thoughts on the V20?

[Aquila]

Most humans cannot tell whether a display is objectively well calibrated or not. They can't even do it when looking right at the device next to another device that they know is or is not well calibrated. They can guess which one they think is better, but even then they can't describe WHY it is better or worse. And then they don't know if what they perceive as better or worse is actually measurably better or worse. And that's looking right at the display.

In this video, we're looking at the display through a different display with its own calibration (have you checked your monitors against industry stanards?) on video of unknown quality filmed with a device that has a lens and software that changes the images, including the color.

There could be no worse way to guess the quality other than just throwing a dart at 17 dart boards and hoping you hit the actual values of the saturation and color levels on each respective board. Even if you're a world champion dart player, you don't even know what exactly it is that you're aiming for.

 

[Aquila]

Not really an inspiring design. I think the V10 looks much better. I really miss the rubberized back!!! That phone would never slip out of my hand.

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Reminds me of a Johnny Five.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Maybe you can't. I can. The display clearly lacks brightness and contrast, like previous LG devices.

Here's the thing.

You can't. There are too many other factors involved to see that in a video. You can keep repeating yourself, but the video you watched has been processed multiple times by different algorithms before getting to your eyes.

The G5 display lacked many things, but one of them was not contrast.

 

[bhatech]

Looks great, only disappointment is the 3200 mAh battery but if they include a free battery with a charging cradle then it's all good to go.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

heres a drop test of the phone. I
m not liking that the back pops off so easily


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or7rwO7wuSU

The back popping off is absorbing some of the impact though.

 

[joeynox]

the noise the cover makes bothers me. This is such a DOA phone. With the iphone launching this month the v20 is doomed. Theres no reason for anyone really to upgrade to this phone. Theres no killer feature .

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

So, is it a mistake to not sell it in Europe?

Samsung thought so when they did the same with the Note5, and even apologized to European fans.

 

[AllenRulz]

Being able to replace the battery in a few years if the phone acts up is definitely a plus up compared the the Pixel XL that I'm also looking at.

But one thing I'm very nervous about after reading about it is this whole "Bootloop" problem. I know other people said it was because the motherboards and 808 chip but I can't find real answers about this and if it's fixed besides being fixed in the G4. Problem still lies in some G5 and V10.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

the noise the cover makes bothers me. This is such a DOA phone. With the iphone launching this month the v20 is doomed. Theres no reason for anyone really to upgrade to this phone. Theres no killer feature .

Audio. Both recording and playback.

 

[Mike Dee]

The back popping off is absorbing some of the impact though.

Most are going to case it anyway

 

[Aquila]

the noise the cover makes bothers me. This is such a DOA phone. With the iphone launching this month the v20 is doomed. Theres no reason for anyone really to upgrade to this phone. Theres no killer feature .

Audiophiles will have a good reason for getting it, so will the entire "removable battery or bust" crowd, as this is the one phone this year worth buying that has a user replaceable battery. So will those who like a good all around experience and the latest software. It might just be me, but I seriously don't see very much overlap in the customers looking at LG V20 vs iPhone 7. Maybe something akin to this:

 

[Mike Dee]

Reminds me of a Johnny Five.

That's what they said about the G5

 

[Adam Frix]

No offense at all, but this is why we test displays with measurements because almost 100% of people are wrong about what they think they're seeing.

...from a recording made on an unknown device in an unknown state, and presented on an unknown monitor in an unknown state.

 

[Mike Dee]

Not really an inspiring design. I think the V10 looks much better. I really miss the rubberized back!!! That phone would never slip out of my hand.

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What's up with the vertical line above the camera?

 

[Aquila]

Looks great, only disappointment is the 3200 mAh battery but if they include a free battery with a charging cradle then it's all good to go.

3200 mAh is still a pretty huge battery; the thing that matters is the battery life though. Is Nougat's + giant battery enough to power this thing all day? Good question.

 

[paul87russell]

just an upgraded and better designed g5 for me

 

[Aquila]

That's what they said about the G5

That one looked more like Bender...

 

[Aquila]

just an upgraded and better designed g5 for me

This ^^ and this by a lot.

Fixes the lack of audio on the G5.
Increases the screen size.
Increases the battery size.
Gets rid of the modules (sorry if you liked them).
Is more sturdy.
Looks like a better robot (Johnny 5 is cooler than Bender).
Better software.
Better camera.

This is what I was really hoping to see from the G5 this year and I'm glad they did it.

 

[Mooncatt]

Let's just stick one of these into a phone and put the small battery complaints to bed... Until the next generation of phones come out. Lol

 

[Mooserman15]

Re: Looks like a great device

The OnePlus 3 is a better phone (except for the camera). And it is much cheaper.