This is the image-stabilization that should have been in Note 3

[LunatiqueRob]

Samsung announces new 13MP camera unit with optical image stabilization: Connect

I guess it'll be in Note 4 and S5 instead.

 

[Almeuit]

Being as they just announced that yesterday.. I'd say it wasn't ready for the Note 3 in time.. Hence why it's not in the phone.

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[MastaCow53]

How about just hold your phone steady. Kids today are so spoiled.

It boggles my mind that there are 30somethings today that have never manually focused a camera.

 

[LunatiqueRob]

How about just hold your phone steady. Kids today are so spoiled.

It boggles my mind that there are 30somethings today that have never manually focused a camera.

There's always going to be situations where a fast autofocus and image-stabilization would help, regardless if you are a skilled photographer. For example, during spur-of-the-moment candid shoots of people moving around and not waiting for you to press the shutter button, such as children, pets, people at social gatherings, street photography, performers, etc. You often can't predict in what direction the subject will suddenly move, so autofocus (especially continuous focus tracking) would be extremely useful. As for image-stabilization, what if you are riding on a vehicle that is moving and vibrating? You can try to hold your hand steady as much as you want and it won't make any difference. Image-stabilization would help a lot in that situation. Also, some people happen to get caffeine shakes after they drink coffee, or they're just physically exhausted at the moment, or they are walking and shooting at the same time (either on purpose, or being forced to be moving while shooting, such as being pushed by crowds, trying to document emergency situations, etc).

Technological advances are always going to have its uses, and I welcome them with open arms. If people feel the need to develop good ol' fashioned skills on top of using high-tech features, that just means they have extra motivation and a different set of priorities than the average folk. The typical consumer really just wants it as simple and easy as possible--it's human nature.

I'm a skilled photographer, but I totally would love to have as many high-tech features on my photography/video-capable devices as possible--they just gives me more possibilities than without.

 

[kilofoxtrot]

I have my Sony RX100 II with me 99.99% of the time. I'm not worried about the N3 camera's capabilities.

 

[Botti]

If you need Lumia, buy that one instead. I think N3 is fine, better than my old S3 at least. Would probably appreciate those features, but not such a big deal.

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[LunatiqueRob]

I have my Sony RX100 II with me 99.99% of the time. I'm not worried about the N3 camera's capabilities.

But if you could have better features in your smartphone's camera, it's not a negative in any way, right? Let's assume that for some reason, you couldn't use your RX100 II--maybe you accidentally dropped it in the ocean while riding on a boat, or it got stolen while on vacation, and the phone is all you had on you, and you see so many interesting things that day that you'd want to shoot (maybe it's happening right in front of you, and you can't just run to the nearest store to buy another dedicated camera). If your phone was very capable as a camera, wouldn't it make things better for you in that situation?

 

[runamuck0870]

How about just hold your phone steady. Kids today are so spoiled.

It boggles my mind that there are 30somethings today that have never manually focused a camera.

It always boggles me that luddites are so infatuated with doing things the hard way.

Anandtech's review of the N3 had stated that the N3 and S4 share the same camera, but that the S4 included a low light processing filter that was, for some reason or another, not included with the N3. It sounded like this was a software trick and had nothing to do with hardware or sensor. Lets hope that Samsung releases an update that lets the N3's low-light photo's at least match those of the S4's....as-is, it's barely acceptable.

 

[LunatiqueRob]

If you need Lumia, buy that one instead. I think N3 is fine, better than my old S3 at least. Would probably appreciate those features, but not such a big deal.

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I'm getting the Note 3 mainly for the Wacom-technology for the stylus, as I can use the phone as a mini Cintiq.

I posted that link about image-stabilization because even before Note 3 was officially announced, there were already articles saying that it was supposed to have the new image-stablization feature, but they couldn't get the manufacturing details finalized in time for Note 3, so the feature got pushed back into the next generation.

 

[kilofoxtrot]

But if you could have better features in your smartphone's camera, it's not a negative in any way, right? Let's assume that for some reason, you couldn't use your RX100 II--maybe you accidentally dropped it in the ocean while riding on a boat, or it got stolen while on vacation, and the phone is all you had on you, and you see so many interesting things that day that you'd want to shoot (maybe it's happening right in front of you, and you can't just run to the nearest store to buy another dedicated camera). If your phone was very capable as a camera, wouldn't it make things better for you in that situation?

The best camera is the camera you have with you.... thats why I carry the little Sony with me.

What would I do if I lost my Sony AND my N3.... then what? A back up for my back up???

Seriously.... I understand the point you are making... however, what's done is done. The N3 camera is what it is.

 

[titaniumSS]

We're a few years off from having technology like the RX100 inside a smartphone. OIS isn't going to give the phone the sensor the size of the RX100 or any DSLR. I'm completely satisfied with the setup inside the Note 3. Anything more and I would reach for a DSLR, mirrorless, or RX100. Simple as that.

Edit: the closest is probably the Lumia but megapixels don't equal a great picture, but hey, something has to convince consumers that don't know any better.

 

[LunatiqueRob]

The best camera is the camera you have with you.... thats why I carry the little Sony with me.

What would I do if I lost my Sony AND my N3.... then what? A back up for my back up???

Seriously.... I understand the point you are making... however, what's done is done. The N3 camera is what it is.

Haha, a backup for your backup. That made me laugh.

I guess I just dislike the feeling of "just missing" a feature by a generation, and then have to make the hard choice a year later if I'm willing to go through the upgrade mill again just to get that feature (but of course there will be other new features/improvements to entice me by then).

We're a few years off from having technology like the RX100 inside a smartphone. OIS isn't going to give the phone the sensor the size of the RX100 or any DSLR. I'm completely satisfied with the setup inside the Note 3. Anything more and I would reach for a DSLR, mirrorless, or RX100. Simple as that.

Edit: the closest is probably the Lumia but megapixels don't equal a great picture, but hey, something has to convince consumers that don't know any better.

Yeah, the megapixel war is about as dumb as the loudness war in music production. The music industry finally did something about it and those dark days are almost over, and maybe sometime in the near future, the camera industry will do the same.

I spent years lugging around a pro DSLR body and assorted lenses on trips with me, to the point that it became a chore. I eventually put my foot down and said, "No more." I started to just carry a compact camera and I've been happier since. Now, if I can carry just a smartphone with a capable camera, even the compact camera could be left at home.

 

[titaniumSS]

Haha, a backup for your backup. That made me laugh.

I guess I just dislike the feeling of "just missing" a feature by a generation, and then have to make the hard choice a year later if I'm willing to go through the upgrade mill again just to get that feature (but of course there will be other new features/improvements to entice me by then).



Yeah, the megapixel war is about as dumb as the loudness war in music production. The music industry finally did something about it and those dark days are almost over, and maybe sometime in the near future, the camera industry will do the same.

I spent years lugging around a pro DSLR body and assorted lenses on trips with me, to the point that it became a chore. I eventually put my foot down and said, "No more." I started to just carry a compact camera and I've been happier since. Now, if I can carry just a smartphone with a capable camera, even the compact camera could be left at home.

It will be nice when that day comes. My reference point is the Samsung NX cameras. Running full Android and with a pretty decent sensor as well as zoom. They are almost as big as your DSLR body. It'll be nice to see that day come within the next 5-7 years though!