Mike Dee
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Welp, I guess I'm sticking with the V20 for at least a another year.
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I'll be sticking with my V20 for the foreseeable future. The V30 looks like it will be a great device, but I won't be pulling the trigger on it until it's been in the hands of real users for a while.
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Indeed it is, and it should get even better with Oreo, but I'm on Verizon, so that could take a while. I just fired up my G2 yesterday and let it do updates. It felt so nice and compact I'm actually thinking about using it for a couple weeks just for a change of pace.
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I just saw a comment in the Verizon Note 8 pre-order thread that someone got theirs yesterday with the battery already charged to 94% out of the box. That's a big no-no for the manufacture, storage, and shipping of lithium rechargeable batteries.
I'd personally be tempted to do a warranty claim because that amounts to abuse of the battery and could cause premature degradation. Heck of a dilemma for a sealed battery phone if I got one like that. If it was removable, I'd just roll with it and buy a replacement battery when needed.
I'd personally be tempted to do a warranty claim because that amounts to abuse of the battery and could cause premature degradation. Heck of a dilemma for a sealed battery phone if I got one like that. If it was removable, I'd just roll with it and buy a replacement battery when needed.
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I've personally never encountered it. They have a "storage charge" level for a reason, and being sent one outside that range is a yellow flag for me.
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I would normally say that could mean it was a return but it's too soon for that to be true.
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Currently carrying a Note 4, and the sealing of batteries in the Note 8 and now the V30 leaves me with a really tough decision. I can upgrade to a V20 for about $200, or keep my aging Note 4 in the hopes that a flagship-grade phone next year will feature a swappable battery as an option.
I have owned two phones with sealed batteries, and in both cases within 9 months the battery degraded to the point where I could not get through the time periods I need to routinely get through without access to a charger. With my Note 4, I have been able to "refresh" that battery life by simply buying a new $20 battery.
I fully recognize that there are people who accept, and even prefer sealed batteries. And that's fine. I don't pretend to speak for the priorities of others.
But I know I'm not alone in strongly preferring replaceable batteries. I still hope some major manufacturer will see how many of us still value them and cater to that market again eventually. I firmly believe there is enough of a market that it would make a measurable difference in sales.
I have owned two phones with sealed batteries, and in both cases within 9 months the battery degraded to the point where I could not get through the time periods I need to routinely get through without access to a charger. With my Note 4, I have been able to "refresh" that battery life by simply buying a new $20 battery.
I fully recognize that there are people who accept, and even prefer sealed batteries. And that's fine. I don't pretend to speak for the priorities of others.
But I know I'm not alone in strongly preferring replaceable batteries. I still hope some major manufacturer will see how many of us still value them and cater to that market again eventually. I firmly believe there is enough of a market that it would make a measurable difference in sales.
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+1 to the OP
I was excited about V30 but the battery is a deal-breaker. I was equally excited about Note 8 and it fails me also.
I guess I will perpetually buy NIB V20 off Ebay.
I downgraded from V10 (a complete piece of bootloop junk) to Note 4, which is OK, just dated and now am thinking about V20.
You can pick up a NIB one for around $300. There is nothing in V30 that makes me want to spend $799 on a new one. Or whatever it actually costs.
I was excited about V30 but the battery is a deal-breaker. I was equally excited about Note 8 and it fails me also.
I guess I will perpetually buy NIB V20 off Ebay.
I downgraded from V10 (a complete piece of bootloop junk) to Note 4, which is OK, just dated and now am thinking about V20.
You can pick up a NIB one for around $300. There is nothing in V30 that makes me want to spend $799 on a new one. Or whatever it actually costs.
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