The Pixel's biggest competitor is........the iPad

[Aquila]

I wasn't really my intent to debate my decision in isolation. What I was trying to say that as long as the iPad is the most common tablet out there, I think Google is going to have a challenge selling Android phones to tablet users. Although, I don't know what percentage of smartphone users own tablets.

Tablets are becoming less common, especially as convertibles and laptops are gaining much of the tablet functionality. And Android tablets, in general, suck. The 2 best tablets available on the market are Android, Pixel C and Nvidia SHIELD, but after those two... it goes down hill fast. And those two are incredibly dated, so I might have a very difficult time justifying how exactly they're better than the newest iPads.

 

[VivaTerlingua]

Tablets are becoming less common, especially as convertibles and laptops are gaining much of the tablet functionality. And Android tablets, in general, suck. The 2 best tablets available on the market are Android, Pixel C and Nvidia SHIELD, but after those two... it goes down hill fast. And those two are incredibly dated, so I might have a very difficult time justifying how exactly they're better than the newest iPads.

Even if a great Android tablet were to come out, it would have a tough road ahead of it as Android tablet apps are way behind iPad apps.

 

[anon(10092459)]

I wasn't really my intent to debate my decision in isolation. What I was trying to say that as long as the iPad is the most common tablet out there, I think Google is going to have a challenge selling Android phones to tablet users. Although, I don't know what percentage of smartphone users own tablets.

Not sure how familiar you are with forums of any kind, but once you post a topic that topic is open for debate/discussion. So posters will comment and share their take on the topic.

Regarding tablets, I am of the opinion that most Android users that utilize tablets use the iPad. But those same users make Google the center of the ecosystem and not iOS. What I mean by that is Google is cross platform, so using say Chrome on iPad or Mac or PC or whatever for that matter, the user has pretty much the same experience.

 

[Aquila]

Even if a great Android tablet were to come out, it would have a tough road ahead of it as Android tablet apps are way behind iPad apps.

100% agree with you on the tough road, but I don't think it is because of apps. At least not entirely. There are some apps that are quite a bit better, but also some apps are surprisingly less supported or absent entirely. Interestingly enough, a whole lot of Google's own apps are better on iOS than they are on Android.

 

[enderhexfyre]

I wasn't really my intent to debate my decision in isolation. What I was trying to say that as long as the iPad is the most common tablet out there, I think Google is going to have a challenge selling Android phones to tablet users. Although, I don't know what percentage of smartphone users own tablets.

I own a pixel 2 XL and a 2017 iPad 9.7. I prefer these devices where they fit in my life and would never want an iPhone as I get the best of both worlds imho.

 

[Mike Dee]

100% agree with you on the tough road, but I don't think it is because of apps. At least not entirely. There are some apps that are quite a bit better, but also some apps are surprisingly less supported or absent entirely. Interestingly enough, a whole lot of Google's own apps are better on iOS than they are on Android.

When you consider the total number of useful apps out there I don't find much difference even if the differences exist. I use my phone way more than any tablet and that could be the reason why which tablet I use is irrelevant. When I had my Android tablet it was fine until it stopped getting updates. That was my biggest gripe with Android tablets because we generally keep tablets longer than phones or at least I do. Someone bought me the iPad Air as a gift going back. I used to use it a lot but now not so much. I can do most everything I need to do on my phone.... Just easier than whipping out a big tablet. I also find that I prefer using a real keyboard with a tablet. I have mine in a ZAGG folio keyboard case so it ends up being more like a laptop.

 

[VivaTerlingua]

Not sure how familiar you are with forums of any kind, but once you post a topic that topic is open for debate/discussion. So posters will comment and share their take on the topic.

Regarding tablets, I am of the opinion that most Android users that utilize tablets use the iPad. But those same users make Google the center of the ecosystem and not iOS. What I mean by that is Google is cross platform, so using say Chrome on iPad or Mac or PC or whatever for that matter, the user has pretty much the same experience.

I'm obviously not trying to dictate what people can say. I just wanted to discuss the iPad/Android phone thing in general. Not specific to me. But that's OK, I'm happy to talk about me too

 

[VivaTerlingua]

I can do most everything I need to do on my phone.

You must be young Us older people appreciate the bigger screen.

 

[Mike Dee]

You must be young Us older people appreciate the bigger screen.

I'm 59 years young...... That's why I like larger phones but I don't need a tablet for most things.

 

[Stevenmc8602]

You must be young Us older people appreciate the bigger screen.

That's funny bc most people I see using tablets are kids and people who use them for work

 

[Almeuit]

That's funny bc most people I see using tablets are kids and people who use them for work

This is the normal use case I see as well.

 

[bnice]

I already new the op would find excuses for the pixel XL phone. If you been with iOS for years, how is 14 days experiences going to change your mind process? It's all about preference, some prefer iPhone,some Samsung some the google pixel. All this imessage, iTunes and this app works better, oh and I'm invested in this and that os is just excuses.

 

[Stevenmc8602]

This is the normal use case I see as well.

I think it became like that bc the screen on phones kept getting bigger so the need for them diminished greatly

 

[sixty_four]

I'm 59 years young...... That's why I like larger phones but I don't need a tablet for most things.

I still use a Nexus 7 2013 and an old Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.5. Mostly at home and in bed while winding down for the day (catching up on news, reading Kindle and Marvel Unlimited content).

 

[Aquila]

This is the normal use case I see as well.

Exactly. I use one for school instead of a laptop most of the time as well, but same idea as using it for work. The other major use case is as an e-reader.

 

[jlarkins08]

I have an iPad mini 4 and a OG Pixel, I have no issues using both devices everyday and Google makes it easy for me to sync information between devices! I love having both OSes

 

[van_basten]

I don't see how iPad is a competitor of Pixels. I have a Pixel 2 and an iPad 9.7-inch 2017. It's a good combination. I do not want an iPhone or an android tablet.

 

[VivaTerlingua]

I don't see how iPad is a competitor of Pixels. I have a Pixel 2 and an iPad 9.7-inch 2017. It's a good combination. I do not want an iPhone or an android tablet.

Everyone is using themselves for examples. You all are not average users. I can not picture giving an Android phone to my dad, mom, girlfriend, or boss and even remotely expecting them to coordinate it with their iPad.

 

[Almeuit]

Everyone is using themselves for examples. You all are not average users. I can not picture giving an Android phone to my dad, mom, girlfriend, or boss and even remotely expecting them to coordinate it with their iPad.

Well of course we are. What else do I go off of? . You seem to make it sound like Android is some supercomputer of death that no normal person can grasp... It isn't that serious. iPhone is more friendly but it just feels you're making Android into something crazy when it isn't that bad.

My parents even struggle with iPhones. I could have taught them Android but I told them to go with iPhone due to Facetime w/ the fam (aunts/uncles/etc.). Not because I couldn't teach it... Tapping Facebook on my Pixel is the same as tapping Facebook on my iPhone when I had it.

 

[Mike Dee]

Both of your threads are a clear indication that you need to justify why the Pixel doesn't work for you. The iPhone is great phone and the iPad is a great tablet. If you feel that works for you than that's great. The iPad is not the pixels greatest competitor. If the iPad was the deciding factor on how people picked their phones than all of Android would be concerned not just Pixel.