Things You Don't Like About The 6P?

I'm surprised battery is an issue.

Well, remember that battery performance is extremely volatile. Everyone uses their phones differently.. different apps, different network conditions, etc. There's no way to really compare it... and that's also why I put zero weight on those battery test graphs that get posted on sites during reviews. Those are really controlled conditions and only indicate how well a phone does in that exact test.

So while I get stellar performance out of my 6P.... I am not going to assume that everyone has the same experience.
 
I don't like the fact that anyone can get one. I wish Google would screen the users and only give them to the worthy. /s
 
Well, remember that battery performance is extremely volatile. Everyone uses their phones differently.. different apps, different network conditions, etc. There's no way to really compare it... and that's also why I put zero weight on those battery test graphs that get posted on sites during reviews. Those are really controlled conditions and only indicate how well a phone does in that exact test.

So while I get stellar performance out of my 6P.... I am not going to assume that everyone has the same experience.

agreed, I'm just surprised with the deviation in different usage patterns. I thought I used mine somewhat heavily, but I pay attention to what apps kill my battery, keep it at 30 seconds, black wallpaper, low brightness and a great signal from VZ. If someone has a problem with battery, I'd think they'd at least implement some of those actions, and in doing so, wouldn't experience such a significant difference.

I really do get a great signal 24/7, and I keep brightness as low as possible, often times all the way to the left. I think I underestimated the impact just those two things have.
 
With the moto x, as soon as you start driving the car, the phone would do the following if you receive a text:

1st. It informs you of the text and whom its from
2nd. It asks if you'd like to hear it.
3rd. It reads said message
4th. It asks if you'd like to respond
5th. It asks what your message is.
6th. It reads the message back to you for accuracy
7th. When you've ok'd the message, it asks if it should send it.

Now, it does all of these things over Bluetooth, and there's nothing to set up or turn on. It just worked, and it was awesome and I miss it terribly. If you know of an app that does all those things and does them well, please let me know. I'll get it immediately. I'll happily pay for an app that does all these things, if it works.
 
With the moto x, as soon as you start driving the car, the phone would do the following if you receive a text:

1st. It informs you of the text and whom its from
2nd. It asks if you'd like to hear it.
3rd. It reads said message
4th. It asks if you'd like to respond
5th. It asks what your message is.
6th. It reads the message back to you for accuracy
7th. When you've ok'd the message, it asks if it should send it.

Now, it does all of these things over Bluetooth, and there's nothing to set up or turn on. It just worked, and it was awesome and I miss it terribly. If you know of an app that does all those things and does them well, please let me know. I'll get it immediately. I'll happily pay for an app that does all these things, if it works.

damn, that's pretty sweet ... I don't know much about Android Auto, if imagine that would be your only option to get that level of customization. I can see why you miss it that sounds really cool.
 
With the moto x, as soon as you start driving the car, the phone would do the following if you receive a text:

1st. It informs you of the text and whom its from
2nd. It asks if you'd like to hear it.
3rd. It reads said message
4th. It asks if you'd like to respond
5th. It asks what your message is.
6th. It reads the message back to you for accuracy
7th. When you've ok'd the message, it asks if it should send it.

Now, it does all of these things over Bluetooth, and there's nothing to set up or turn on. It just worked, and it was awesome and I miss it terribly. If you know of an app that does all those things and does them well, please let me know. I'll get it immediately. I'll happily pay for an app that does all these things, if it works.

This is why I have no plans to move to Nexus.

But you may want to try Agent: https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...e/apps/details?id=com.tryagent&token=p23eZMDZ

Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
 
Totally agree with you on this one. I have used virtually every flagship introduced by Samsung, Motorola, LG and HTC over the past few years (yes, I do go through a LOT of phones) and although in my opinion the Note 5 is a dead heat in terms of quality, function, etc., this one for me has been the best I have ever used. It's not perfect but no phone is, but I definitely haven't had any of the performance issues or quality concerns others seem to have experienced.

Battery percentage on the notification panel is definitely too small -- I will agree with that!
 
With the moto x, as soon as you start driving the car, the phone would do the following if you receive a text:

1st. It informs you of the text and whom its from
2nd. It asks if you'd like to hear it.
3rd. It reads said message
4th. It asks if you'd like to respond
5th. It asks what your message is.
6th. It reads the message back to you for accuracy
7th. When you've ok'd the message, it asks if it should send it.

Now, it does all of these things over Bluetooth, and there's nothing to set up or turn on. It just worked, and it was awesome and I miss it terribly. If you know of an app that does all those things and does them well, please let me know. I'll get it immediately. I'll happily pay for an app that does all these things, if it works.

Umm. I'm not sure you know how bluetooth works in a car. My friend's V10 does the same thing. My other friend's Samsung does the same thing. Oh wait. My Nexus 6p does the SAME thing. It all depends on the car, not the phone. I have my texts read, my messages read, etc. It is a function of the car's abilities, not the phone. And the car does not have Android Auto.
 
Umm. I'm not sure you know how bluetooth works in a car. My friend's V10 does the same thing. My other friend's Samsung does the same thing. Oh wait. My Nexus 6p does the SAME thing. It all depends on the car, not the phone. I have my texts read, my messages read, etc. It is a function of the car's abilities, not the phone. And the car does not have Android Auto.
The difference is all you need is the phone and not the advanced bluetooth operations of modern vehicles. I used to set my x's in a mount and the phone would sense it was in a car and would Automatically go into drive mode and do ALL of the above. No bluetooth necessary.....
 
Umm. I'm not sure you know how bluetooth works in a car. My friend's V10 does the same thing. My other friend's Samsung does the same thing. Oh wait. My Nexus 6p does the SAME thing. It all depends on the car, not the phone. I have my texts read, my messages read, etc. It is a function of the car's abilities, not the phone. And the car does not have Android Auto.

A fancy, more advanced car stereo is not needed for the Moto X to do all these fancy auto-detecting, read and respond to text message things.

Actually, no connection, be it wired or wireless, is needed for the Moto X to do this.
 
A fancy, more advanced car stereo is not needed for the Moto X to do all these fancy auto-detecting, read and respond to text message things.

Actually, no connection, be it wired or wireless, is needed for the Moto X to do this.

that really is cool. I'm obviously aware of what Bluetooth can do, as I'm sure everyone else here is, but that the Moto X can do that kinda functionality on its own is pretty sweet.
 
My biggest concern is that the sounds and notifications. Im coming from a blackberry Z10 so on OS10 there was a so many options for every scenario from even different color LED light for a certain app.

Im having trouble finding an app that can suit my need. Anyone have some suggestions? Im also willing to pay for a decent app. Thanks!
 
My biggest concern is that the sounds and notifications. Im coming from a blackberry Z10 so on OS10 there was a so many options for every scenario from even different color LED light for a certain app.

Im having trouble finding an app that can suit my need. Anyone have some suggestions? Im also willing to pay for a decent app. Thanks!

start with lightflow ... notifications on the 6p, or on any Android/IPhone will never be as good as your BB10 no matter how many apps you install, but that's not saying you can't have a good experience.

I also use mymail since gmail was giving me trouble with my notifications. that, combined with lightflow has made a big improvement.
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but those features were later available on the Moto X through Moto Assist... which they've discontinued for Marshmallow+ users because:

The release of a new Android version is a great time to take a fresh look at our signature Moto Enhancements to ensure we’re complementing Android (not competing with it). Android 6.0 Marshmallow includes some great new features similar to things we’ve developed in the past. For example, you’ll find an option for ‘Do not disturb’ under the ‘Sound and notification’ settings to make sure you’re not interrupted during meetings or while sleeping. That’s similar to Moto Assist, so we’re removing Moto Assist as part of the upgrade to M.

While I'm familiar with the Moto X models, I haven't personally used them for extended periods of time where I'd be commuting with it and such. If M truly does replicate the contextual features of Assist, then I have no issue with that decision. If M's features are "close enough," but lacking some of the contextual "magic" (specifically the in-car conversational steps as mentioned above), then that's definitely a loss, though I can understand Moto's motivations regardless. It really does come down to the complementation versus competition of features, and when such decisions have to be made there are almost always a few details or nuances that are lost as a result.

I use Bluetooth far less often than most, so I'm not much of an authority there, but that's my two cents on why people may have felt a bit let down as those originally-innovative Moto X features have made their way into Google's code base and Moto doesn't feel the need to maintain their own version any longer.

What don't I like about the 6P?

If there is any moisture on my fingers at all, or significant humidity (i.e. some condensation on the 6P itself), the fingerprint sensor is useless. It's excellent in dry conditions though, fast and accurate, and I didn't even bother to train it "well" on my fingerprints.

It's as large as I would want to go with a phone, and I'm glad it's not any wider than it is -- back when the first phablets were announced, a major observation was "more height can be useful and adaptable to, but more width very quickly becomes a usability problem," and that still holds true. I love the feel of the 6P itself, but because it's at that upper size limit already, adding any type of case or bumper makes me feel like I'm so much more likely to mishandle and drop it that the case isn't doing me many favors.
 
What don't I like about the 6P?

If there is any moisture on my fingers at all, or significant humidity (i.e. some condensation on the 6P itself), the fingerprint sensor is useless. It's excellent in dry conditions though, fast and accurate, and I didn't even bother to train it "well" on my fingerprints.

Isn't that true for pretty much any phone with a fingerprint sensor? My iPhone does that, and my Galaxy S6 did it too.
 
Isn't that true for pretty much any phone with a fingerprint sensor? My iPhone does that, and my Galaxy S6 did it too.

Sure, all sensors are affected by it -- I'm just saying my personal experience is that it seems to affect the 6P's well before the one on my 5S. It's hardly a scientific comparison, and I did return the first 6P I got for unrelated display and fingerprint sensor grounding issues, so take it with a grain of salt.
 
A fancy, more advanced car stereo is not needed for the Moto X to do all these fancy auto-detecting, read and respond to text message things.

Actually, no connection, be it wired or wireless, is needed for the Moto X to do this.

I think it's cool that the Moto X can do those things on its own. My point was only to point out that with some, not all, Bluetooth systems in cars these days, the same thing can be accomplished, INCLUDING the 6p.
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but those features were later available on the Moto X through Moto Assist... which they've discontinued for Marshmallow+ users because:



While I'm familiar with the Moto X models, I haven't personally used them for extended periods of time where I'd be commuting with it and such. If M truly does replicate the contextual features of Assist, then I have no issue with that decision. If M's features are "close enough," but lacking some of the contextual "magic" (specifically the in-car conversational steps as mentioned above), then that's definitely a loss, though I can understand Moto's motivations regardless. It really does come down to the complementation versus competition of features, and when such decisions have to be made there are almost always a few details or nuances that are lost as a result.

I use Bluetooth far less often than most, so I'm not much of an authority there, but that's my two cents on why people may have felt a bit let down as those originally-innovative Moto X features have made their way into Google's code base and Moto doesn't feel the need to maintain their own version any longer.

What don't I like about the 6P?

If there is any moisture on my fingers at all, or significant humidity (i.e. some condensation on the 6P itself), the fingerprint sensor is useless. It's excellent in dry conditions though, fast and accurate, and I didn't even bother to train it "well" on my fingerprints.

It's as large as I would want to go with a phone, and I'm glad it's not any wider than it is -- back when the first phablets were announced, a major observation was "more height can be useful and adaptable to, but more width very quickly becomes a usability problem," and that still holds true. I love the feel of the 6P itself, but because it's at that upper size limit already, adding any type of case or bumper makes me feel like I'm so much more likely to mishandle and drop it that the case isn't doing me many favors.

The only thing that got removed with no replacement are the location-based notification controls.

Time and calendar settings are part of Marshmallow.

Reading messages is moved to Moto Voice and it still auto detects driving.

Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
 
I think Google read my post and fixed the issue.

I haven't had any Bluetooth issues in a while since posting it. LOL
 

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