Thank you VidJunky and B. Ditty for your help. I'll answer in order.
First, my carrier is Public Mobile.
" what type of message are you trying to record?"
The usual message when unable to get to the phone in time. "Thanks for calling, please leave phone number..."
"Then you say that when you dial the number the phone lights up and rings 5 times then shuts down..."
When I dial the cell phone, the screen lights up (awakens), and it rings about 5 times, then shuts down. Does not cast the voicemail message.
"You go on to say that the phone you're dialing from rings 9 times then gives a busy signal. So are you calling from a separate device trying to leave yourself a VM? Are you doing this because friends, family or others have complained that they are unable to leave you a message."
Yes. I'm testing to see if I am able to hear the message (and I can't), and if I can leave a message. That's a NO.
"but just to confirm you are not getting any message, correct?"
CORRECT. When phoning the cellphone from another phone, it rings about 9 time and then a busy signal.
"What happens if you call from the device? Are there any messages saved or not deleted when you call?"
The when dialing the the cellphone from the cellphone, or pressing and holding #1, The Message says there are no messages.
I cannot find where the set the number of rings.
When I dial the cell number on the cellphone, I get a message that say, "6UT1 This number is not in service."
When I dial, *611 I get Public Mobile assistance. Press 1 for this, 2 for that, etc.
"the actual phone and it doesn't control VM the carrier or service does. The phone mostly acts a connection and verification tool."
Interesting. I didn't know that. I'll go to PM's Community page.
I appreciate your help.
Best regards from Wellington, ON
Paul Hicks.