What would stop you from buying the Moto X?

[cgardnervt]

Real talk. I will not lie: my desktop has a Core i3 and guess what folks? IT'S FINE. It's all I need along with a huge hard drive for storage. I knew that when I bought it.

For you but I require an i5 cpu currently. So no glove is a one size fits all. Not sure why but people get all touchy when someone says the moto x phone isn't right for them. And the hype didn't live up to them in their eyes. No one is saying you can't enjoy. We are simply saying we will not enjoy it. It's just a matter of difference in opinion folks. No hate needed here.

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[ultravisitor]

For you but I require an i5 cpu currently.

Yes, but the current argument about the Moto X is kind of like people talking about a desktop and saying, "OMG IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A CORE I7 THEN WHY DOES IT EVEN EXIST?"

And really, the biggest reason why people are getting "all touchy" is because we don't actually know anything about the phone and the way it operates. People aren't even giving it a chance.

 

[HNNNNNGHHH]

The Moto X packs mid-tier specs for today's standards but even then, the Nexus line was more focused on software than actual hardware.

Either way, it's nice to see a phone that's not overpowered and seemingly forced to compete in the smartphone industry's de-facto 'arms race'. (*cough* Samsung *cough)

 

[Demur]

Well that depends on a few things.

1: How far away are they. If say they are at the same table and B barks out a command to his phone A's phone might respond to.

2: The command may be understood but not completed. As in your example, B issues a call someone to his phone. A's phone picks that up and tries to do the same thing. Only the person B was trying to get is not in A's contacts. Then the A's phone would just burp with non compliance.

1) That's what I figured, but there are plenty of scenarios where that puts person B in range: people having conversations, in cars, in businesses, restaurants, schools, on buses and trains, etc. etc.

2) Right. Just taking dialing as an example, there are a few scenarios I'm picturing.

I) Person B knows person A and some of the contacts that would be in their phone. Person B is an *** and deliberatly commands the phone to dial someone that will result in an awkward situation for person A.

II) Person B does not know person A, but is an ***, and deliberately commands the phone to dial someone using a common contact name (e.g. "Mom").

III) What happens if 4 people are in a car, each with this phone, and one of them attempts to command their phone to dial "Mom" and they all happen to have that in their address book?

"I" is probably the most concerning.​

Obviously these are moot points if the phone (reliably) recognizes your voice as NothingIsTrue says.

The phone knows your voice from others.

I was wondering about that. How reliable is that? And that means that if I hand the phone to a friend and ask them to call so and so, they won't be able to use the voice commands to do it?

 

[mech1164]

1) That's what I figured, but there are plenty of scenarios where that puts person B in range: people having conversations, in cars, in businesses, restaurants, schools, on buses and trains, etc. etc.

2) Right. Just taking dialing as an example, there are a few scenarios I'm picturing.

I) Person B knows person A and some of the contacts that would be in their phone. Person B is an *** and deliberatly commands the phone to dial someone that will result in an awkward situation for person A.

II) Person B does not know person A, but is an ***, and deliberately commands the phone to dial someone using a common contact name (e.g. "Mom").

III) What happens if 4 people are in a car, each with this phone, and one of them attempts to command their phone to dial "Mom" and they all happen to have that in their address book?

"I" is probably the most concerning.​

Obviously these are moot points if the phone (reliably) recognizes your voice as NothingIsTrue says.




I was wondering about that. How reliable is that? And that means that if I hand the phone to a friend and ask them to call so and so, they won't be able to use the voice commands to do it?

In the end we don't know yet. Hopefully these things have been worked out in the beta test. Now if this was Microsoft this would be fixed sometime next year in a service pack. Or told it's a hidden feature, yeah right sure it is. ;-)

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[ryanidcomm]

SD card slot .. I was hoping for more ram.. its not always needed but makes a difference

 

[Pollster]

Three things could stop me buying this.
1. A new Nexus which is not bigger than the Moto and doesn't have worse battery life. Possibly just a new Nexus even if it is bigger and has worse battery life.
2. Bad reviews by people who actually own and use the thing after it comes out. I'm not upgrading until Fall, so there will be plenty of time for pioneers to tell me if it's good.
3. Since I am not upgrading until the fall, another non-Nexus could come out and be better than this phone and the Nexus.

Did I mention I am a fan of Nexus phones a million times? Item 1 is the thing most likely to keep me from buying this phone.

 

[NoYankees44]

In the end we don't know yet. Hopefully these things have been worked out in the beta test. Now if this was Microsoft this would be fixed sometime next year in a service pack. Or told it's a hidden feature, yeah right sure it is. ;-)

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And if it were apple they would charge you money for the same service pack but call it a different cat ;-)

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[Ry]

The DROID MINI may keep me from getting a MOTO X.

 

[jbruha]

then without question the Galaxy Nexus should be faster than the Droid DNA

I like his logic. "If all-my-anecdotal-and-strictly-personal-experiences, than Galaxy Nexus is faster than DNA." Makes perfect sense.

I had some more thoughts regarding the Moto X being regarded as midrange following the history of what we've learned about Motorola's new devices. It started with the rumor about a powerhouse device with tons of cores dedicated to different functions called the X Phone, no specs. Then we start to get all these ridiculous leaks and see that benchmarks have reported its internals as a version of the Qualcomm MSM8960T with 2GB of RAM, a chip we've seen before, though not this variant, and not with 2GB of RAM paired with it. (this is the part where the internet starts throwing the term "midrange" around left and right). Then today, we have the new Droid announcement and find out Motorola's using "their own" 8-core SoC called the X8 that sounds awfully like the chip previously rumored for the still yet unrevealed X Phone.

I'm purely speculating here, but what if the X8 is an Qualcomm MSM8960T modified with additional cores as rumored? Given that the new Droids require a separate core dedicated to the always-listening microphone, it makes sense for the Moto X to require the same or similar chipset.

If that's the case, and given what we know so far, I'm still okay with that, especially given the rumored price of this device. It seems that's the general theme of the disinterest in this phone: nobody thinks it makes sense to buy a Moto X for all that it is if you could buy an S4 or One for the same price. I agree, but it sounds like we won't have to worry about The Moto X being as expensive as the "high end" devices of this year.

 

[Ry]

I like his logic. "If all-my-anecdotal-and-strictly-personal-experiences, than Galaxy Nexus is faster than DNA." Makes perfect sense.

I had some more thoughts regarding the Moto X being regarded as midrange following the history of what we've learned about Motorola's new devices. It started with the rumor about a powerhouse device with tons of cores dedicated to different functions called the X Phone, no specs. Then we start to get all these ridiculous leaks and see that benchmarks have reported its internals as a version of the Qualcomm MSM8960T with 2GB of RAM, a chip we've seen before, though not this variant, and not with 2GB of RAM paired with it. (this is the part where the internet starts throwing the term "midrange" around left and right). Then today, we have the new Droid announcement and find out Motorola's using "their own" 8-core SoC called the X8 that sounds awfully like the chip previously rumored for the still yet unrevealed X Phone.

I'm purely speculating here, but what if the X8 is an Qualcomm MSM8960T modified with additional cores as rumored? Given that the new Droids require a separate core dedicated to the always-listening microphone, it makes sense for the Moto X to require the same or similar chipset.

If that's the case, and given what we know so far, I'm still okay with that, especially given the rumored price of this device. It seems that's the general theme of the disinterest in this phone: nobody thinks it makes sense to buy a Moto X for all that it is if you could buy an S4 or One for the same price. I agree, but it sounds like we won't have to worry about The Moto X being as expensive as the "high end" devices of this year.

The internet believes all rumors to be true.

 

[karn101]

I like his logic. "If all-my-anecdotal-and-strictly-personal-experiences, than Galaxy Nexus is faster than DNA." Makes perfect sense.

I had some more thoughts regarding the Moto X being regarded as midrange following the history of what we've learned about Motorola's new devices. It started with the rumor about a powerhouse device with tons of cores dedicated to different functions called the X Phone, no specs. Then we start to get all these ridiculous leaks and see that benchmarks have reported its internals as a version of the Qualcomm MSM8960T with 2GB of RAM, a chip we've seen before, though not this variant, and not with 2GB of RAM paired with it. (this is the part where the internet starts throwing the term "midrange" around left and right). Then today, we have the new Droid announcement and find out Motorola's using "their own" 8-core SoC called the X8 that sounds awfully like the chip previously rumored for the still yet unrevealed X Phone.

I'm purely speculating here, but what if the X8 is an Qualcomm MSM8960T modified with additional cores as rumored? Given that the new Droids require a separate core dedicated to the always-listening microphone, it makes sense for the Moto X to require the same or similar chipset.

If that's the case, and given what we know so far, I'm still okay with that, especially given the rumored price of this device. It seems that's the general theme of the disinterest in this phone: nobody thinks it makes sense to buy a Moto X for all that it is if you could buy an S4 or One for the same price. I agree, but it sounds like we won't have to worry about The Moto X being as expensive as the "high end" devices of this year.

You hit the nail on the head. The Moto X has the same processor as the Droid Ultra and the Droid Maxx which is MSM8960DT.

This is why people need to chill with rumors. But now I wonder, where does the cost savings come into effect?

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[jbruha]

You hit the nail on the head. The Moto X has the same processor as the Droid Ultra and the Droid Maxx which is MSM8960DT.

This is why people need to chill with rumors. But now I wonder, where does the cost savings come into effect?

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I saw your other thread and now I'm starting to wonder the same thing. All we've heard are rumors so far though, so there's nothing to guarantee we're getting a lost cost unsubsidized Moto X. We'll just have to see.

Where are all the "midrange" haters now that we're finding out that the Moto X has FOUR more cores than any of the quad-cores available now, lol???

 

[Roundpotato]

Where are all the "midrange" haters now that we're finding out that the Moto X has FOUR more cores than any of the quad-cores available now, lol???

Oh please, don't make me die from laughter. If we can just count the GPU cores as part of the CPU, then I guess Tegra phones are 17 core phones because their GPUs have like 12 cores.

 

[Armada]

Oh please, don't make me die from laughter. If we can just count the GPU cores as part of the CPU, then I guess Tegra phones are 17 core phones because their GPUs have like 12 cores.

And AMD says they have 8 cores when they are really 4 modules. It is all marketing games. If anything at least they're using some dedicated cores to handle some stuff to let the dual core be less "weak" than some have already started honking about.

 

[diesteldorf]

Three things could stop me buying this.
1. A new Nexus which is not bigger than the Moto and doesn't have worse battery life. Possibly just a new Nexus even if it is bigger and has worse battery life.
2. Bad reviews by people who actually own and use the thing after it comes out. I'm not upgrading until Fall, so there will be plenty of time for pioneers to tell me if it's good.
3. Since I am not upgrading until the fall, another non-Nexus could come out and be better than this phone and the Nexus.

Did I mention I am a fan of Nexus phones a million times? Item 1 is the thing most likely to keep me from buying this phone.

I want an update to my Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I easily see myself using my current Nexus for another 6-8 months, possibly longer. In spite of its flaws, it is 100% unique and better than a Google experience device, since Google had a hand in hardware development too.

It's just fun to tinker with the phone and the developer support has been amazing. if I am still using the phone in 6-8 months, I have no doubt it will be getting Key Lime Pie. With that said, a locked and encrypted bootloader is a deal breaker for me because that will directly affect updates and future developer support. I would also strongly prefer a 32 GB version, since I don't want to change my storage habits and I like having media accessible when I don't have a data connection.

If I am optimistic, I hope that Verizon will get future Nexus devices and, if so, that'll be by next device. However, I have my doubts and think that the Moto X has the potential to be the closest thing to a Nexus device on Verizon for the near future.

After all, prior to the Galaxy Nexus release, some said the OG Droid was the closest thing to a Nexus device on Verizon. It had an unlockible bootloader, tons of developer support, and a devoted fan base, even as newer phones were released. I am hoping the Moto X can be the heir apparent to the OG Droid and the Galaxy Nexus.

 

[srkmagnus]

For me it would be price. I would like to get one on Sprint if the price is right.

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[Rule9]

I'm leaning toward the HTC Mini at the moment, though wary of not getting OS updates from HTC, but I have a couple months to decide.

continue being wary. Looks like HTC owners aren't getting an update until fall 2013 because they're skipping 4.2.2 and going to 4.3. Sadly, I'd bet carrier versions will likely not get an OTA until early 2014.

 

[Aquila]

continue being wary. Looks like HTC owners aren't getting an update until fall 2013 because they're skipping 4.2.2 and going to 4.3. Sadly, I'd bet carrier versions will likely not get an OTA until early 2014.

Some HTC One owners received 4.2.2 already, but some carriers are specifically choosing to pass and focus on 4.3. This is also being done by Samsung across the board on the Note 2. It is strange to see them skip a level like this.

 

[Rule9]

Some HTC One owners received 4.2.2 already, but some carriers are specifically choosing to pass and focus on 4.3. This is also being done by Samsung across the board on the Note 2. It is strange to see them skip a level like this.

gotcha, thanks for the correction