Why the spec hate...?

[Poopai]

you do understand there are barely any apps that take advantage of dual cores even though they have been out for a while. heck the OS is just now getting real support for dual cores and it isnt even out yet. by the time there is any useful application for quad, there is no question you will have wanted to wait for 28nm A15 SOC with radios for a true performance and functionality increase. but hey, to each is own right!!

The longer it takes the longer my device is future proof'd for. And if you keep waiting to buy a phone until things are made for it, you'll either always buy one just before its far superior brother comes to market, giving you a device which is a lot less future proof'd and thus of less value for your money, or you will never buy a phone.

 

[TheDave]

Wow, did not mean to start this much of a hate forum...

Sorry guys....Definitely not my intention....

 

[edoublediz]

Wow, did not mean to start this much of a hate forum...

Sorry guys....Definitely not my intention....

you didnt!! but anyone who would come here to the Nexus Forum and say something stupid like this "And so will my OG Droid, as we've discussed." tends to incite frenzy!

 

[anon(512898)]

Yeah, this guy takes just about any opportunity to tell all of us how wrong we are for buying the nexus when the tegra 3 is right around the corner without really knowing why and it gets kind of annoying so I got a little confrontational without meaning to. There is nothing wrong with the thread, and in regards to the original post, you are 100% correct, the gnex is at least competitive with every phone on the market and uses some of the best technology made today, no reason to hate on it over specs

 

[tntdroid]

Glad we worked that one out. Now back to waiting ..... and waiting ...

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[borgey401]

And so will my OG Droid, as we've discussed.

Muahahahaha yeah okay. You wait for your 27 core processor with16TB of ram, go ahead none of us will miss you in the Nexus community I promise. We'll be enjoying the best phone on the market with the most current updates while you keep on waiting. Sure quad core CPUs will be here but in phones you'll be waiting at least another 6 months. If you think it'll come to anything other than tablets before that then you're clearly delusional. Have fun rocking that Motorola Droid for another half year.


Everybody just carry on. Someone clearly does not get enough attention at home and feels the need to troll forums he has no interest in just to get people to talk to him....... pathetic yes I know.

 

[Poopai]

are you kidding? 40nm -> 28nm alone is big enough to wait for, and the A9 -> A15 will be like going from a Nehalem to a sandy bridge. Core architecture matters much more than the number of cores. The tegra 3 will be like AMD's phenom II trying to keep up with Intel's sandy bridge compared to the 28nm A15 based chips

It will just be like the difference between the Snapdragon in the HTC Rezound and the OMAP 4460 in the Nexus. It isn't a difference of double the benchmark as it is with singe to dual and dual to quad. You can't always keep waiting for the next little upgrade. The best you can do is buy hardware when the difference is biggest and at the moment it comes out, which is why I'm waiting for Tegra 3.

 

[borgey401]

It will just be like the difference between the Snapdragon in the HTC Rezound and the OMAP 4460 in the Nexus. It isn't a difference of double the benchmark as it is with singe to dual and dual to quad. You can't always keep waiting for the next little upgrade. The best you can do is buy hardware when the difference is biggest and at the moment it comes out, which is why I'm waiting for Tegra 3.

We can wait for whatever WE want to. Just because you think its not worth it that means everyone is supposed to? Think about how dumb this sounds. Some of us don't have to wait to buy the device that'll come out 6 months from now. We buy devices that we like as they come out. Who cares if we ant the Nexus. Do you think just because someone bye this device we can't buy a quad core device in 6 months when they come out? Because I certainly work hard enough to get the majority of the things my heart desires and I'm sure there's tons of people here who do the same.

 

[Poopai]

We can wait for whatever WE want to. Just because you think its not worth it that means everyone is supposed to? Think about how dumb this sounds. Some of us don't have to wait to buy the device that'll come out 6 months from now. We buy devices that we like as they come out. Who cares if we ant the Nexus. Do you think just because someone bye this device we can't buy a quad core device in 6 months when they come out? Because I certainly work hard enough to get the majority of the things my heart desires and I'm sure there's tons of people here who do the same.

When did I say you had to do anything? I'm merely offering opinions from the perspective of monetary efficiency, and making the practical assumption (Like the practical assumption you make of me being a human and not an alien) that others value this value as well.

 

[philly]

So is Poopai the new philly?

lol..

 

[MMcCraryNJ]

My first question that I really don't even want answered is, why is he here constantly bashing the Nexus and warning everyone not to buy it? This is the Nexus forums. I don't go into the RAZR forums and tell people they are making a big mistake and arguing constantly. I don't go into the ReZound forum and say how useless Beats Audio is and to prove me wrong. That would make me a T word...(trying to follow forum rules here guys, but sorry, I'm calling this dude like I see him)

Secondly, I'm not even going to get into why you should or shouldn't wait for the quad cores. Earliest you will see them in phones in the US is April/May. If you think you can do a lot more stuff with a quad core cell phone and be behind the curve until then, then wait. If the Nexus appeals to you, then buy it. Do whatever makes you happy, but stop telling other people they are making a mistake.

 

[borgey401]

When did I say you had to do anything? I'm merely offering opinions from the perspective of monetary efficiency, and making the practical assumption (Like the practical assumption you make of me being a human and not an alien) that others value this value as well.

That's funny because I don't see one person in this thread that thinks your trolling posts have any "value" to them. If they are in here then they sure do have an odd way of showing it. What I'm trying to say is that there really is no reason for you to come into a thread about a device that you have zero interest in and try to talk people out of liking it. Did you really expect to get positive responses after basically telling people they're making a crappy purchase because quad core devices are in your words "right around the corner"? Nothing positive will come out of this at all. To the OP I am sorry to get off topic in your thread and will end it with this post.

 

[Poopai]

That's funny because I don't see one person in this thread that thinks your trolling posts have any "value" to them. If they are in here then they sure do have an odd way of showing it.

Do not be deceived into thinking that the vocal minority is in fact the majority.

What I'm trying to say is that there really is no reason for you to come into a thread about a device that you have zero interest in and try to talk people out of liking it. Did you really expect to get positive responses after basically telling people they're making a crappy purchase because quad core devices are in your words "right around the corner"? Nothing positive will come out of this at all. To the OP I am sorry to get off topic in your thread and will end it with this post.

Except that I do have interest in the device. I want a Nexus, and I am begrudged to find the specs of the Galaxy Nexus the way they are. I offer disagreement in order to siphon through the opposing arguments in search of a proper justification towards getting it. But alas, I am left disappointed.

 

[crzycrkr]

Do not be deceived into thinking that the vocal minority is in fact the majority.



Except that I do have interest in the device. I want a Nexus, and I am begrudged to find the specs of the Galaxy Nexus the way they are. I offer disagreement in order to siphon through the opposing arguments in search of a proper justification towards getting it. But alas, I am left disappointed.

Well, to be fair, the vocal minority in an internet forum thread vastly outweight the UNVOCAL majority, lol. Second, plenty have given you plenty of justification. You clearly aren't in search of it as proved by your "so will my OG Droid" nonsense. There are simple reasons, quad core phones are still 4 to 8 months away, Nexus has a longer shelf life, quicker updates, ICS months before anything else, etc etc.

 

[belniente]

When did I say you had to do anything? I'm merely offering opinions from the perspective of monetary efficiency, and making the practical assumption (Like the practical assumption you make of me being a human and not an alien) that others value this value as well.

The problem with this argument is that your idea of monetary efficiency seems too narrow. The age-old cliche "time is money" has great value here - the longer I have to wait for a smartphone, the less efficient it feels because I'm losing out on functionality I would greatly appreciate. In addition, I don't know if the first quad-core device will be an HTC, Motorola, Samsung... what if I don't like the design? The Razr could be $50 and I still wouldn't buy it (except maybe to resell), because it's just not worth it to me to have a device that doesn't satisfy me. If I'm unhappy with the phone, how is that monetarily efficient? It could last for 5 years and I'd still have felt like I wasted my money.

I understand that where aesthetics can be my hangup, technology can be someone else's - I sincerely relate to your disappointment in the Galaxy Nexus. Everyone has something specific they want out of their phone, that makes the cost worth it to them, and when that quality is lacking in the one you were looking forward to, well... It sucks. :/

So, I see your point, but I disagree with the notion that the device is simply not worth it, period. It's not worth it to you or other quad-core diehards, but it's more than worth it to those of us in need of an upgrade in the near future.

 

[Poopai]

Well, to be fair, the vocal minority in an internet forum thread vastly outweight the UNVOCAL majority, lol.

Well I live by the principles of equality, so every soul, spoken or unspoken, has an equal weight to me.

Second, plenty have given you plenty of justification. You clearly aren't in search of it as proved by your "so will my OG Droid" nonsense. There are simple reasons, quad core phones are still 4 to 8 months away, Nexus has a longer shelf life, quicker updates, ICS months before anything else, etc etc.

Firstly, quad-cores are at most 4 months away (likely 3) by reasonable and practical judgment, and thus lie quaintly within the waiting zone for me (As it concerns yearly cycles). Secondly, shelf life is an irrelevant variable once I've acquired the device. And thirdly, quicker updates and having ICS first are minimal variables in comparison to hardware to me.

 

[crzycrkr]

Well I live by the principles of equality, so every soul, spoken or unspoken, has an equal weight to me.



Firstly, quad-cores are at most 4 months away (likely 3) by reasonable and practical judgment, and thus lie quaintly within the waiting zone for me (As it concerns yearly cycles). Secondly, shelf life is an irrelevant variable once I've acquired the device. And thirdly, quicker updates and having ICS first are minimal variables in comparison to hardware to me.

You said do not be decieved into thinking the vocal minority is the majority in response to a post talking about the other posters here. The original comment was not talking about other souls, only the posters here.

Secondly, quad cores may be 4 months, they may not be. They may be sooner. I may win the lotto. There may be octo cores in 6 months. If you want to wait, then wait. Shelf life is very relevant, because your first run quad core is probably going to end up getting smoked by quad cores that come 3 months after it. That's where the software variables come in, and that's why the Nexus line can always run with next Gen hardware.

 

[bulvine420]

If you go by this logic, you will never buy a phone. The "next best thing" is ALWAYS right around the corner with Android devices. You want a device you know won't be obsolete in 2 months? Get an iPhone, because they only release one of those a year.

Agree most of the time but Tegra 3 LTE ICS man thats tempting if the Nexus was not a Nexus that would make my decision allot easier the Galaxy Nexus will be a beast for a long time just not for gamers.

 

[MMcCraryNJ]

Agree most of the time but Tegra 3 LTE ICS man thats tempting if the Nexus was not a Nexus that would make my decision allot easier the Galaxy Nexus will be a beast for a long time just not for gamers.

That is why there is the PS Vita.

 

[Poopai]

You said do not be decieved into thinking the vocal minority is the majority in response to a post talking about the other posters here. The original comment was not talking about other souls, only the posters here.

Your words are lost on me, then.

Secondly, quad cores may be 4 months, they may not be. They may be sooner. I may win the lotto. There may be octo cores in 6 months. If you want to wait, then wait.

This is why I added the qualifier of "reasonable and practical judgment", because of course, if we don't have that qualifier, I could merely say in response to this that the Nexus may be a few weeks away, or it may be 10 years away, and expect you to accept that as a good reason to buy an already released device now. But of course, that would be a trite response of no real value, as you now see.

Shelf life is very relevant, because your first run quad core is probably going to end up getting smoked by quad cores that come 3 months after it. That's where the software variables come in, and that's why the Nexus line can always run with next Gen hardware.

I see no point in these words. Perhaps you have a different meaning of "shelf life", as to me, that means how long it's in the store for, so after I purchase the device that doesn't matter. However, if by this you mean something in the terms of performance, then to that I merely and easily say, that the difference in benchmarks between the Nexus and the first quad-core will be greater than the difference in benchmarks between any superior quad-core which comes out a few months later (Though history tells us that no smoking will occur in those few months), and that real world performance is irrelevant because the differences would be so small as to be unnoticeable, and also that the myth of Nexus performance "keeping up" is shenanigans imo.