for OVER A YEAR! If you want to deal with hardware issues and waiting for **** to come and it never does, just go to Sprint or Verizon and pick up your Palm Pre. Log in to precentral.net and leave us alone here. Try to find a post in there forums saying: "Thank god I made the switch from android to webos" It doesn't exist for a reason, people are moving the other direction.
BTW, I'm sorry you're a moron and can't figure out how to get to the home screen. There are two to three ways to do it, Press Home, which leaves the program open, back out until you're back to the home screen which closes the program, or click on menu to see if there is an exit button. It's not rocket science. Webos and Apple Iphone had way more problems when Google released than the N1. Plus, you can manually fix the issue by forcing it into 3G mode. FYI: T-mobile has a faster 3G network than either Sprint or Verizon. ******.[/QUOTE]
 
wow, someone needs some sleep... So lets see, an issue with email not working or NOT GETTING 3G... Never said I couldn't get to the home screen on a android... But your right, pre has won awards, doesn't has 3G issues with their flag ship phone, doesn't have 3 or 4 versions running around on different phones... So andriod can take a bideo, pre gets it soon... But if that's your argument and video is that important quit being a cheap butt and buy a thing called a camcorder lol nerd! What's t mobile's 3G speed? And if it is faster then cool... Then what will you say when sprints 4G ANDROID comes out?



=rufflez;37156]Sounds like you made your decision. Go get the Pre and shut up. The pre releases new updates about every 5 weeks because they broke something with a previous update like exchange support or lost all your contacts or they are adding basic phone features like video recording on a device that programers have been working on for OVER A YEAR! If you want to deal with hardware issues and waiting for **** to come and it never does, just go to Sprint or Verizon and pick up your Palm Pre. Log in to precentral.net and leave us alone here. Try to find a post in there forums saying: "Thank god I made the switch from android to webos" It doesn't exist for a reason, people are moving the other direction.
BTW, I'm sorry you're a moron and can't figure out how to get to the home screen. There are two to three ways to do it, Press Home, which leaves the program open, back out until you're back to the home screen which closes the program, or click on menu to see if there is an exit button. It's not rocket science. Webos and Apple Iphone had way more problems when Google released than the N1. Plus, you can manually fix the issue by forcing it into 3G mode. FYI: T-mobile has a faster 3G network than either Sprint or Verizon. ******.
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Not only video, but also voice recognition software for dialing and opening programs and recognizing songs with programs like Shazam, which I use quite frequently. I used that on my LG Dare. Also, T-Mo/ATT/VZW are all adopting LTE and its going to be about 20Mbs peak, Sprints WiMax is 10Mbs. T-mo's current HDSPA is 7.5Mbs or something, but the network is 4th and the coverage is spotty (Sprint is too). ATT has OK coverage, but complains it drops calls because of all the iphone users hogging up the 3G (I call BS). VZW does have the best network around for coverage and reliability. Having said that, I'm happy I don't pay the bill I would on VZW because I have Sprint. Since I live in FL, I have 3G just about everywhere in the state but the Everglades.
Like I said, its not that the N1 can't do 3G. Watch youtube, it does 3G quite well, smokes anything with load times. It only happens in some markets. It only does 2G on ATT due to the different 3G frequencies, but ATT sucks, so who really cares. I haven't found a thing the Palm Pre does better than my Hero. Just like Apple, "there's and app for that" except theres a better change this useful app will be free. With this phone, I don't miss my ipod touch (it was stolen, not like I voluntarily parted with it). This phone does all the stuff that device did, plus its expandable to 32gb (can't wait for those cards to come out). With the pre, you're stuck with 8gb, 7 of which is usable. Right now, I have more than that with an 8GB sd card. If you get a pre, you will probably have to patch it to do whatever. If Palm pushes an update while you are sleeping, and you leave your phone patched, it will screw up your phone since patches mess with system files. I don't have to worry about that on my Hero. If HTC wants to release 2.1 tomorrow, I'm good to go. I'm not so sure there's going to be a huge benefit. the only thing I'm looking forward to is trying out the Google Nav with streetview and google goggles. I can wait though as I have Sprint nav which works well and google goggles is still in its infancy and not fully functional this moment, still a cool concept though. I'm not really stoked about the moving wallpapers. I'll probably play with it for like 5 minutes, then change it back to what I have now.
Palm also doesn't have profiles, something all their previous phones had. I doubt you're a business guy, but you could set a profile to change features on the phone. Blackberry does this, too. The Hero allows me to customize the Screens for whatever situation I'm in. I don't need patient's seeing my Garfield homescreen while I'm working.
Speaking of working. Lexi-comp, a program I use for work, was unopperable on the Pre. Its available in the market now, but its too useless because of how slow it runs. The android version runs much nicer. Not as nice as the iphone version, but still, it works well. They were programmers that got screwed when Palm changed the format on how their programs would work. I was a beta tester for the program and I received an update that crashed the program altogether.
I don't see you're point with 3 different versions of Android in circulation. So what? Most of the apps work from 1.6 and up. There are things that don't work on the Pixi that work on the Pre, and they run the same OS version. You're right, its late and I can't sleep and therefore, I'm grumpy. Have fun with your Pre. See you in 30 days before you're stuck with it.
For the record, I did have issues with 3G service sticking on one of my Palm Pre's which is why I got a 4th. It was constantly switching from 3G to 1x.
 
my pre switches over from 3g to 1x constantly. my battery life sucks it very bad. i can't live without my pre patched. it isn't a phone or functional without it. my phone freezes and slows down regardless if i am patched or unpatched.

on top of that if you read. sprint is basically kicking me off there network even though i have been there for 3 and a half years since i was 18. so i'm moving to t-mobile and getting the nexus one.
 
FYI: T-mobile has a faster 3G network than either Sprint or Verizon. ******.
This is actually relative to your signal strength my friend. In Springfield, MO (one of T-Mobile & Sprint's CS call center towns) both carriers have 2500+ employees within 20mile radius and T-Mobile has no 3G service here. Whereas Sprint's data speed's are topped out at EV-DO's "max" speeds for me.

1) Also, T-Mo/ATT/VZW are all adopting LTE and its going to be about 20Mbs peak, Sprints WiMax is 10Mbs. T-mo's current HDSPA is 7.5Mbs or something, but the network is 4th and the coverage is spotty (Sprint is too).
2) I don't see you're point with 3 different versions of Android in circulation. So what? Most of the apps work from 1.6 and up. There are things that don't work on the Pixi that work on the Pre, and they run the same OS version.
1) Actually, most of the carriers are working on UMTS, W-CDMA, HSDPA+HSUPA, and HSPA+ at the moment... they're all "3.5G" technologies and LTE is true 4G that's still being developed. Sprint is the one carrier in North America poised to put out a working 4G network 1st. WiMAX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Here's a link to read up on, and it shows current LTE/WiMax/HSPA+ speeds and estimated working speeds (1Gb/s!) Not to mention it shows working distances for the different technologies...

2) Thank you for pointing this out. I'll take it a step further... Android may have specific differences in device OS versions, but Palm currently does as well. Add to that, Palm also limits with geographic users can purchase apps and what apps are available... that's synergy at it's finest lol.
 
Maybe that thats Sprints issue... I'm in CO and Sprint is unquestioned GREAT here... My highest so far is 2.07 doesnloads... I hear about different states all the time but I have NEVER had an issue with sprint. I go to WY alot too and looking at the WY coverage map, a little town of CODY, WY on the north west corner of the state sprint shows no coverage. When I go, I get coverage all day long! But neither here nor there. My buddy just got the momment and he loves it already, he had the pre and didn't like it either. One thing that I'm liking about it is the app, there are so much more than on the pre. but then again the pre has only been out for 9 months... But my buddies complaint is the battery sucks on the momment, sucks on the pre also. apps ge the check on android, maybe pre does have bugs but from what I read they run updates all the time and for the most pat, the phone gets better ust about everytime. So I guess its just a prefference as far as what you like and how to do it. Sounds like you had a sour taste in your mouth from build quality but hey thats how it goes I guess. For Palms first slidding phone I don't think it is too bad, android doesn't make their phones so no worries there. I just hate how so many phones have different versions. One thing that I am really wanting is an adroid tablet... Archos has a bad wrap but keeping an eye on the Dell Mini 5, that looks like it could be a winner.


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Yeah, I get close to 2.0 as well at my girlfriends house. But at my sister's 7 miles down the road I get 0.7 when I do get service. Depends on where you are relative to the tower.
 
Yeah, there is a sour taste still. My gf and her family all have pre's and are all still on their first ones. The dell mini 5 does look sick, just wondering what the price tag will be an what carrier the 3g will be. I can see the different versions saying you away. For the most part, the versions are domestically differeny and some functionally differences are there. I'll patiently wait for 2.1 and not root my phone.
 

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