The iPhone SE 2020 basically just killed the Pixel 4a and other value flagships...

[eve6er69]

Let’s be more truthful.
No, the cpu won’t slow down in a few months. A few years maybe because, if the battery power drops to a certain point, the processor slows down to compensate. They certainly weren’t open about this (bad on Apple) but their processors hum along for a very long time.

Correct. I went from a 6S in 2015 to a iPhone 11 In 2019. I’ve had plenty of android phones that have slowed down after a few years. The only reason o went with the 11 was because my 6s lasted me so long while being problem free. I had the battery replaced when the life was at 84% and yes the new battery was a night and day increase in battery life, I did not notice a difference in processor speeds before and after the replacement.

If this 11 lasts me as long as the 6s did I will definitely stay on the Apple gang. If it fails in a year or two I’ll be looking towards android. Longest android phone I kept was a note3 until I started using the 6S.

 

[Morty2264]

If you're gonna buy an iPhone, I'd wait for the upcoming 12 series for one main reason...




FLAT EDGES!!!View attachment 320848

Flat edges?! Oh my. That's a great selling point.

 

[the_boon]

Flat edges?! Oh my. That's a great selling point.

Yep, flat edges had been a thing of the past since...Steve passed.

What's old is new again!

Finally a good design decision from Apple

 

[customshopkv1]

Those flat edges are sexy

 

[the_boon]

Those flat edges are sexy

Yep, they definitely mean function over form.

A flat edged phone feels far more secure in the hand than a curved edged one.

The step above that is to have flat edges made out of a rubber materials.

And then the ultimate thing is to have texture on top of flat rubber edges.

 

[anon(50597)]

Those flat edges are sexy

I agree. I loved that form factor and am glad they are bringing it back.

 

[the_boon]

I agree. I loved that form factor and am glad they are bringing it back.

Would be nice if they bring back the notification LED (one can dream).

Then everyone will be running around saying "Look what Apple just invented this little light is so cool"

 

[anon(50597)]

Would be nice if they bring back the notification LED (one can dream).

Then everyone will be running around saying "Look what Apple just invented this little light is so cool"

Please no.
I am trying to reduce distractions in my life, I don’t need a light flashing every time somebody responds to a post or I get an email.

 

[Kizzy Catwoman]

Well, I bit the bullet and picked up an iPad Mini. My Dad's older brother is in a nursing home and the only way to get ahold of him is with FaceTime. His kids got him an iPad so they could keep in touch with him. But after the virus took effect, they moved him to a more isolated room that doesn't have a landline (and he doesn't have a cell phone).

I'd mentioned to my uncle's family (pre-virus) that they could set up Duo on it and then my Dad could use one of my Android devices to contact him. But that never happened and now no one can download and setup Duo up for him and show him how to use it. I guess it's fine as we'll also be able to use it contact other relatives as well. The only sticking point is my Dad not a fan of video chat.

On the iPad, so far it hasn't been a happy time for me setting it up & using it. I thought maybe it would be different because my previous experiences with iOS was short intervals on holidays. But more time with it hasn't really chamged my opinion of iOS. Maybe if it had been the first OS I'd been exposed to it'd be different, but as it is it isn't, IMHO, as intuitive as they claim. If it weren't for FaceTime and my Dad being able to connect to relatives, it'd be returned.

Now don't get me wrong, the hardware seems great and the battery (standby in particular) is excellent, it's just iOS I have a problem with. However, for those who do like iOS, I'm sure it's a great device.

For me an iPad is best for tablets but Android is better for phones. I just got a new basic iPad for running certain apps, like Pages and Numbers. It is also great for content consumption. But I really don't like iOS either.

 

[the_boon]

Please no.
I am trying to reduce distractions in my life, I don’t need a light flashing every time somebody responds to a post or I get an email.

I would look at it the other way around.

If the LED is not flashing, then there's no need to pick up your phone and turn the screen on.

This would minimize unnecessary device pick ups/unlocks and make it less likely for the user to be tempted to use the phone for the "distractions".

So just set the notification LED to blink ONLY for important apps like missed calls, sms, e-mails, etc and leave it off for all the other unnecessary stuff.

Especially if you can customize it depending on which contact you want it to light up for or not.

 

[anon(50597)]

I would look at it the other way around.

If the LED is not flashing, then there's no need to pick up your phone and turn the screen on.

This would minimize unnecessary device pick ups/unlocks and make it less likely for the user to be tempted to use the phone for the "distractions".

So just set the notification LED to blink ONLY for important apps like missed calls, sms, e-mails, etc and leave it off for all the other unnecessary stuff.

Especially if you can customize it depending on which contact you want it to light up for or not.

I understand. It’s just, for me, it becomes too cumbersome.

I only need to know about emergencies and, those that would need to get through to me, can. The rest I am trying to tune out as much as possible. I choose when to pick up my phone or not.

These devices have become helpful tools and a means to connect to people everywhere. That’s great, to a certain point where they start taking over your life. There is no text or email in the world that is so important to me that I need to answer it immediately.....except that Saudi Prince who needs my bank account information so he can send me millions of dollars.

 

[vzwuser76]

Yep, they definitely mean function over form.

A flat edged phone feels far more secure in the hand than a curved edged one.

The step above that is to have flat edges made out of a rubber materials.

And then the ultimate thing is to have texture on top of flat rubber edges.

Yes and no. I'd say flat edges around the display (front side) and rounded on the back side. Flat edges on the back, while offering more grip, can also be more uncomfortable to hold for longer periods. The most comfortable phone I've held is still the original Moto X, which had a round back, not just rounded edges. But I never had any issues holding onto it.

 

[Mike Dee]

I would look at it the other way around.

If the LED is not flashing, then there's no need to pick up your phone and turn the screen on.

This would minimize unnecessary device pick ups/unlocks and make it less likely for the user to be tempted to use the phone for the "distractions".

So just set the notification LED to blink ONLY for important apps like missed calls, sms, e-mails, etc and leave it off for all the other unnecessary stuff.

Especially if you can customize it depending on which contact you want it to light up for or not.

It's on ongoing debate. Some like, some hate, some couldn't care less either way about LED notifications. I would say put one in for those that care and those that don't could disable it, but where do you put it on devices with no bezels?

 

[the_boon]

It's on ongoing debate. Some like, some hate, some couldn't care less either way about LED notifications. I would say put one in for those that care and those that don't could disable it, but where do you put it on devices with no bezels?

That's right, having more features is pretty much always a good thing, as long as said features can be disabled by those who don't want them.

But you can't enable a feature that isn't there...

A LED light takes so little space, if they can fit an earpiece/secondary loudspeaker above a tiny tiny bezel, then they can most likely fit a simple LED in there.

Or, they can make it through software, like it lights up a few pixels on the top corner of the device. There could be tons of customization options...unique colors per app...rotating colors...blinking rate...blinking animation...

 

[anon(50597)]

That's right, having more features is pretty much always a good thing, as long as said features can be disabled by those who don't want them.

But you can't enable a feature that isn't there...

A LED light takes so little space, if they can fit an earpiece/secondary loudspeaker above a tiny tiny bezel, then they can most likely fit a simple LED in there.

Or, they can make it through software, like it lights up a few pixels on the top corner of the device. There could be tons of customization options...unique colors per app...rotating colors...blinking rate...blinking animation...

That’s Android, put things on the phone for the sake of it. Maybe they’ll add one to a Pixel.

Apple is more simplified. No pkb’s, no notification light, etc. They keep it aesthetically light. Just my thoughts.

 

[Mike Dee]

That's right, having more features is pretty much always a good thing, as long as said features can be disabled by those who don't want them.

But you can't enable a feature that isn't there...

A LED light takes so little space, if they can fit an earpiece/secondary loudspeaker above a tiny tiny bezel, then they can most likely fit a simple LED in there.

Or, they can make it through software, like it lights up a few pixels on the top corner of the device. There could be tons of customization options...unique colors per app...rotating colors...blinking rate...blinking animation...

Samsung already makes the edge lightning screen for notifications, but it only lasts a couple of seconds. In any event, LED notification lights are pretty much a thing of the past and I don't see them returning any time soon.

 

[vzwuser76]

Samsung already makes the edge lightning screen for notifications, but it only lasts a couple of seconds. In any event, LED notification lights are pretty much a thing of the past and I don't see them returning any time soon.

I agree that it's better to have it for the people that want it, and those that don't can disable it. Or just have it disabled by default and those that want it can enable it.

As for where to put it, I'd think the answer is obvious for OLED screens. Just activate a few pixels on the display to act as a notification LED. And they don't have to be in the same area everytime either, that way you won't have to worry about wearing out one section of your display. Think of it like the screensaver function on some HDTVs. The ones where a logo flashes every few seconds in different parts of the screen. They could even make the size (aka the amount of pixels activated) user adjustable for people with poor eyesight.

 

[Laura Knotek]

Yes and no. I'd say flat edges around the display (front side) and rounded on the back side. Flat edges on the back, while offering more grip, can also be more uncomfortable to hold for longer periods. The most comfortable phone I've held is still the original Moto X, which had a round back, not just rounded edges. But I never had any issues holding onto it.

I agree with you regarding the in-hand feel of the Moto X. It is still the phone that was the most comfortable for me to hold and use. I never used a case on it.

 

[the_boon]

I agree with you regarding the in-hand feel of the Moto X. It is still the phone that was the most comfortable for me to hold and use. I never used a case on it.

Yep, flat edges and rubber back is how a company should design a phone if they care about ergonomics.

 

[the_boon]

Samsung already makes the edge lightning screen for notifications, but it only lasts a couple of seconds. In any event, LED notification lights are pretty much a thing of the past and I don't see them returning any time soon.

And I find Samsung's edge lighting to be kind of distracting with the animations glowing all around the screen.

I just want a simple small colored dot flashing every 2.5 seconds!