Video quality is terrible.

[Ry]

All true. But our choice right now is limited. If Google merges the apps we can just download it and not wait for all the carriers to comply. Or wait for RCS and get what we want, but we are still beholden to the carriers. Neither of which are compatible with imessage. But at least with a messenger like Allo or Whatsapp anyone can download it.

Hangouts should have already been that on Android since Google Play Android needs a Google Account but then it'd be to Google accounts rather than phone numbers.

Not sure how Google merging their current apps would solve much.

1. would still need to download an app.
2. if by phone number, there's still the possibility of iMessage-like messaging hijacking.

 

[Dooki]

Hangouts should have already been that on Android since Google Play Android needs a Google Account but then it'd be to Google accounts rather than phone numbers.

Not sure how Google merging their current apps would solve much.

1. would still need to download an app.
2. if by phone number, there's still the possibility of iMessage-like messaging hijacking.

Hangouts had everything but was a terrible app.

Merging them would be a huge benefit. Right now if you want to talk to someone on Allo they have to have Allo, you can use duo right from the app which is good but that is two apps to download. If you are texting from a no data area or to a person without Allo or a person with an iPhone you have to use Android messages, now a third app that doesn't communicate with any of the other. If you do what imessage does or Hangouts did and have one app that does all three in one it just works properly. Someone doesn't have Allo, no problem, out of data, no problem, video call, hd video all the same app.
No separate app to communicate with imessage you just cannot send full res inline.

The two issues are imessage not playing nice with others and Android not standing up to carriers

 

[Ry]

Hangouts had everything but was a terrible app.

Merging them would be a huge benefit. Right now if you want to talk to someone on Allo they have to have Allo, you can use duo right from the app which is good but that is two apps to download. If you are texting from a no data area or to a person without Allo or a person with an iPhone you have to use Android messages, now a third app that doesn't communicate with any of the other. If you do what imessage does or Hangouts did and have one app that does all three in one it just works properly. Someone doesn't have Allo, no problem, out of data, no problem, video call, hd video all the same app.
No separate app to communicate with imessage you just cannot send full res inline.

The two issues are imessage not playing nice with others and Android not standing up to carriers

Actually - you can send a message to someone from Allo even if they don't have it. But it'll be confusing as hell.

iMessage not playing nice with others? Sure. iMessage falls back to SMS/MMS and Apple's gonna Apple.

But this is not an Android/Google "not standing up to carriers" issue.

Let me guess - you want them to up the MMS limit to like 500MB?!

lol.

 

[SDTRMG]

Hangouts had everything but was a terrible app.

Merging them would be a huge benefit. Right now if you want to talk to someone on Allo they have to have Allo, you can use duo right from the app which is good but that is two apps to download. If you are texting from a no data area or to a person without Allo or a person with an iPhone you have to use Android messages, now a third app that doesn't communicate with any of the other. If you do what imessage does or Hangouts did and have one app that does all three in one it just works properly. Someone doesn't have Allo, no problem, out of data, no problem, video call, hd video all the same app.
No separate app to communicate with imessage you just cannot send full res inline.

The two issues are imessage not playing nice with others and Android not standing up to carriers

This was a great debate to read.

My biggest grip is having to have so many appstore to contact people. Fb Messenger, whatsapp, allo, duo, textra, S messages, snapchat etc. Everyones using something different and we shouldn't have to download multiple apps to talk to a few different people.

Ultimately my opinion would be for google to merge a few of there apps and give us an imessage alternative for android. This would make sending videos/photos and videos calls easier on android. All messages should fall back on sms/mms like apple. There's nothing android can do about imessage, but they should fix there own situation before worrying about ios

 

[Ry]

This was a great debate to read.

My biggest grip is having to have so many appstore to contact people. Fb Messenger, whatsapp, allo, duo, textra, S messages, snapchat etc. Everyones using something different and we shouldn't have to download multiple apps to talk to a few different people.

Ultimately my opinion would be for google to merge a few of there apps and give us an imessage alternative for android. This would make sending videos/photos and videos calls easier on android. All messages should fall back on sms/mms like apple. There's nothing android can do about imessage, but they should fix there own situation before worrying about ios

Sounds like you want an app like Pidgin (https://pidgin.im/). Messaging is where your contacts are.

The fix is RCS. RCS will "fix" Android to Android messaging.

 

[SDTRMG]

Sounds like you want an app like Pidgin (https://pidgin.im/). Messaging is where your contacts are.

The fix is RCS. RCS will "fix" Android to Android messaging.

That would be a good App but it's just downloading another app, I was just saying it would be nice if duo and a messaging client like imessage was integrated in the android os (messages/calling app).

I know they won't because it takes away from OEM's and app developers.

 

[Sweetp1990]

There are no video settings to tweak if you use Allo on Android and iPhone.

I don't want to use Allo. Can't I just take a video of my dog and share it from the camera app? All this talk you guys are sharing is foreign to me.

 

[Ry]

I don't want to use Allo. Can't I just take a video of my dog and share it from the camera app? All this talk you guys are sharing is foreign to me.

Sure you can. But if you share via MMS, don't expect it to be the same quality for the recipient.

 

[anony_mouse]

I don't want Android to Android messaging being hijacked by a non-standard, non-open messaging platform.

You could use e-mail.

 

[L0n3N1nja]

SMS wouldn't have been able send video.

Yes it does, just horrible quality.

 

[Ry]

Yes it does, just horrible quality.

No. It doesn't.

SMS is text only.

MMS handles media.

 

[anon(10388027)]

Canadian mobile networks have yet to upgrade to the RCS standard. Text messaging is limited to SMS and MMS file size limits.

Google can upgrade to RCS... that's good... but mobile carriers must support the standard.

Carriers are in no rush to adopt RCS... RCS works over WiFi... Thus ending a potential revenue source for mobile carriers.... Carriers want you to pay for text messenging functionality.

 

[Ry]

Canadian mobile networks have yet to upgrade to the RCS standard. Text messaging is limited to SMS and MMS file size limits.

Google can upgrade to RCS... that's good... but mobile carriers must support the standard.

Carriers are in no rush to adopt RCS... RCS works over WiFi... Thus ending a potential revenue source for mobile carriers.... Carriers want you to pay for text messenging functionality.

Maybe in Canada.

US is kind of used to unlimited calling and texting.

 

[Sweetp1990]

You could use e-mail.

THANK you. I will definitely try the email route and Google photos way.

 

[SDTRMG]

Maybe in Canada.

US is kind of used to unlimited calling and texting.

We have unlimited here to, but it's still used promotional material when they sell plans.

 

[cwbcpa]

I use Link Sharing through Samsung's cloud on my Note 8. Works great. The person receiving the video clicks on the video link just like they would click on an actual video if had been sent through iMessage. They get to view the video in all its original glory. You can send up to 2gb per day. I have yet to max that out.

 

[Tsepz_GP]

I use Link Sharing through Samsung's cloud on my Note 8. Works great. The person receiving the video clicks on the video link just like they would click on an actual video if had been sent through iMessage. They get to view the video in all its original glory. You can send up to 2gb per day. I have yet to max that out.

That is brilliant, I will give that a go next time I want to send a quality video.

 

[cedae5299]

Use link share

 

[Mandi Vegena]

Video quality is terrible.
My video quality sucks!! I have a note 8. It takes good videos but when I send them via text or post them, the quality is horrible. What settings should I have on?

 

[Mandi Vegena]

Same! I have a note 8 and it has the best quality but when i send videos on message, the quality is horrible. I can't be my carrier I have unlimited data.