Actually, I am very old to Android and do seem to remember some law suit about spyware but didn't remember the name. But with the US gov't strapped for money I wouldn't doubt the NSA is selling there stolen data to everyone under the sun :-!
Those concerned about privacy. Yes you have spyware called Carrier IQ installed in your Note 5...
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Actually, I am very old to Android and do seem to remember some law suit about spyware but didn't remember the name. But with the US gov't strapped for money I wouldn't doubt the NSA is selling there stolen data to everyone under the sun :-!
Um....
You guys do know that pretty much every single modern government has an electronic communications monitoring service that works alongside their federal police and intelligence agencies that deploy tools that make carrier IQ look like amateur hour... right? If you think those governments are actually relying on CIQ then that's pretty laughable. That would be like the police approaching a shopping mall cop and saying "hey bud, we're really counting on you to come through for us in bringing down this mafia crime syndicate". Speaking of police, this kind of tech has proliferated so much now that even local municipal police departments have the ability to remotely snoop cell phones now. CIQ might've been a concern to me in 2011. Now they're redundant. They're like a private investigator staking out my house to see if I'm operating a home business without a license while I stand in front of my house holding a sign that says "I'm operating a home business without a license", taking selfies of that and emailing it to the authorities.
How is CIQ going to affect you in the real world? Collect your information for the government? No, they have superior tools already deployed for that. Collect your information for police? Ditto. Collect your info for advertisers? You've already been giving them that for years now via website cookies, data analytics, and numerous other tools. Your ISP? Whether they do it in-house or contract it to CIQ the end result is the same.
A more accurate title for this thread would be:
"Those concerned about privacy. Yes you gave that up already to the point that Carrier IQ doesn't even put a dent in it"
You guys do know that pretty much every single modern government has an electronic communications monitoring service that works alongside their federal police and intelligence agencies that deploy tools that make carrier IQ look like amateur hour... right? If you think those governments are actually relying on CIQ then that's pretty laughable. That would be like the police approaching a shopping mall cop and saying "hey bud, we're really counting on you to come through for us in bringing down this mafia crime syndicate". Speaking of police, this kind of tech has proliferated so much now that even local municipal police departments have the ability to remotely snoop cell phones now. CIQ might've been a concern to me in 2011. Now they're redundant. They're like a private investigator staking out my house to see if I'm operating a home business without a license while I stand in front of my house holding a sign that says "I'm operating a home business without a license", taking selfies of that and emailing it to the authorities.
How is CIQ going to affect you in the real world? Collect your information for the government? No, they have superior tools already deployed for that. Collect your information for police? Ditto. Collect your info for advertisers? You've already been giving them that for years now via website cookies, data analytics, and numerous other tools. Your ISP? Whether they do it in-house or contract it to CIQ the end result is the same.
A more accurate title for this thread would be:
"Those concerned about privacy. Yes you gave that up already to the point that Carrier IQ doesn't even put a dent in it"
Yes! Absolutely! But if folks didn't have "security" to talk about the only rants here would be about "battery life" :-!
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Yes! Absolutely! But if folks didn't have "security" to talk about the only rants here would be about "battery life" :-!
Hi all,
You can look at it any way you want but at the end of the day there is NO WAY I'm giving up my personal phones information to a third party vendor who then relays this information to AT&T. Whether I show up as a line of 1's and 0's or my physical IMEI and cell number show up....NO WAY they are getting info from me. And to top it off they hide it in the phone so the average Joe can't find it then make it so we can't delete or disable it.
If the US Government wants my info they know how to reach me, I pay taxes...and a LOT of them. But third party Silicon Valley data analytics....NO THANKS
Carrier IQ: What it is, what it isn't, and what you need to know
I couldn't careless to be honest. I will say, this is a prime example of why I don't use any 'phone pay' features. Like Samsung Pay or Apple Pay, etc.
As for data, I couldn't careless who reads my stuff...
As for data, I couldn't careless who reads my stuff...
Couldn't care less is correct.
Meaning you do not care at all, so it's not possible to care less than not at all.
Could care less means that you could care less, implying that you currently care.
Im done with all that stuff. Privacy means just that. When your privacy has been invaded before, it won't be tolerated again. Note 5 will be sold. iPhone 6s Plus in use.
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Your privacy is invaded when you use any phone, get in the internet at all.
Edward Snowden showed those that didn't realize, how much we are all tracked. Those that didn't know after Edward Snowden, should know now. Apple also participates in PRISM. This spying isn't new in the USA. NSA has been around since Pearl Harbor and has been spying on the American public since then, we know this, that isn't a question. This all came out during Watergate and the Church Committee Hearings.
Other countries have been saying even longer and even more. It doesn't matter who your phone carrier is, who the phone is made by, doesn't matter if the company itself collects the data or they use a third party app.
You don't have privacy and changing phones will not change that.
Oh and if your government isn't doing the spying, they are having the USA or UK spy on their citizens for them.
"If there’s one striking thing about those*PRISM*slides, other than their hideous aesthetics, it’s that Apple’s allocated yellow oval, instead of a date, has the words “(added Oct 2012)” underneath it. That difference is most striking when you consider the fact that Apple competitor Microsoft cooperated with the government a full five years earlier.
The company, which*denies*ever having heard of PRISM, released its FISA request numbers today, starting on December 1st, 2012, through this May 2013. Though it’s plausible that the government would not have disclosed the name of the program, the*NYT*confirmed*Apple’s participation in a government surveillance network designed to make data collection more efficient for the NSA — whatever that entails, like “a broad sweep for intelligence, like logs of certain search terms.”
http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/17/apple-nsa/
Who said I was talking directly about a phone and invasion. Hmmmm
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Because that is what this entire thread is about and you said the iPhone will be used and the Note 5 will be sold and privacy invasion won't be tolerated again.
So if you aren't talking about a phone and invasion of privacy, then why would you be switching phones?
"All that" was Apple's admission of lying about not gathering info on users and turning it over to governments.
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