Welp, I guess I'm sticking with the V20 for at least a another year.

[Almeuit]

Before you drink the T-Mobile kool-Aid find someone with their service in your area to see how well that perform. My brother has them and it is bad in his area.

It sounds like he already has T-Mobile. He is just going to opt into their lease program for devices.

 

[Pinhi]

It is for that reason that I just bought another V20 as a backup last night. That's how strongly I feel about it.

I have three batteries in the loop for my original V20 which is only about two months old. 2 wall Chargers and I only plug my phone into the charger at night if it has less than 50%. In the two months that I've owned my phone I've never plug it into the charger in my car. Living the cord free life is the only way to fly. Thus the purchase of the second V20 last night. Oh and by the way, the second screen is not a gimmick. I love it and use it all the time. I love being able to swipe away a phone call in that screen and not have it on the main screen.

I mean the LG V20 is an absolutely fantastic phone. I love everything about it. Screen is great it's fast in fact you won't even be able to tell the difference between the Qualcomm 820 in the Qualcomm 835. I guarantee it. 99% won't be able to tell the difference in speed. So do yourself a favor and buy a backup V20.

 

[flyingkytez]

Just keep the V20 as a mainstay/backup device and get the V30 as a temporary upgrade. That's my plan.

Most likely my plan too. Lately, I've been carrying 2 phones around (double the power usage).

 

[vasekvi]

It is for that reason that I just bought another V20 as a backup last night. That's how strongly I feel about it.

I have three batteries in the loop for my original V20 which is only about two months old. 2 wall Chargers and I only plug my phone into the charger at night if it has less than 50%. In the two months that I've owned my phone I've never plug it into the charger in my car. Living the cord free life is the only way to fly. Thus the purchase of the second V20 last night. Oh and by the way, the second screen is not a gimmick. I love it and use it all the time. I love being able to swipe away a phone call in that screen and not have it on the main screen.

I mean the LG V20 is an absolutely fantastic phone. I love everything about it. Screen is great it's fast in fact you won't even be able to tell the difference between the Qualcomm 820 in the Qualcomm 835. I guarantee it. 99% won't be able to tell the difference in speed. So do yourself a favor and buy a backup V20.

My V20 has slowed down over time. Did a reset 3 months ago and now it's slowed down again. Wish I could load a custom ROM or do something to prevent this.

It's most noticeable waiting for the camera to launch or switch cameras

 

[flyingkytez]

It is for that reason that I just bought another V20 as a backup last night. That's how strongly I feel about it.

I have three batteries in the loop for my original V20 which is only about two months old. 2 wall Chargers and I only plug my phone into the charger at night if it has less than 50%. In the two months that I've owned my phone I've never plug it into the charger in my car. Living the cord free life is the only way to fly. Thus the purchase of the second V20 last night. Oh and by the way, the second screen is not a gimmick. I love it and use it all the time. I love being able to swipe away a phone call in that screen and not have it on the main screen.

I mean the LG V20 is an absolutely fantastic phone. I love everything about it. Screen is great it's fast in fact you won't even be able to tell the difference between the Qualcomm 820 in the Qualcomm 835. I guarantee it. 99% won't be able to tell the difference in speed. So do yourself a favor and buy a backup V20.

Totally agree with you. I am a hardcore fan of the V20. It's almost a perfect phone for me, especially with the removable battery. This phone will last longer than the V30. But at a business standpoint, this move was necessary for LG. Kinda sucks but this is the future. I'm keeping my V20 indefinitely, it'll be a collector's phone.

Oh and there is a difference with SD 820 and SD 835 and that's energy efficiency, it is MUCH more efficient (I think it's like 25% or more battery efficient). Also, the new V30 has the option to scale down to 1080p, making the battery last longer than running on a high QHD resolution unnecessarily.

 

[flyingkytez]

Before you drink the T-Mobile kool-Aid find someone with their service in your area to see how well that perform. My brother has them and it is bad in his area.

True, AT&T and Verizon is King for coverage (especially Verizon). Recommended if you live in the mountains or far from suburbs and City. Other than that, T-Mobile is actually one of the fastest in LTE speeds. And their price is just right.

 

[flyingkytez]

I don't think we will ever see another un-sealed phone after the V20. I just don't see the industry changing to that old school of technology. Waterproof phones that support wireless charging is what most people think they want now but the damn batteries have to be much larger capacity for me to upgrade to a sealed phone. I will limp along with my V20 and 3 batteries for the next 1.5 years

They are improving the battery technology. Phones are getting much more power efficient. So it's not really about battery capacity anymore, more about the tech and software optimization.

 

[flyingkytez]

No.

I'm keeping my V20 also. Battery packs and battery cases are NOT better. You know what I use a battery pack for? To charge my spare.

Agreed. A smartphone battery is very slim and fits in pocket easily. Also, the ability to go from 0-100 in 10 seconds, not waiting around for 45 minutes or longer to get to 100%.

 

[flyingkytez]

I also have a charging kit with a second battery. I don't typically need to swap batteries, but it's nice to be able to do so if needed.

Agreed. Not always necessary. But when you are traveling on foot, it's nice to pop in a fresh one and go. I took so much pictures and recorded so much video when I traveled to NY, battery life is the least of my worries. At home, it's nice to just swap instead of wireless charging or plugging it in. By nightfall, my battery gets low and my friends would randomly ask me to hang out. I'd tell them give me 15 seconds. Pop in a new battery and I have 100% for the night, no need to lug around a rediculous battery pack. Never experienced dead batteries ever with the V20, nor did I have to ask friends, "Do you have a charger I can use? Is there a wall outlet? Can I charge my phone in your car?"

 

[flyingkytez]

If removable batteries are that important to you, you might never buy another phone again.

Might have to resort to the methods that iPhone users have been doing and that's going to a professional and pry open the back cover to swap batteries. Will cost at least $100. Nexus 6P owners are experiencing dying batteries (go to the forums).

 

[anon(5630457)]

You'll be holding onto it a lot longer because no major phone is going to have a removable battery in the foreseeable future.

 

[TheMarcus]

My V20 has slowed down over time. Did a reset 3 months ago and now it's slowed down again. Wish I could load a custom ROM or do something to prevent this.

It's most noticeable waiting for the camera to launch or switch cameras

Same boat. This phone's performance is my biggest headache right now. A factory reset is only a temporary bandaid because it slows down again almost immediately once things are up and running. Doest matter that I keep less apps installed and disable as much bloat as possible, it still slows down.

My phone will run perfectly smooth at random parts of the day, though. Usually, though, performance is average at best, often times taking a dip, then with those rare instances where it actually runs like how you'd expect a high end device to run.

And my front camera randomly stopped working so now I have an excuse to do another factory reset today.

They are improving the battery technology. Phones are getting much more power efficient. So it's not really about battery capacity anymore, more about the tech and software optimization.

Battery capacity is always going to matter. Battery technology improves at a slower rate than the rest of the technology in the phone that often demands more power consumption. Then you use to factor in that everyone uses their phones differently. What's considered good battery life for some people is probably bad battery life for just as many. Bigger batteries solve this problem while those who are moderate to light users get the added benefit of having their phones last even longer without needing to be charged.

Agreed. A smartphone battery is very slim and fits in pocket easily. Also, the ability to go from 0-100 in 10 seconds, not waiting around for 45 minutes or longer to get to 100%.

I'll never understand how people will literally argue against removable batteries as if carrying around a power bank or a phone charger and cable is some how more convenient than us carrying around spare batteries that are too small to even notice in our pockets.

I am dreading the day I have to rely on a power bank. Man, maybe I will just get the Moto Z2 Play.

 

[Mike Dee]

Same boat. This phone's performance is my biggest headache right now. A factory reset is only a temporary bandaid because it slows down again almost immediately once things are up and running. Doest matter that I keep less apps installed and disable as much bloat as possible, it still slows down.

My phone will run perfectly smooth at random parts of the day, though. Usually, though, performance is average at best, often times taking a dip, then with those rare instances where it actually runs like how you'd expect a high end device to run.

And my front camera randomly stopped working so now I have an excuse to do another factory reset today. Battery capacity is always going to matter. Battery technology improves at a slower rate than the rest of the technology in the phone that often demands more power consumption. Then you use to factor in that everyone uses their phones differently. What's considered good battery life for some people is probably bad battery life for just as many. Bigger batteries solve this problem while those who are moderate to light users get the added benefit of having their phones last even longer without needing to be charged. I'll never understand how people will literally argue against removable batteries as if carrying around a power bank or a phone charger and cable is some how more convenient than us carrying around spare batteries that are too small to even notice in our pockets.

I am dreading the day I have to rely on a power bank. Man, maybe I will just get the Moto Z2 Play.

I won't argue against them but I'm also a realist.... They are going away... I don't know if it's forever and if it is forever is a long time.

 

[LGman072]

No removable battery in the V30. That really sucks.

https://youtu.be/RxZolcHl67Q

While I can sympathize (I have a v20 myself) this is the price we pay to have the IP68 water resistance and wireless charging. Might as well accept it because removable batteries will be good on all good phones soon. Get yourself a good portable charging solution rather than buying umpteen batteries. Battery life on my v20 has been good enough that I never even bought any extra batteries like I planned. Very few times have I been caught with a drained battery and no place to charge. Quick charge + airplane mode is a charging BEAST

 

[vasekvi]

It gives you water resistance....it's not a failure it's a successful innovation.

Water resistance and removable batteries do not have to be mutually exclusive features

 

[Mooncatt]

It gives you water resistance....it's not a failure it's a successful innovation.

You can have both, so that's an invalid trade-off argument. Sealed battery does not automatically mean water resistance and vice versa.

Not to mention you can take precautions against getting a phone wet. You can't take precautions to prevent a defective battery bricking your phone.

 

[scottbeamer]

Yes they really do though if you want a decent sized phone.

The Samsung Galaxy S5 is a decent sized phone. It has both a removable battery, and is water resistant.

 

[Mooncatt]

You also lose efficiency and size of the battery by having it removable. And you can use precautions from bricking your phone. Don't use fast charging, use chargers that follow USB charging standards.l, unplug it when it's done charging etc.

A battery is a battery, so not sure what you're getting at by losing efficiency. And how about instead of wafer thin phones prone to structural fatigue, you keep a little thickness to accommodate a larger battery and increase durability in the process. Your charging precautions don't so squat either for factory defects, as has been my case in every problem I've dealt with. Not to mention "fast" charging on a phone is relative to older charging methods, but still within the charging tolerances of lithium based batteries.

I do agree with you on unplugging out when it's full, though.

 

[scottbeamer]

Ppl want metal and glass on their phones nowadays...

I don't

 

[L0n3N1nja]

My S7 doesn't get plugged in that often, it has great battery life and sits on a wireless charger most of the time it isn't in my hand.

Honestly I was one who hated sealed batteries, but I also haven't found a need for a spare battery since 2012 with my Note 2. Once I got my Note 4 it had good enough battery life combined with fast charge I typically only charged it in the morning while I got ready for work. It's been 5 years since I had a phone that didn't last my work day, otherwise I do have an outlet and charger near me almost 24/7 anyway.