Verizon to begin throttling video on all plans

[dpham00]

How did it go up by that much? It went up by $5 a month. The line access appears to be included in the plans.

That's true only for single line.


Beyond UDP is $50/ line for 4 plus lines. 10 x $50 = $500. For less than 4 lines, see attached

Grandfathered new UDP ( plan released Feb 17) is $100 account access plus $20 line access for 2 or more lines. So for ten lines, $100 + 10x$20 = $300


Here's the spreadsheet I worked up

 

[Jaycemiskel]

Beyond UDP is $50/ line for 4 plus lines. 10 x $50 = $500. For less than 4 lines, see attached//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170823/1cd97ff684eac2925f4d4617700b452a.jpg

Grandfathered new UDP ( plan released Feb 17) is $100 account access plus $20 line access for 2 or more lines. So for ten lines, $100 + 10x$20 = $300

This is why I went ahead and switched from my 16gb plan to the grandfather new UDP. I was probably eventually going to switch and I didn't want to deal with the price being higher later if I waited. Figured I'd get it while the getting was good.

 

[mbryanr]

Guess we get upgraded if already on the unlimited plan.

No mention of the known caps in place. "it's all good!" /sarcasm.

 

[L0n3N1nja]

I just checked the website, new plans are EXPENSIVE. My unlimited plan from what I can tell has all of the features from beyondunlimited except it increases my hotspot limit, which for some odd reason I don't get throttled beyond 10gb now.

Old plan $110 minus $10 for auto pay is $100. $20 line access per phone, so a 10 line account could be had for $300 or $30/line. New ones are $400 or $500 for a 10 line account. The one that is $40 per line introduces throttling at any data limit, DVD quality video, and no high speed hot spot. This is purely to make Verizon more money, there is ZERO benefit for someone already on unlimited to switch plans.

 

[dpham00]

I just checked the website, new plans are EXPENSIVE. My unlimited plan from what I can tell has all of the features from beyondunlimited except it increases my hotspot limit, which for some odd reason I don't get throttled beyond 10gb now.

Old plan $110 minus $10 for auto pay is $100. $20 line access per phone, so a 10 line account could be had for $300 or $30/line. New ones are $400 or $500 for a 10 line account. The one that is $40 per line introduces throttling at any data limit, DVD quality video, and no high speed hot spot. This is purely to make Verizon more money, there is ZERO benefit for someone already on unlimited to switch plans.

Pretty much. Remember Verizon got rid of unlimited data in 2011 and the 2gb tier which replaced it cost more than unlimited data did. They basically ended the introductory pricing. I hopefully those that wanted it was able to hop on before the change today.

 

[mbryanr]

http://bgr.com/2017/08/22/verizon-unlimited-data-throttle-vs-t-mobile-2017/

Only difference for me in this article is learning who pays for the 3rd party researchers that perform network testing.

The perspective from the Verizon employees is funny... [retail employees — the people who have to sell the plans — are furious. One said to me “read this on the way to work, realized this entire week is going to suck.” Another simply said “Welp. There goes my commission.”]

 

[Eclipse2K]

http://bgr.com/2017/08/22/verizon-unlimited-data-throttle-vs-t-mobile-2017/

Only difference for me in this article is learning who pays for the 3rd party researchers that perform network testing.

The perspective from the Verizon employees is funny... [retail employees — the people who have to sell the plans — are furious. One said to me “read this on the way to work, realized this entire week is going to suck.” Another simply said “Welp. There goes my commission.”]

The retail employees are in for an uphill battle that’s for sure. I do love how T-Mobile’s CEO always jumps on to rip Verizon. They’re doing some throttling of their own and their unlimited is not truly unlimited either. No one is innocent here because they all truly suck. But Verizon has superior coverage. Him saying their network is crumbling is a joke in itself because my phone works on many places his don’t. Lol.

But this raise in pricing is bad for consumers. But when isn’t big business bad for us?

 

[dpham00]

Legere is infamous for making mountains out of molehills

 

[Jason Fournier1]

It messes with people on ALL plans (that includes people on a limited plan). As in your plan is limited to 720P as well. At least from what I have been reading on reddit / articles.

No the video throttling is only for unlimited plans. I can still stream 1440p on YouTube. They don't mind the limited plans streaming at full speed since they can make more money from us.

 

[Almeuit]

No the video throttling is only for unlimited plans. I can still stream 1440p on YouTube. They don't mind the limited plans streaming at full speed since they can make more money from us.

Well that's good. I think if you pay for a per GB plan you should be able to do whatever with that data.

 

[dpham00]

Well that's good. I think if you pay for a per GB plan you should be able to do whatever with that data.

Yeah the issue is with unlimited. Their tiered plans are really expensive if you use lots of data.

 

[Doug Moffat]

Thieves!

 

[jweimn]

Yea,

I'm literally only hitting 3.5mbps with this throttling it's sad how pathetically slow it is.

 

[Almighty1]

I would have considered that if you could just grab a sim and start. Have to buy a phone from them. On top of that, we're getting fiber in my neighborhood, won't be with Comcast internet much longer.

You can always get the cheapest phone they offer which would cost $15 a month and use their sim with your phone and basically it's $45 + $15 before taxes/fees per month. No fiber yet here as sonic.net is building the other direction here in San Francisco so my choices are either AT&T UVerse directly or via sonic.net/DSLXtreme or Comcast and I am concern about fiber being available and switching so it might or might not work.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

You can always get the cheapest phone they offer which would cost $15 a month and use their sim with your phone and basically it's $45 + $15 before taxes/fees per month. No fiber yet here as sonic.net is building the other direction here in San Francisco so my choices are either AT&T UVerse directly or via sonic.net/DSLXtreme or Comcast and I am concern about fiber being available and switching so it might or might not work.

At that point, it's pretty much the same price as Verizon for my 3 lines. Not worth it to me. They should just let you buy a sim since it works. I've been with Comcast for forever, but they came out with this service just a little too late. They're digging in my yard as I type to start setting up the fiber.

 

[Almeuit]

At that point, it's pretty much the same price as Verizon for my 3 lines. Not worth it to me. They should just let you buy a sim since it works. I've been with Comcast for forever, but they came out with this service just a little too late. They're digging in my yard as I type to start setting up the fiber.

Yeah I think it would be a headache to toss in my home ISP and wireless. I like to keep them separate - especially since it runs on Verizon already and I am using that. I dropped Comcast when AT&T Fiber came out. It is cheaper at my house, faster then Comcast's service (no Gbps at my house for them yet), and even if Comcast did have Gbps at my house they only give you 1 Gbps down -- not up. They also limit to 1 TB. AT&T is 1 Gbps up/down with unlimited data.

Not sure why Comcast is still implementing those restrictions when there is competition here.

 

[cbreze]

I understood it’s not “all plans” as the thread title states but all UL plans. Some of us are fine with less than UL. But I do agree it sucks for the UL folks. I’m wondering if the bad press this generates will ultimately cause them to back peddle again.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

I thought it was all plans, that's what all the websites were reporting. It was part of my reason for switching to the old new unlimited plan.

 

[HawaiiD]

That's why as a T-Mobile subscriber I'm glad I didn't let go of my older simple choice plan to where I can stream @full HD or 1440p. With the new T-Mobile One plan you have to pay more per line for full HD video streaming. That sucks but at least you can still stream @ full HD and taxes and fees are included in plan. Knowing that atleast 90-95% of my data use included watching videos and streaming content it was more important for me to keep my current plan. It's sad that Verizon is selling current phones with great displays and at the same time not letting their customers reap the benefits of their expensive purchase. Hopefully, in the near future with customers pressuring and complaining about this? Verizon
will right the ship.

 

[cbreze]

I thought it was all plans, that's what all the websites were reporting. It was part of my reason for switching to the old new unlimited plan.

Yeah, just read a Verge article that says "tiered plans" are included in this.