There is a 4G LTE phone with GB now, what's the excuse now?

I don't think you can compare the Bionic having GB to the Thunderbolt not having GB. First off, the LTE hardware is not the same between the two, as far as I understand, so I'm not sure you can blame LTE as the problem that the Thunderbolt has been facing as far as getting GB.

I've been wondering for a while now if the problems that the Thunderbolt has had (the reboots and signal issues) is more to do with the different 3G radio than anything else (eHPRD). I have never had bad problems with reboots, but it has happened from time to time, and it always seems to be when in a 3G area, not 4G. The other LTE phones have more traditional 3G radios and they don't seem to suffer from the reboot issues from what I've been told.

Alternatively, the dev community is just that much better than the developers at HTC, and that's why we've been able to have rooted GB long before "official" GB :P
 
There is nothing else to wait for. Now that MotoGoogle has the first GB LTE phone, they will enjoy the exclusivity period they have negotiated w/ VZ. Soon they will allow the release of GB for the TB.
 
Well Verizon has offered me two free months of service to upgrade to the bionic! I actually said no lol!. I can't believe I did not take the deal. I am off to root and enjoy pure thunderbolt bliss!!

All I'd want to switch is to keep my unlimited data and to pay the 2 year price of the bionic. Can't afford list.
 
Wow I still cant believe there are so many VZW apologists on here. There are Developers, who have day jobs, who are pushing out ROMs that have GB working perfectly for the Thunderbolt.

Yeah MR1 was buggy but keep in mind, these people are running a business which advertised a product that had certain capabilities.

You guys can say all you want but at the end of the day Verizon cant keep up with a bunch of hobby developers, and that my friends is pathetic
 
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Wow I still cant believe there are so many VZW apologists on here. There are Developers, who have day jobs, who are pushing out ROMs that have GB working perfectly for the Thunderbolt.
Two things. First: It's a hellovalot easier to "push out ROMs" when they don't have to please VZW for quality checks. The playing field between HTC and the "developers" you speak of is not even. Second: The ROMs these developers are pushing out are not "working perfectly". Just the facts. I mean, a number of these roms have no email/text notification. Also, a number have no ability to use the legitimate "paid for" Mobile Hotspot. Or the "My Verizon" app. Perfectly? Haha... I sure hope the official OTA GB update works "more perfectly" than that!

I do appreciate what the developers are doing. I think it's great. But making a direct comparason to the HTC official devs is really not appropriate. Totally different ball game.

-Frank
 
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Hope you realize the official release wont be like the roms you have now, Sense 3.0 will not be installed and none of the performance tweaks that are loaded in the custom roms..

Oh, I do. Like I said...

LONG LIVE THE DEV COMMUNITY!!

I wouldn't be impressed with GB probably from the official channels anyway. Why would I want to downgrade?:mad:
 
Two things. First: It's a hellovalot easier to "push out ROMs" when they don't have to please VZW for quality checks. The playing field between HTC and the "developers" you speak of is not even. Second: The ROMs these developers are pushing out are not "working perfectly". Just the facts. I mean, a number of these roms have no email/text notification. Also, a number have no ability to use the legitimate "paid for" Mobile Hotspot. Or the "My Verizon" app. Perfectly? Haha... I sure hope the official OTA GB update works "more perfectly" than that!

I do appreciate what the developers are doing. I think it's great. But making a direct comparason to the HTC official devs is really not appropriate. Totally different ball game.

-Frank

Sorry Frank, but every example you used is invalid. I don't get VM notifications pushed from VZW, but you didn't state that one, (and there's apps for that). Nice try on calling out rom dev's. The only reason they don't have the speed the dev community has is because they have way more OS systems to work on at one time, per employment. You don't need to apologize for them OVER AND OVER, they got their own back man, it just makes them look worse that randoms are trying to do it for them.
 
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Oh, I do. Like I said...

LONG LIVE THE DEV COMMUNITY!!

I wouldn't be impressed with GB probably from the official channels anyway. Why would I want to downgrade?:mad:

This wasn't directed to you directly, I was just using your statement to point out to other post that Sense 3.0 isn't included with GB, it has been clear that a number of users did not realize that the roms they load from the community isn't a stock build and developers had added features.
 
This wasn't directed to you directly, I was just using your statement to point out to other post that Sense 3.0 isn't included with GB, it has been clear that a number of users did not realize that the roms they load from the community isn't a stock build and developers had added features.

Sure it wasn't buddy.
 
Sorry Frank, but every example you used is invalid. I don't get VM notifications pushed from VZW, but you didn't state that one
Yeah, I got that wrong. It's VM that doesn't show notifications. Gotta keep up better with my bugs. :)

-Frank



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What really surprises me is that this discussion is even taking place. We will get it when we get it. If I wanted it that badly I would root. I have worked out most of the issues I had with my Tb and I like it. If I could get over my intimidation of rooting and I wanted GB I would root. Until then patience is a great virtue.
 
What really surprises me is that this discussion is even taking place. We will get it when we get it. If I wanted it that badly I would root. I have worked out most of the issues I had with my Tb and I like it. If I could get over my intimidation of rooting and I wanted GB I would root. Until then patience is a great virtue.

+1 I agree... :D
 
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Wow I still cant believe there are so many VZW apologists on here. There are Developers, who have day jobs, who are pushing out ROMs that have GB working perfectly for the Thunderbolt.

Yeah MR1 was buggy but keep in mind, these people are running a business which advertised a product that had certain capabilities.

You guys can say all you want but at the end of the day Verizon cant keep up with a bunch of hobby developers, and that my friends is pathetic
Good point!!
 
Who says it is bug riddled?

Anyone whom thinks an update will not have bugs is nieve. I spend 60 hours a week dissecting bug riddled updates.


Wow I still cant believe there are so many VZW apologists on here. There are Developers, who have day jobs, who are pushing out ROMs that have GB working perfectly for the Thunderbolt.

Yeah MR1 was buggy but keep in mind, these people are running a business which advertised a product that had certain capabilities.

You guys can say all you want but at the end of the day Verizon cant keep up with a bunch of hobby developers, and that my friends is pathetic

There will never be a time when OEM developers can keep up with community developers.

And it is not just Verizon's testing, its also a supreme lack of fresh eyes on the project and a need for a more polished product. Why do you think Samsung wanted the creator of CyanogenMod? Copy+Paste porting does not sell phones, which is why the comment made in another topic on this forum of selling all Android phones vanilla would be rather poor choice business-wise. Each software update, big or small, carries the expectation of added features. Added features run the high potential of bugs, which then have to be worked out... if the OEM devs can find them.

You are comparing a free-lance pirate versus a country's navy ship: A pirate can fire on whatever ship he wants, regardless of affiliation, although such freedom comes with little financial backing. A country's navy ship is required to walk on egg-shells and honour treaties/cease-fires in return for having the nation's coffers fund their voyages. Pirates tend to be the bigger innovator based on necessity, but they require other ships to plunder in order to remain afloat.

Translation: OEM devs often times are bound by constraints community devs are not. While community devs often require their base for development leaked from OEM devs, they tend to be more innovative based on the necessity of creativity and speed (what fun is a custom ROM that has absolutely nothing "custom" about it? What good is a Eclair ROM for the Thunderbolt?). OEM devs in most cases can produce a more polished product due to more vast resources, but it comes at the cost of the speed and innovation under which community devs thrive.


Sorry Frank, but every example you used is invalid. I don't get VM notifications pushed from VZW, but you didn't state that one, (and there's apps for that). Nice try on calling out rom dev's. The only reason they don't have the speed the dev community has is because they have way more OS systems to work on at one time, per employment. You don't need to apologize for them OVER AND OVER, they got their own back man, it just makes them look worse that randoms are trying to do it for them.

In my opinion, HTC's numbers as a company speak for themselves. They push out more updates and faster than other OEMs. They really need to apologize for nothing. HTC has been working tirelessly to get Gingerbread pushed to all of their currently supported line up while trying not to get sued for some asinine infringement claim from some half eaten piece of fruit.

We at Verizon have been working tirelessly to get updates approved for two-thirds of the Droid franchise while trying not to screw up phones (lot of good that did lol). I personally would rather a working phone on *slightly* outdated software, than bleeding-edge software that never bloody works.



(Me and my mass quoting lol)
 
We don't have it because they have to Sense out GB. And unlike us, VZW isn't content on releasing an update that isn't fully working. Flashing camera fixes and locking GPS on a previous rom aren't options.

Having used a Blackberry Storm. I know not to get angry over a non released updates. It will be out when its ready.
 
While Bionic has GB it is not problem free. Looks like same issues Proton users experienced. Some are very similar to our MR1 issues, though I don't think we had random shutdowns. Based on leaked RUUs I think HTC talk of September is very likely. The wait really isn't all that long.

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While Bionic has GB it is not problem free. Looks like same issues Proton users experienced. Some are very similar to our MR1 issues, though I don't think we had random shutdowns. Based on leaked RUUs I think HTC talk of September is very likely. The wait really isn't all that long.

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Some of us did have random shutdowns on MR1. I had 3 or 4 of them.
 
Gingerbread is suppose to be bringing the Thunderbolt allot of the so called fixes for the shortcomings of the phone. The in and out connection of the GPS for one, the fix for the swype keyboard in sms for two and just the all around smoother and faster response. I don't think that is asking too much considering this phone was advertised with Gingerbread on it's release. Skype is one more apk that will perform a hell of allot better with Gingerbread and many other apk's. That is why I want Gingerbread. I could easily root the Thunderbolt and run one of the best roms out there from Bamf but I have rooted every one of my phones and I am going to keep this guy stock, maybe root it after the Gingerbread update we will see. I want the complete stock rom as a back up for when I do run a custom Bamf rom, call me dumb but this phone is just not like any other phone.
 

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