This is why I think the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

[TabGuy]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

Did you even read his list? There are downsides to implementing it. He just listed them.

I don't know who the "he" is. My post didn't have any one particular person in mind.

And another who misses the point of this forum.

Then why are you in here questioning them? The whole point of being here is freely voicing and discussing opinions, just as you are doing right now. You simply dismiss their criticisms by reiterating the obvious. Of course everybody has the choice to buy whatever they want. If you have no substantive response to their opinions then don't respond at all.

First, let me make one thing clear: I'm in no way questioning their right to say what they want. I was just asking what motivates such people.

Why do I come here, do you ask? I'm in the market for a new phone and am looking for information about the S4 as a part of my decision process.

You ask, "If you have no substantive response to their opinions then don't respond at all." which is, of course, a non-substansive response. I don't know how to respond to that except to say touche'.

 

[Serial Fordicator]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

I don't really care what others choose, I only care about facts to help me choose. In fact, on my Galaxy Nexus I chose the AOKP rom over AOSP simply because it was NOT stock and it's filled with features. I don't care what the guy sitting next to me is doing and I probably won't show him my phone. Often I sit in a room full of iPhone people and they really don't care about features or they wouldn't have chosen an iPhone to begin with. Bragging about my phone only pi$$es them off and what's the point of that?

I agree. People just get a lot of heat for liking stock samsung or htc or motorola is all I mean. If people like there flip phone, it doesn't bother me in the least.

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[LegalAmerican]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

Did you even read his list? There are downsides to implementing it. He just listed them.



And another who misses the point of this forum.

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Obviously i'm confusing you. My point is this.......his list of downsides were downsides to USING the SD cards, when you wish to store massive amounts of music, photos, etc or very sensitive information. Which is legit, but I don't do either of those things. There may be other little aspects of his list that do apply to me, but i'm not overly concerned with it because the stuff I store on them can be easily replaced if they become corrupt, stolen, or whatever. But it isn't the answer to my question. I don't worry about the downsides he listed, because I would use it to store about 8 GB of music on my phone, and it isn't a problem for me to do so with an SD card, but I don't want that music taking up the internal memory.

So again, I will revisit my question to try to help you make sense of a very difficult concept.....If you don't want to use it because of those downsides he listed, don't use it. But just because it's there, doesn't mean the phone is less of a phone than another that doesn't have the slot. It's there for people like me who uses it, and you can ignore it if you don't use it. Therefore, the "downsides" are only downsides if someone has a gun to your head forcing you to use it. Otherwise, it doesn't affect you negatively. Please try to understand my point if you want to try and make me look/feel stupid. Clearly we look at it differently, so move on. It doesn't matter. I wont force you to have options and choices when they clearly offend you and are insulting to the core.

 

[Love Divine]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

Obviously i'm confusing you. My point is this.......his list of downsides were downsides to USING the SD cards, when you wish to store massive amounts of music, photos, etc or very sensitive information. Which is legit, but I don't do either of those things. There may be other little aspects of his list that do apply to me, but i'm not overly concerned with it because the stuff I store on them can be easily replaced if they become corrupt, stolen, or whatever. But it isn't the answer to my question. I don't worry about the downsides he listed, because I would use it to store about 8 GB of music on my phone, and it isn't a problem for me to do so with an SD card, but I don't want that music taking up the internal memory.

So again, I will revisit my question to try to help you make sense of a very difficult concept.....If you don't want to use it because of those downsides he listed, don't use it. But just because it's there, doesn't mean the phone is less of a phone than another that doesn't have the slot. It's there for people like me who uses it, and you can ignore it if you don't use it. Therefore, the "downsides" are only downsides if someone has a gun to your head forcing you to use it. Otherwise, it doesn't affect you negatively. Please try to understand my point if you want to try and make me look/feel stupid. Clearly we look at it differently, so move on. It doesn't matter. I wont force you to have options and choices when they clearly offend you and are insulting to the core.

lol

I'm not insulting or trying to offend you, nor am I upset or insulted. But you appear to be upset. I'm just pointing out what's right there in his post. There are downsides to even including an SD card slot. Jerry's post, which you quoted, points that out. Seriously, just Google it if you want more info.

 

[bp3dots]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

You're right. Companies build for the masses. Except HTC. I would venture to say that more people use SD cards than cloud storage. I don't have any data to back that up, but cloud storage is still in the early adoption phase of it's existence as companies just now are tapping into it. SD cards have been around so long, that they are in more homes. When it comes to technology, the majority of people generally are not early adopters. With an SD card, you can stil use cloud storage. Without an SD card slot, you can ONLY use cloud storage. I went with Android because I want options. I don't want Apple (HTC) telling me what I do or do not need.

The reason I say HTC doesn't build for the masses, is because they choose a material that feels good and provides false security, but it causes production issues so they can't meet demand. Samsung might go with polycarbonate that feels cheaper, but the product is still solid and they can "build for the masses" by providing devices for the high demand that they ALWAYS have. Your last sentence could easily describe both of us. Let's keep that in mind.

1 - Without an SD slot you can still use internal memory. Big internal memory is a much better solution to storage needs. Then you stil have cloud available. (Again, it may not work for every single person, but it will work for the vast majority.)

2 - LOL What? you think HTC designed that phone from the ground up expecting to not be able to keep it in supply? (I really hope I'm reading that wrong, but it's what you seem to be saying)

Cloud is all well and fine, if you have unlimited data. I love my SD cards.

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Cloud is all well and fine as long as the data plan the person using it has is robust enough. You'd be amazed how many people cry for unlimited, and their monthly useage is <2 Gigs. But I think the bigger point hasn't been cloud storage, but including bigger internal memory. I'd much rather see that (and it seems to be the way things are going) as it solves the problem without requiring data/signal participation.

 

[Serial Fordicator]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

1 - Without an SD slot you can still use internal memory. Big internal memory is a much better solution to storage needs. Then you stil have cloud available. (Again, it may not work for every single person, but it will work for the vast majority.)

2 - LOL What? you think HTC designed that phone from the ground up expecting to not be able to keep it in supply? (I really hope I'm reading that wrong, but it's what you seem to be saying)



Cloud is all well and fine as long as the data plan the person using it has is robust enough. You'd be amazed how many people cry for unlimited, and their monthly useage is <2 Gigs. But I think the bigger point hasn't been cloud storage, but including bigger internal memory. I'd much rather see that (and it seems to be the way things are going) as it solves the problem without requiring data/signal participation.

Carriers like VZW don't want bigger storage. They like the cloud and having overages. I've got unlimited and use anywhere from 10-30 GB a month. I still like having 32 GB in the phone + 64 GB on my card. I'm not saying my situation suits everyone else, but no one else's suits mine.

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[goelz83]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

I come to these forums for advice. It makes it hard to find out about a phone with all the noise in here. Then, once I find real information, it's hard to determine if it's fact or fiction.

I'm thinking about replacing my Galaxy Nexus. I come here for information. My phone requirements are pretty simple and minimalistic, really. 1) Must be Verizon. Don't tell me how bad Verizon is or judge me for that choice, it's Verizon and that's not negotiable. 2) Android OS. 3) Replaceable battery. That's not negotiable, with wifi tethering I can burn through a battery in about 3 hours. I don't care much about aesthetics. I can see from this thread that the One won't work for based on one or two of my minimalistic requirements. I think I've narrowed my choice to S4 or Note 2. Gonna have to wait and see.

The Note II has a killer battery. I think it will be hard for the S4 to beat the battery life of the Note II (and you can keep a backup battery on hand if necessary). If the size isn't a problem and you eat through battery life like you say, my vote would be for the Note II. (And this is coming from the owner of an S3, soon to be an S4. I just don't like the size of the Note II as much as I do the Galaxy S series

 

[bp3dots]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

Carriers like VZW don't want bigger storage. They like the cloud and having overages. I've got unlimited and use anywhere from 10-30 GB a month. I still like having 32 GB in the phone + 64 GB on my card. I'm not saying my situation suits everyone else, but no one else's suits mine.

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In my exerience dealing with carriers, they actually would prefer you buying more per month than you use. Overages cause complaints and churn. Spending and never using is means more money for them, no complaints, and plenty of bandwith for their users.

However, for purposes of this thread, my comments on storage refer only to end users and manufacturers.

 

[Serial Fordicator]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

In my exerience dealing with carriers, they actually would prefer you buying more per month than you use. Overages cause complaints and churn. Spending and never using is means more money for them, no complaints, and plenty of bandwith for their users.

However, for purposes of this thread, my comments on storage refer only to end users and manufacturers.

It bothers the people who deals with the actual customers making the hourly wage (which they would get if it was unlimited). The complaining doesn't bother the ones that profit the extra money for it.

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[bp3dots]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

It bothers the people who deals with the actual customers making the hourly wage (which they would get if it was unlimited). The complaining doesn't bother the ones that profit the extra money for it.

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My statement was based on talking with all customer facing carrier employees. (Line level, large account reps, and retail higher ups)

But again, this issue is speculation.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

Obviously i'm confusing you. My point is this.......his list of downsides were downsides to USING the SD cards, when you wish to store massive amounts of music, photos, etc or very sensitive information. Which is legit, but I don't do either of those things. There may be other little aspects of his list that do apply to me, but i'm not overly concerned with it because the stuff I store on them can be easily replaced if they become corrupt, stolen, or whatever. But it isn't the answer to my question. I don't worry about the downsides he listed, because I would use it to store about 8 GB of music on my phone, and it isn't a problem for me to do so with an SD card, but I don't want that music taking up the internal memory.

So again, I will revisit my question to try to help you make sense of a very difficult concept.....If you don't want to use it because of those downsides he listed, don't use it. But just because it's there, doesn't mean the phone is less of a phone than another that doesn't have the slot. It's there for people like me who uses it, and you can ignore it if you don't use it. Therefore, the "downsides" are only downsides if someone has a gun to your head forcing you to use it. Otherwise, it doesn't affect you negatively. Please try to understand my point if you want to try and make me look/feel stupid. Clearly we look at it differently, so move on. It doesn't matter. I wont force you to have options and choices when they clearly offend you and are insulting to the core.

So if I don't use the SD card slot can I also completely remove all the code and support Samsung had to add to the OS to make it work so that I can more easily get updates? Or, more importantly to some, build a pure AOSP rom for it, which won't have support for the SD card?

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[Jerry Hildenbrand]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

I don't really care what others choose, I only care about facts to help me choose.

I like this guy.

 

[epicness4G]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

S4 faster benchmarks than HTC one.
Uh oh let the bashing comments begin.

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[croppz]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

S4 faster benchmarks than HTC one.
Uh oh let the bashing comments begin.

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Benchmarks dont mean anything for realworld use. Your point is invalid.

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[Jaimeg123prmt]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

S4 faster benchmarks than HTC one.
Uh oh let the bashing comments begin.

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at this point, does it really matter? Phones are so fast now that it is hardly noticeable.

 

[epicness4G]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

Benchmarks dont mean anything for realworld use. Your point is invalid.

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So what you're saying is that if the HTC one beat the s4 in benchmarks no one would bring it out? I see your point.

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[Irvgotti]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

So what you're saying is that if the HTC one beat the s4 in benchmarks no one would bring it out? I see your point.

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Both statements would still be made..

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[epicness4G]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

Both statements would still be made..

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There's no point in arguing about something that is a proven fact though. He is using an HTC device I'm using a note 2. I'm not a Samsung fan boy as I own a blackberry z10 an iphone 5 and an HTC one X plus. But of course the "excuse" comes from an HTC user.

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[I Can Be Your Hero]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

S4 faster benchmarks than HTC one.
Uh oh let the bashing comments begin.

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Benchmarks are one thing, real-world performance is another.

Samsung Galaxy S4 hands-on - YouTube

Have a look from 0:50 swiping through screens. Looks pretty laggy to me.

Might be pre-release hardware/software, but that's not very comforting to watch. Especially when it's supposed to be on the super-duper powerhouse Exynos 5 octa.

And if the video isn't enough, some impressions from Gizmodo: Samsung Galaxy S IV Hands On: Everything New Is Old Again | Gizmodo Australia

"I had the HTC One with me during my hands on time, and the difference is like night and day. For starters, the One is noticeably faster in every context. When flicking between screens, opening apps and taking photos, there was clear lag on the Galaxy S IV, whereas everything was almost instantaneous on the One."

My only guesses are either that the software/hardware isn't optimised properly and the final product will have lag issues sorted out, or that Samsung have bloated TouchWiz so much that it just doesn't perform well.

InB4Gizmodoisbiasedaccusations

 

[croppz]

Re: This is why the Galaxy S4 is better than the HTC One

Benchmarks are one thing, real-world performance is another.

Samsung Galaxy S4 hands-on - YouTube

Have a look from 0:50 swiping through screens. Looks pretty laggy to me.

Might be pre-release hardware/software, but that's not very comforting to watch. Especially when it's supposed to be on the super-duper powerhouse Exynos 5 octa.

And if the video isn't enough, some impressions from Gizmodo: Samsung Galaxy S IV Hands On: Everything New Is Old Again | Gizmodo Australia

"I had the HTC One with me during my hands on time, and the difference is like night and day. For starters, the One is noticeably faster in every context. When flicking between screens, opening apps and taking photos, there was clear lag on the Galaxy S IV, whereas everything was almost instantaneous on the One."

InB4Gizmodoisbiasedaccusations

Gizmodo is exactly right about the One. I am running 4.1.2 and Sense 5 on my DNA and sense 5 is ridiculously smooth and quick. If you have used sense 4+ before, it is 100x better than that. HTC got that one right.

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