Verizon Note Edge Thread

[laspahr]

Re: Lollipop Upgrade: Definitive answer

I'm not feeling the lollipop love for the Note Edge based on what I've been reading thus I've been reluctant to update.
I'm temped to keep denying the update until 5.1 comes out for (Most likely Christmas for us folks).
The funny thing is I'm one of the ones that don't like the camera buttons on the edge (like with kit kat) so that's one change I'd enjoy.
Other than that I'm actually enjoying the edge the way it is. Can't afford to lose battery life though as I rarely make it through a day without recharging or changing batteries.

Also if a factory reset after taking the update solves all the issues mentioned (especially shortened battery life) I'd have no problem updating, but I can't seem to find a definitive answer.

So basically I'd like to know...

Is the Lollipop upgrade worth it to you?
And if so why or why not?
Also would you go back to Kit Kat if you could?

Thanks

I think it's worth it, as besides the longer boot times (since ART) it seems better/faster liking the (few) new animations and after factory resetting (which isnt necessary for all) it runs flawlessly I wouldn't go back to KK unless it promised root that doesn't trip Knox (which I don't think is possible)

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[stronggeek]

Re: Lollipop Upgrade: Definitive answer

I think it's worth it, as besides the longer boot times (since ART) it seems better/faster liking the (few) new animations and after factory resetting (which isnt necessary for all) it runs flawlessly I wouldn't go back to KK unless it promised root that doesn't trip Knox (which I don't think is possible)

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Thanks for your response laspahr.
That really doesn't sound too bad.
But has your battery life suffered this the update?

Thanks again!

 

[laspahr]

Re: Lollipop Upgrade: Definitive answer

Thanks for your response laspahr.
That really doesn't sound too bad.
But has your battery life suffered this the update?

Thanks again!

I can't give you an "accurate" answer, as I've been out and about getting back from vacation and such, but battery life seems to be pretty good from what I've seen (after factory resetting due to some reboot issues). Not sure it's "better" than KK but I'm pretty happy with it. I've been streaming music almost all the time with being in the car

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[stronggeek]

Re: Lollipop Upgrade: Definitive answer

I can't give you an "accurate" answer, as I've been out and about getting back from vacation and such, but battery life seems to be pretty good from what I've seen (after factory resetting due to some reboot issues). Not sure it's "better" than KK but I'm pretty happy with it. I've been streaming music almost all the time with being in the car

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Right on! Sounds worthy of consideration once again.
And once again I thank you for sharing your experience.
I also hope you enjoyed your vacation!

 

[laspahr]

Re: Lollipop Upgrade: Definitive answer

Right on! Sounds worthy of consideration once again.
And once again I thank you for sharing your experience.
I also hope you enjoyed your vacation!

No problem, mostly working on recalibrating and priming my battery (drain to ~10% or less then charge to 100%) a couple times which has thrown it off a bit but overall nice update (wish I would've stuck with the note 4 proper though)

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[SHIVA77]

Re: Lollipop Upgrade: Definitive answer

I'm not feeling the lollipop love for the Note Edge based on what I've been reading thus I've been reluctant to update.
I'm temped to keep denying the update until 5.1 comes out for (Most likely Christmas for us folks).
The funny thing is I'm one of the ones that don't like the camera buttons on the edge (like with kit kat) so that's one change I'd enjoy.
Other than that I'm actually enjoying the edge the way it is. Can't afford to lose battery life though as I rarely make it through a day without recharging or changing batteries.

Also if a factory reset after taking the update solves all the issues mentioned (especially shortened battery life) I'd have no problem updating, but I can't seem to find a definitive answer.

So basically I'd like to know...

Is the Lollipop upgrade worth it to you?
And if so why or why not?
Also would you go back to Kit Kat if you could?

Thanks

No need not to get the (or resist the) 5.0.1 update. Honestly it's such a minor change on the Edge, that you forget you have it after about an hour of use. But one of my apps specially is running much better after update.

With good WiFi you should have a pretty solid update. In case you do have issues, then you need to do a factory reset, but if people had issues we would have had an avalanche of complaints which we haven't had. So, it's been a solid upgrade, as it normally is with VZW.

 

[Mr.Gadget]

I did the update and my phone was SO slow and so buggy. It would do all sorts of weird things, to the point that I was swearing I would get something different... but, I did a factory reset and cache wipe and it is running very well now and, yes, my battery life is better.
So, if you opt for the update, I would plan on a factory wipe. It's like the old days of Windows computing - every once in a while it is a good idea to factory wipe and start fresh. Glad I did.

 

[SHIVA77]

So, if you opt for the update, I would plan on a factory wipe. It's like the old days of Windows computing - every once in a while it is a good idea to factory wipe and start fresh. Glad I did.

No! No factory reset is needed on almost all phones. Don't assume your negative experience is common.

 

[P_Devil]

This update went about as smooth as it did for my S5... Which wasn't smooth at all. I upgraded and cleared the cache, I thought that would be enough. Battery life took a complete nosedive lasting only about 10 hours before needing to be plugged it (it was 100% at 5:00 AM and died at 3:00 PM with normal usage, my phone is normally at 70% by then). Then I experienced the Google Music All Access bug and it deleted all of my music on my SD card. I restarted my phone, charged it up to 100%, and then unplugged it. The battery drained by 20% just sitting there connected to my home wi-fi and Moto 360 (via Bluetooth). I received maybe two texts during that time and did nothing else.

So now I had to do a factory reset and it seems to be better though the battery still drains faster when I'm using it compared to Android 4.4.4. All-in-all, I thought Samsung/Verizon would treat the Note Edge different from the S5 but they really didn't. Seeing as how the next Note phone is likely going to have built-in storage only, I may jump ship back to Apple or at least look at a Nexus phone (if Google finally releases one with a 128GB capacity).

 

[laspahr]

No! No factory reset is needed on almost all phones. Don't assume your negative experience is common.

Every upgrade is different, so you don't have much more sense to say a reset isn't needed than we do to say it is. I figure it never hurts, especially with such a large upgrade. Up to the specific person and how their phone reacted to the update

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[rmwilk]

No! No factory reset is needed on almost all phones. Don't assume your negative experience is common.

Why so adamant about not resetting? Every experience is different. You didn't have to reset and that's a good thing. Just stop telling people that they do not need to. I've done major updates like this and not had to, but with this one I did. Going from the DALVIK cache to ART is a major undertaking. Some programs play nicely and some don't until they are re-installed. Easier to do a full reset and re-install all at once rather than experimenting trying to find the offending program.

 

[SHIVA77]

Why so adamant about not resetting? Every experience is different. You didn't have to reset and that's a good thing. Just stop telling people that they do not need to. I've done major updates like this and not had to, but with this one I did. Going from the DALVIK cache to ART is a major undertaking. Some programs play nicely and some don't until they are re-installed. Easier to do a full reset and re-install all at once rather than experimenting trying to find the offending program.

You guys are scaring the hell out of people, just because 4 out of tens of thousands had to do a factory reset for an upgrade that has gone very smoothly on mine and other phones. I have never had an issue with VZW firmware update.

The correct way to express what you trying to say is that, "you had a terrible time with the upgrade and had to do a factory reset, but your case maybe different." Rather than dictating a factory reset on all phones.

If there were issues with the upgrade, we would have had an avalanche of posts, which we don't have.

Factory reset is a major deal for a lot of people and if they read your poorly written words, they could freak out and assume that they MUST reset their phones.

 

[SHIVA77]

BTW: Rumor has it that Note 5 will go the way of S6 with glass back, meaning no battery removal and no SD card. Also Note 5, will have the same screen as ours.

Exclusive: More details about the Galaxy Note 5 and the Galaxy S6 edge Plus - SamMobile

 

[P_Devil]

You guys are scaring the hell out of people, just because 4 out of tens of thousands had to do a factory reset for an upgrade that has gone very smoothly on mine and other phones. I have never had an issue with VZW firmware update.

Your math is off, by a lot. That assumes that 4 people here on the forums are the only ones having issues and that there are tens of thousands of people who browse but haven't said anything because their update went smoothly. There aren't many active members in this sub-forum and for 4 people to have issues is a pretty big deal.

It's not as big as the Galaxy S5 update (which was botched, even on Verizon) but it has been bad for some people. Users who have had to factory reset aren't that much of a minority if we are going to properly look at this sub-forum. You also need to take your own advice and say "I didn't have any issues so I didn't have to reset but YMMV." Instead you came out and said "No! No factory reset is needed on almost all phones. Don't assume your negative experience is common."

Don't assume your positive experience is common.

As for the information about the Note 5, it just further cements my decision to ditch Samsung as soon as my Note Edge has served its purpose (or even sooner if this update keeps treating me badly).

 

[SHIVA77]

It's not as big as the Galaxy S5 update (which was botched, even on Verizon) but it has been bad for some people. Users who have had to factory reset aren't that much of a minority if we are going to properly look at this sub-forum. You also need to take your own advice and say "I didn't have any issues so I didn't have to reset but YMMV." Instead you came out and said "No! No factory reset is needed on almost all phones. Don't assume your negative experience is common."

Don't assume your positive experience is common.

I don't assume, I know my positive experience is common. if there was an issue with Note Edge update we would have known. It's just the 4 of you. No need to start a panic.

As for the information about the Note 5, it just further cements my decision to ditch Samsung as soon as my Note Edge has served its purpose (or even sooner if this update keeps treating me badly).

That seems to be the future of phones. I typically keep my phones for 2 years any way, so will see what Note 6 will bring, as Note 5 seems like a minor upgrade with no screen differences. And the no battery swap thing really bugs me. But soon no phones may allow that anyway.

 

[laspahr]

I don't assume, I know my positive experience is common. if there was an issue with Note Edge update we would have known. It's just the 4 of you. No need to start a panic.



That seems to be the future of phones. I typically keep my phones for 2 years any way, so will see what Note 6 will bring, as Note 5 seems like a minor upgrade with no screen differences. And the no battery swap thing really bugs me. But soon no phones may allow that anyway.

Remember, just because only 4 of us have voiced on here there was issues, that doesn't mean there were more. Factory reset isn't necessary, no, but its a pretty useful fix to any negative update bugs. All depends on the phone.

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[P_Devil]

I don't assume, I know my positive experience is common. if there was an issue with Note Edge update we would have known. It's just the 4 of you. No need to start a panic.

But you are assuming that your positive experience is common. We are so far the only people who have voiced our issues, there could very well be more people experiencing both sides. Nobody is trying to start a mass panic. OMG, run to the streets, a smartphone that sold to a very niche audience wasn't updated properly! The end is truly here! At the same time, our issues shouldn't be ignored.

That seems to be the future of phones. I typically keep my phones for 2 years any way, so will see what Note 6 will bring, as Note 5 seems like a minor upgrade with no screen differences. And the no battery swap thing really bugs me. But soon no phones may allow that anyway.

I just hate it. I see no need in spending $40 a month (I'm on Verizon Edge) just to get a phone that has 128GB of built-in storage when I could get a less expensive model and spend $70 outright on an SD card. It's one of the main reasons why I ditched my iPhone 5 in favor of my S5 but now Samsung is taking the same route. Their track record, whether in part due to all being Samsung and/or Verizon, hasn't been all that great with me. So far it's enough to drive me to either a Nexus device or back to an iPhone. I guess it's not the end of the world now that smartphones have 128GB capacities but it's annoying. I normally keep my phone for a year anyway. I just hate what Android smartphone manufacturers are doing (either doing what Apple has done or release crap flagships, I'm looking at you HTC).

 

[CTIGUK]

Just wanted to add my experience of Lollipop. In a word: horrendous.

Easy download, easy install, but battery seems worse, the phone heats up quicker and the phone is at times cripplingly slow. That's the most unforgivable part. I'm, what, two months into my contract with Note Edge (which i loved) and now I have a phone that runs like my girlfriend's two year old s4. Unacceptable.

I have wiped the cache partition. I guess the next step is to back everything up and try a factory reset. Failing that, is there any way to revert to the old version of Android that it came with?

Appreciate any help.

 

[CTIGUK]

Oh and just to add to it, I chatted to Verizon staff about it. They said they have a software repair tool i could use and that 'some apps and the phone is still optimizing' which sounds like crap to me.

 

[Statastic]

Battery life is definitely alot worse on mine.

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