We Should Have Known Better....Sprint and HTC Knew

[Mikey47]

So, given this wild roller coaster ride, I think it is VERY SAFE to assume both Sprint and HTC knew that this was going on. The minute those of us who placed our pre-orders began the ever changing "order status" we knew something was going on.

Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but I think we can say now that this was in the wind then already. This was the reason why Sprint was very hesitant to announce a release date. They must have received assurances from HTC that this issue was resolved and that the devices would not be impounded.

So, everyone who questioned why Sprint was hesitant to announce a release date prior to pre-sales, your concerns are now vindicated. To those who expressed concern that Sprint was being wishy-washy on shipping dates and those crappy status messages, your concerns are also now vindicated.

To those of you who continually said "calm down, it's monday", "calm down, it's tuesday", etc -- we now know that we were right in questioning. This is far from the ordinary and both Sprint and HTC knew this was happening yet failed to inform their customers. Had Sprint/HTC been more forthcoming, I, and many others, would have been much more understanding in this situation.

 

[Awake]

If you have facts to back up your comments let's see them. If not you're just running with your own assumption.

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[Mikey47]

If you have facts to back up your comments let's see them. If not you're just running with your own assumption.

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It is purely a circumstantial case at this point. Given all the waffling by Sprint, the status changes, the lack of firm information, etc. are pretty convincing to me.

But, as of right now, you're right -- I'm assuming and I could be wrong, like HTC assuming their issue was resolved. The only difference is that if my assumption is wrong it won't affect two very large corporations, and thousands of customers of those two companies.

 

[manonmoon49]

It is purely a circumstantial case at this point. Given all the waffling by Sprint, the status changes, the lack of firm information, etc. are pretty convincing to me.

But, as of right now, you're right -- I'm assuming and I could be wrong, like HTC assuming their issue was resolved. The only difference is that if my assumption is wrong it won't affect two very large corporations, and thousands of customers of those two companies.

Objection your honor... Speculation....

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[tony404]

I would be shocked if they didnt know. I think they took a gamble on it being taken care of already and they were wrong .imo

 

[Mikey47]

Objection your honor... Speculation....

Judge: In the absence of any communication from Sprint, overruled.

 

[svargas05]

So, given this wild roller coaster ride, I think it is VERY SAFE to assume both Sprint and HTC knew that this was going on. The minute those of us who placed our pre-orders began the ever changing "order status" we knew something was going on.

Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but I think we can say now that this was in the wind then already. This was the reason why Sprint was very hesitant to announce a release date. They must have received assurances from HTC that this issue was resolved and that the devices would not be impounded.

So, everyone who questioned why Sprint was hesitant to announce a release date prior to pre-sales, your concerns are now vindicated. To those who expressed concern that Sprint was being wishy-washy on shipping dates and those crappy status messages, your concerns are also now vindicated.

To those of you who continually said "calm down, it's monday", "calm down, it's tuesday", etc -- we now know that we were right in questioning. This is far from the ordinary and both Sprint and HTC knew this was happening yet failed to inform their customers. Had Sprint/HTC been more forthcoming, I, and many others, would have been much more understanding in this situation.

They aren't going to give us EVERY single bit of detail as it unfolds... Sprint can't make an announcement if they aren't 100% sure of the outcome.

I'm sure they had to make sure it wasn't going to be able to release this week before they let the world know.

I think it came about a little abruptly and unexpectedly, at least for Sprint.

 

[MDteX]

Mikey47,

Calm down. It will be here Friday. (Maybe next week's Friday!)

Maybe they knew something, maybe they didn't. We are just like a jury. Somethings they will let us know while others are ruled irrelevant by the judge. Bu the jury should would like to know!

 

[johnshaft]

What should have been done, if it hasn't been done or made public yet is that HTC, Sprint, and AT&T should have submitted phone samples and to have someone rigorously testing to determine if there was any patent violation. If there was any violation, then they would have forced HTC and the carriers to have a subroutine written and programmed where the removal is done upon activation of the phone. Again, we don't know what is going on behind closed doors as this or something similar may be taking place as we speak. Let's hope for the best and this gets resolved quickly (within the next week). I hope the process is moving fast. If the government can have an emergency hearing for the NFL, then they should have something in place for the hundreds of thousands of consumers that have "invested" in this product.

 

[BigDinCA]

I would really like to know when Sprint knew. I imagine Dan Hesse and co. found out pretty late in the game. I say that because just a few days ago they were primping their feathers in anticipation and touting the early opening of multiple stores nationwide on Friday. As far as the email communications and lack of delivery dates, I can't speak specifics because I didn't preorder. But I can say that I have received over a dozen devices from Sprint in the last few years across all of my lines of service and RARELY did I get any shipping information before the phone was delivered. And when I say rarely I mean never, except the two times I received tracking information in the morning and had my device delivered by UPS two hours later. Their notification system, integrated through UPS, is terrible and has been for years. This includes new devices and replacement devices.

My wife works for DHS and I have been trying to get any information I can about this from people she works with, but apparently outside of the geek community here, not many people are talking about this. I have been give the basics of what happens during an ICE hold, but no specifics. Maybe because I'm in SoCal and this is ostensibly taking place in Kentucky.I'm still trying though.

 

[ffejjj]

Here's how i see it (right or wrong)

Sprint and Htc both knew about the possibility of a delay since December and took the needed step's to move forward. With this pending suit against them it was only a matter of time before the stink blew in the window but.... What are they to do? Wait it out not putting any new phones on the market Or Keep pushing forward every day like its business as normal till something happened.

I for one am glad they kept moving forward bringing this phone line (One Series) to market. They now have an issue with crApple and custom's or what not that they seemed to have took care of in a very timely fashion (still waiting for the official word)

The date was the 18th, if i get it a week or two late well i can deal with that knowing that Sprint and Htc are doing what they can to get us our phones. Remember this is money out of their pockets if it goes to far south. I bet they're doing all they can and thats all i ask for.

NOW GET ME MY PHONE lol

 

[Ry]

If there was any violation, then they would have forced HTC and the carriers to have a subroutine written and programmed where the removal is done upon activation of the phone.

Uhhh...

 

[illdini]

HTC - Taiwan
HTC America - Bellvue, Washington
Sprint - Overland Park, Kansas
ITC - Washington DC
Shipment of phones - unknown, probably a warehouse in California or Wash. state

Given that all of the parties involved are spread out over the world, I'm not surprised that updates on this situation have been problematic in forthcoming.


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[BigDinCA]

HTC - Taiwan
HTC America - Bellvue, Washington
Sprint - Overland Park, Kansas
ITC - Washington DC
Shipment of phones - unknown, probably a warehouse in California or Wash. state

Given that all of the parties involved are spread out over the world, I'm not surprised that updates on this situation have been problematic in forthcoming.


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FWIW, the devices are most likely in the Customs holding area in the Sprint/UPS facility in Louisville, Ky. Other than the devices that are already packed and ready for shipment. Those are in a different security area, but still on lockdown.

And Apple still sucks balls.

 

[Xiphias]

So, you think that Sprint and HTC sat down and said "hey you know what would be really good for our business? Screwing up the launch of this new phone! Making our customers angry will definitely increase our profits!"

That's a pretty dumb thing to think.

 

[Mikey47]

So, you think that Sprint and HTC sat down and said "hey you know what would be really good for our business? Screwing up the launch of this new phone! Making our customers angry will definitely increase our profits!"

That's a pretty dumb thing to think.

You're absolutely right. What I meant was that HTC and Sprint knew of the very real possibility that this would occur. Not that they knew this was going to happen and went ahead with dates anyway.

I think HTC gave Sprint notice that this may happen and given the potential likelihood of it not happening is what gave Sprint the warm and fuzzies to move ahead and announce a date.

 

[Xiphias]

You're absolutely right. What I meant was that HTC and Sprint knew of the very real possibility that this would occur. Not that they knew this was going to happen and went ahead with dates anyway.

I think HTC gave Sprint notice that this may happen and given the potential likelihood of it not happening is what gave Sprint the warm and fuzzies to move ahead and announce a date.

Ok, that sounds a lot more likely.