I'm going to say that Samsung could learn something from the v20 DAC. Still riding my Note 7, and it has a better DAC than the S7 supposedly, but it is nothing like the v20's were. not even close. The music quality was almost enough all alone to convince me to keep one or the other of the v20's I had... almost.
What I think about the V20 coming from a Samsung fan
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I'm going to say that Samsung could learn something from the v20 DAC. Still riding my Note 7, and it has a better DAC than the S7 supposedly, but it is nothing like the v20's were. not even close. The music quality was almost enough all alone to convince me to keep one or the other of the v20's I had... almost.
I use wireless headphones so I don't really take advantage of the hi quality sound, when I got my b&o headphones I hooked them up and they sounded good but I'm not an audiophile so it's not something I need but of course that's only my preference, I like the v20 it's a good phone, but I still miss my note 7 and look forward to the note 8 I use a lot of TouchWiz features and even though I do not use the spen all that much the other day there was no pen to be found and I really needed to jot something down :/
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Just a quick note, OP.
Just because a display is an IPS panel doesn't automatically make it more natural-looking. It also needs to be calibrated well.
A poorly-calibrated IPS panel will still look more inaccurate than a well-calibrated OLED panel. It isn't just the display tech used. It's how said display is calibrated and what type of gamut the display is targeting. Android doesn't have system-level color management yet, so anything beyond sRGB will look very oversaturated.
I think you missed the point that the poster thought it looked natural to them. I agree. I prefer the IPS LCD to AMOLED. AMOLED is way too saturated.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. Some people just view displays differently and I respect that.
Just wanted to point out that displays are more than just their tech. Calibration is key as well.
How many adjustments are available on the "screen" on the LG V20?.......
...... LOL!The OP said the IPS on the LG looks more natural. That is incorrect. It's a poorly calibrated IPS display being compared to one of the most accurate displays in mobile. It therefore looks more artificial. So the point wasn't missed, D13 was just a little less blunt about pointing out the error here.
Who cares? If the display works for the poster, then that's all that matters. Most people don't really care about how calibrated it is. They just want it to work.
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I do agree to an extent.
But considering that this phone is targeting content creators, an option for sRGB would be much appreciated.
It's been a thing on other phones including the Pixel, Galaxy S7, HTC 10, Moto Z, OnePlus 3 and others, so having that option would be nice.
Plus, the OP thought it looks natural. That's an opinion. You're making a technical argument.
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I still believe that display accuracy is very important.
It's all fine and dandy to make a display that prioritizes vividness over accuracy, but do provide the option to sacrifice that vividness for more accurate color reproduction.
Screen tech doesn't really influence accuracy that much as you can calibrate an OLED display to be very accurate.
It's all fine and dandy to make a display that prioritizes vividness over accuracy, but do provide the option to sacrifice that vividness for more accurate color reproduction.
Screen tech doesn't really influence accuracy that much as you can calibrate an OLED display to be very accurate.
This argument may be way over my head, but just exactly how are we defining the word accurate?
When I had the v20 and my Note 7 and I sat down in front of my 30 inch Dell monitor , I pulled up a color wheel from the internet on all three devices.
The Reds and the oranges and the pinks all kind of look like the same color on the v20 no matter what I did to make it look right. Orange and yellow and greenish yellow I could never get close.
Actually, the default setting on the v20 was the closest I could get.
The Dell monitor and my Note 7 showed definite distinctions between all those subtle shades, and actually looked fairly close to one another.
I have used software like colormunki to calibrate what comes out of my printer so it matches my screen , but other than the normal Nvidia color calibrations that you do on your PC, I haven't done anything else with my Dell monitor. But I use that as my reference.
So I don't know, but what are we using to determine what is or what is not accurate? Or, are we just talking more about what we prefer?
Either way is fine, I'm just having a little trouble following the conversation fully... Maybe I just need another cup of coffee
When I had the v20 and my Note 7 and I sat down in front of my 30 inch Dell monitor , I pulled up a color wheel from the internet on all three devices.
The Reds and the oranges and the pinks all kind of look like the same color on the v20 no matter what I did to make it look right. Orange and yellow and greenish yellow I could never get close.
Actually, the default setting on the v20 was the closest I could get.
The Dell monitor and my Note 7 showed definite distinctions between all those subtle shades, and actually looked fairly close to one another.
I have used software like colormunki to calibrate what comes out of my printer so it matches my screen , but other than the normal Nvidia color calibrations that you do on your PC, I haven't done anything else with my Dell monitor. But I use that as my reference.
So I don't know, but what are we using to determine what is or what is not accurate? Or, are we just talking more about what we prefer?
Either way is fine, I'm just having a little trouble following the conversation fully... Maybe I just need another cup of coffee
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Aren't all of those OLED displays? Maybe there is a limitation in regard to LCD displays? I'm no expert...just asking.
Accurate screens can be on either type; until this summer the best screens were typically those OLED's made by Samsung when properly calibrated, but the iPhone 7/7+ now have the most accurate displays in mobile and they are LCD.
Does that mean a simple software fix could drastically improve the v20 display "accuracy"? You'd think they'd have done it before it was released...
When we say, "natural" or "accurate", generally we're talking about whichever displays show the least deviation from the color gamut standards used in most content consumption, which in the case of Android is sRGB. So the most "natural" display is the one with a average deviation closest to 0. Presently, the most accurate LCD displays are the iPhone 7/7+, Nexus 5X, iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and HTC 10. The most accurate OLED displays are the S7/S7 Edge, S6 Edge, Nexus 6P, Pixel/Pixel XL and OnePlus 3/3T. All of those OLED have to be set to a sRGB specific mode to get this accuracy and are wildly inaccurate when not in that mode - and that mode is not the default. Just about everything else is far enough from accurate to be noticeably off.
Yes, it can, to a point. It could take it into the "too close to tell with your eyes" category that most recent flagships can get into. And it's not unprecedented, the OnePlus 3 released a software update after release that fixes their display accuracy issues and it made it quite good on that front.
This all seems respectfully superfluous IMO. The V20 has a nice display. Still prefer the Note 4 in basic mode when side by side, but personal preference.
I would miss wireless charging and even my old Note 3 screen looks better watching HD Youtube in the VZW store. The camera of v20 is way better than my note 3 camera but not close to the s7e cam to my eyes. I like ir blaster very much.
If LG comes out with a wireless charging back I'm in. Otherwise I will wait for s8. I would not trust an aftermarket wireless charging attachment. It must come from LG. Let me know if it happens!
If LG comes out with a wireless charging back I'm in. Otherwise I will wait for s8. I would not trust an aftermarket wireless charging attachment. It must come from LG. Let me know if it happens!
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