Verizon catching on to tethering apps?

[moosc]

Really u don't thank so. U can run but u can't hide from vzw they can and will know that your Tethering not matter what app u use. This has been coming down the pipe all summer and every one just blew it off like yea come on. It's here and data at the moment is gold and VZW wants you to pay your share.

 

[fatboy97]

I will believe it when and IF it actually happens... but just having some Blog report this is happening is not going to effect me one bit. I don't use my wireless hotspot, unless it was an emergency... and even if I did I still more than likely would not be over 1G for the entire month.

 

[wildman]

This just shows how users see everything, if it doesn't come knocking on their door now its nothing to concern yourself with but if Verizon starts charging everyone without saying anything these same users will start yelling rape..

 

[Grimsin]

With comcast offering $10 internet packages to the poor and wifi so accessible all over these days. They would only screw themselves to attempt to charge anymore then they are or limit us anymore then they have. As i told them when i got the TB... if i were to lose my wifi and unlimited data i just wouldn't deal with verizon at all and would focus my time and money on other mobile internet services. They did not like the sound of that. I have it in writing that i will always have unlimited data and free tethering from VZW. BTW, other company's have made attempts at securing services before and it only causes the hackers to hack even more sooo... really this is a losing battle for vzw and all cell providers for that mater. They can chase all they want... were not running or hiding... Also they may be able to figure out what you have been using but what it takes to do that is ridiculous and they are not going to pay their techs for the man hours to do so. The towers receive data packets that are embedded that in order to get such specific user information as what app you are using would require dissection of the data packets which would take days and thats after they went through the trouble of untangling your transmissions from everyone else. Sure they could build software and push updates that monitor for certain apps but its not like a few hours later the apps wont be modified to no longer register with the code written to pick them up.

Like i said... VZW told me directly they are not really worried about the 5% of users who have unlimited plans and use more then 2gigs a month. So i'll believe this whole crackdown nonsense when i see it. Either way it wont effect me... Also i should mention that the direct cable tether does not cost anything as it is and it would appear the hoopla is purely over the wifi hot spotting. Well heres a means of getting around it, granted not efficient for most but would be easy for me. Plug the phone in with the cable start the direct cable tether then setup a wifi card or router on the computer to push the signal through and viola you have a wifi hot spot utilizing your phone network.

And even though im not paying for it im crying rape for the rest of you on that 30 a month for wifi hot spotting. thats just bogus bs. 100 or so for most of our phone plans, 30 for unlimited data if your one of the lucky g-fathered in types and 30 more for wifi tethering. Just think about it... thats 160 bux. If they keep it up no one will use those features and everyone will move to other methods of mobile net that are already much cheaper on a monthly basis. Its a self-destructive path to walk and VZW knows it which is why im sure they will only take it so far. So many have said they already dont use the wifi hot spotting or more then x-amount of data in a month, why are they going to spend lots of time and money on such a small issue?

Im with fatboy. Ill believe it when i see it. When i see it ill simply fix it

 

[kelton]

When I get on the net, it is important, but it is also very limited in terms of data.

Like, I'll need to use the computer to email a Word document or download one....edit it... and send it off.

So we're talking maybe 50 to 100 megabytes a month if I'm busy!

I'd be terrifically pleased if Verizon would charge $5 extra per month for that privilege. Really, though, they should leave people like me alone and go after those leeches who pull over 1 gig in a month without paying.

Thirty bucks is out of hand for light users like me.

 

[wildman]

When I get on the net, it is important, but it is also very limited in terms of data.

Like, I'll need to use the computer to email a Word document or download one....edit it... and send it off.

So we're talking maybe 50 to 100 megabytes a month if I'm busy!

I'd be terrifically pleased if Verizon would charge $5 extra per month for that privilege. Really, though, they should leave people like me alone and go after those leeches who pull over 1 gig in a month without paying.

Thirty bucks is out of hand for light users like me.

I agree that light users isn't the issues but there is a number of users that brag about doing 50 and more gigs in a month and its users like this that really effect the networks prices..Instead of using it occasionally they want to replace their home internet and play online games using their device, there should be a point that users should acknowledge they are doing to much..

 

[moosc]

They can also leave say million or so other users alone that barely to use tethering. Id rather vzw not show favoritism to one group or other.

When I get on the net, it is important, but it is also very limited in terms of data.

Like, I'll need to use the computer to email a Word document or download one....edit it... and send it off.

So we're talking maybe 50 to 100 megabytes a month if I'm busy!

I'd be terrifically pleased if Verizon would charge $5 extra per month for that privilege. Really, though, they should leave people like me alone and go after those leeches who pull over 1 gig in a month without paying.

Thirty bucks is out of hand for light users like me.

Sent from Tapatalk using Droid BionicX!

 

[normio2]

For anyone wondering how they can tell if you are tethering its actually pretty simple. Every device has a unique mac address. Then your phone also has a unique IP address. If they see more than one mac address coming through your IP address without being authorized they block it. Large enterprise wifi systems have been doing this for years so that users don't share out their internet connection. It's actually very simple. I didn't read the whole thread so if someone mentioned this already I apologize.

 

[bplewis24]

That's good to know, but the reality is that they aren't currently doing that...otherwise none of us would be able to tether.

The reality is it takes time, money and labor to track/filter those things and it's obviously not worth it to the company (yet) to do that.

 

[normio2]

That's good to know, but the reality is that they aren't currently doing that...otherwise none of us would be able to tether.

The reality is it takes time, money and labor to track/filter those things and it's obviously not worth it to the company (yet) to do that.

Except they have been testing it for months now internally, and an internal notice was sent out that it will definitely be coming down the pipe soon.

 

[bplewis24]

Okay, well I'll have to take your word for it on that one. Has nobody leaked this internal notice?

Brandon

 

[wildman]

Except they have been testing it for months now internally, and an internal notice was sent out that it will definitely be coming down the pipe soon.

You do realize no matter what you say if the user decided that they don't want to hear anything different than what the want to hear they wont listen.

 

[normio2]

Okay, well I'll have to take your word for it on that one. Has nobody leaked this internal notice?

Brandon

Not sure, it may have only been a management type of thing. Most of these leaked notices that you see out there are coming from the lower end of the totem pole. Sales guys, store managers, they can take minimal risk to leak those things because when they get them, it has already gone out to literally thousands of employees. Where as something like this may only have gone corporate, or higher management personnel. Who knows though why some things get leaked and others don't.

You do realize no matter what you say if the user decided that they don't want to hear anything different than what the want to hear they wont listen.

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[Effenhimer]

I agree that light users isn't the issues but there is a number of users that brag about doing 50 and more gigs in a month and its users like this that really effect the networks prices..Instead of using it occasionally they want to replace their home internet and play online games using their device, there should be a point that users should acknowledge they are doing to much..

So really your issue is with those who use wifi tether right? Because I have my Mom, who lives out in an area that isn't allowed to have high speed internet, and her only option is dial up. But the land line phone service out there is so bad, she could never keep it connected anyway. So I got her to pick up a couple Samsung Fascinates for her and my step Dad, and showed her how to tether her phone to her pc using USB. Now, since VZW has such good service out there, she has 3G internet at her house, and uses more than 5+ gigs a month, on her unlimited plan.

I already pay $250 for my plan, 3 lines, all unlimited data, insurance, etc, I'm NEVER paying more than another $5, if that, for a service that should already be a part of the phone, (and in ALL cases of root users, does).
$30 per line IS virtual rape. :-$

 

[Effenhimer]

And yes, it is just a ToS violation, not against the law... Being that this is a part of the forums for "root" users, we are already in breach of this. So we should actually be back to the old articles talking about "VZW cracking down on root users"... Propaganda.

And even paying $30 for "unlimited wifi tether" don't you only actually get 5gb worth to use? Unless they changed it in the last month or so, that's the actual "unlimited" wifi tether plan...

 

[wildman]

So really your issue is with those who use wifi tether right? Because I have my Mom, who lives out in an area that isn't allowed to have high speed internet, and her only option is dial up. But the land line phone service out there is so bad, she could never keep it connected anyway. So I got her to pick up a couple Samsung Fascinates for her and my step Dad, and showed her how to tether her phone to her pc using USB. Now, since VZW has such good service out there, she has 3G internet at her house, and uses more than 5+ gigs a month, on her unlimited plan.

I already pay $250 for my plan, 3 lines, all unlimited data, insurance, etc, I'm NEVER paying more than another $5, if that, for a service that should already be a part of the phone, (and in ALL cases of root users, does).
$30 per line IS virtual rape. :-$

I do not have a issue with users using wifi tethering, I have issues with the users that abuse the option to the point that it affects other and make reasons on why this isn't wrong. And they get worked up when someone points out that what they are doing is wrong.

And as for the price that you pay on 3 lines I would like to see what you would pay to have access to a phone, internet and a mobile router for 3 houses, 250.00 is a far amount for the level and number of lines and services that you have, and to then add access to the web anywhere you choose is a quality service to offer and understandable that it wouldn't come free.

I try to look at the situation on how it will affect both parties where you only look at how it benefits you.

I would love to see if the shoe was on the other foot and you was supplying the services and you had customers using your services for free that you still have to continue to pay large amounts of money to maintain the service, I guarantee you wouldn't see the situation the same way..


This is no different with anything the developers can spend weeks developing a new app or rom and it has a small bug, and instead of users show appreciation they choose to demand that the developer fix the bug and they come across as if they are owed this... I have nothing but respect for the developers because I am amazed of how they show restraint with users demanding for something that they got free.

Some have no level of respect.. No matter how much is give it is never enough with some.

 

[dchawk81]

Honestly, DSL/low end cable can be had for $30. I'd get that again before I'd pay to tether my phone. It's not like I can use my phone as a phone when it's connected to the net (CDMA limitation), it needs to be plugged in, and it gets hot so it has to sit on a cooling fan.

 

[wildman]

Honestly, DSL/low end cable can be had for $30. I'd get that again before I'd pay to tether my phone. It's not like I can use my phone as a phone when it's connected to the net (CDMA limitation), it needs to be plugged in, and it gets hot so it has to sit on a cooling fan.

I do it all the time, I can use Mobile Hotspot with a couple of laptops, hold a conference call and research information on the web on the device..... And I have done this on 3G because in my area LTE isnt up and going yet. LTE devices removed those restrictions..

 

[Effenhimer]

I do not have a issue with users using wifi tethering, I have issues with the users that abuse the option to the point that it affects other and make reasons on why this isn't wrong. And they get worked up when someone points out that what they are doing is wrong.

And as for the price that you pay on 3 lines I would like to see what you would pay to have access to a phone, internet and a mobile router for 3 houses, 250.00 is a far amount for the level and number of lines and services that you have, and to then add access to the web anywhere you choose is a quality service to offer and understandable that it wouldn't come free.

I try to look at the situation on how it will affect both parties where you only look at how it benefits you.

So how exactly does other peoples free wifi tether use effect you? Or do you mean that's why they have YOU paying $30?... And 3 houses? No, all in one home, and actual price for what you are talking is around $160 for 3 land lines and internet service... I don't use wifi tether by the way, don't need it, but if I did, I'm not gonna pay more on top of my already outrageous service cost. (I don't mind paying it because my service is PERFECT, I know I'm paying for the high quality...)

 

[android06]

i wanna sign up for the $30 unlimited hotspot, but my tbolt is rooted and my tethering data always shows up as regular phone data. is there a way to change this? without unrooting of course.