If I have to carry around a separate device to engage in mobile gaming, I would never mobile game. Such is evidenced by the PSP and Nintendo DS I have gathering dust on the shelf after I used them once a few years ago. My phone on the other hand I always have with me, and I game on it all the time.
Why the spec hate...?
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If I have to carry around a separate device to engage in mobile gaming, I would never mobile game. Such is evidenced by the PSP and Nintendo DS I have gathering dust on the shelf after I used them once a few years ago. My phone on the other hand I always have with me, and I game on it all the time.
Right, but hardcore gamers looking for the kind of games that quad-cores can produce will most likely want a control scheme such as dual analog sticks and actual buttons. I'm a hardcore gamer, and I can't imagine seriously playing anything without physical controls, be it a keyboard/mouse or gamepad.
That kinda negates the entire purpose of waiting around for a quad-core phone just because of the games it can produce. And people will say "Oh well I can just bring around a gamepad", but at the same time, you could also just bring around your PS Vita, no?
So, quad-cores will be awesome for gaming, yes. But:
A. The Vita has physical controls as well as a touchscreen
B. Touchscreen-only devices don't lend themselves well to playing the kind of hardcore games that quad cores can produce, thus
C. Making the entire idea of waiting for a quad-core phone just because you are a hardcore gamer pointless, and also
D. Sony's device will receive tons upon tons of desirable first and third party titles compared to what the Android Market will receive.
I'm just saying...if you want to play Angry Birds Extreme HD, a dual core will play it just as well as any quad core. If you want to play Uncharted or Killzone for longer periods of time on the go while having almost the same gaming experience as you would at home, getting the Vita would be better than trying to fiddle with a 4.5 inch touchscreen for serious gameplay.
Sorry, you just shot yourself in the foot with "real world performance is irrelevant" while also talking about benchmarks. So okay, you wait, get your Tegra 3 that gets better benchmarks, and then get confused while a GN with worse benchmark numbers is smoother than your phone. Lmao
Lol, okay, now I see why people say don't feed the troll. You can keep justifying things in your head however you want. Have fun with that
I agree about the controls, and that's why it was such a travesty that the Xperia Play was so bad and had such little support from Sony. They shouldn't have made a Vita, they should have made a phone like the Xperia Play instead, but this time a good one and with full support. What I meant by my post is that you should want your phones to have the controls and power of the Vita; you shouldn't dismiss that expectation with "well that's what the Vita's for".
Mmmmmmmmmmk. Nexus is the first device that has caused me to not care about other rumors. Have fun waiting until Q2 of 2012. And for the record, the GN isn't "obsolete" because it doesn't use components that are slated to debut in mobile devices in the middle of next year.
Apparently I am mistaken on how benchmarks and real world performance equate. As far as I knew their was little to no actual correlation between the two. Each device neded to be looked at on its own merit.
It is fantastic that their will be quad core phones coming out next year. I think you are being extremely optimistic in your expectations of them being here in 3 months. I would be surprised to see one come out before summer and be even more surprised if the first wave of quad core phones were not junk.
The way I see it is this. I am a person who will have a phone for 18 months. I am buying a phone that employs the best of what is actually available at this time. This technology will be more than sufficient to do everything that a phone will actually be capable of doing for the next 18 months. Will their be a couple of minor innovations I may miss out on....sure. But the only major thing I will miss during the majority of the time that I own my phone, that someone with a qaud core phone will have, is higher benchmarks. My real world user experience will be no different. And in fact owning a Nexus and getting the latest in software advancements may actually make my end user experience better. Again there is nothing that you can do on a phone that needs 4 cores at this time or for the foreseeable future........ and by the time that their is I will be ready for an upgrade. So why should I wait to chase benchmark numbers when I can actually enjoy the day to day use of a phone that is the best of what Android has to offer in the here and now.
It is fantastic that their will be quad core phones coming out next year. I think you are being extremely optimistic in your expectations of them being here in 3 months. I would be surprised to see one come out before summer and be even more surprised if the first wave of quad core phones were not junk.
The way I see it is this. I am a person who will have a phone for 18 months. I am buying a phone that employs the best of what is actually available at this time. This technology will be more than sufficient to do everything that a phone will actually be capable of doing for the next 18 months. Will their be a couple of minor innovations I may miss out on....sure. But the only major thing I will miss during the majority of the time that I own my phone, that someone with a qaud core phone will have, is higher benchmarks. My real world user experience will be no different. And in fact owning a Nexus and getting the latest in software advancements may actually make my end user experience better. Again there is nothing that you can do on a phone that needs 4 cores at this time or for the foreseeable future........ and by the time that their is I will be ready for an upgrade. So why should I wait to chase benchmark numbers when I can actually enjoy the day to day use of a phone that is the best of what Android has to offer in the here and now.
No, you're not mistaken, he's just looking to argue. The problem with argueing with him is that he holds everything he "knows" to be true, and what everyone else knows to be false. Just look at his OG Droid comment. No use arguing with a brick wall
So, back on topic. Realistically, I think the only spec hate comes from spec whores from the future. Apparently the Nexs should come with hardware that isn't in use yet. They should have broken out the DeLorean, hit 88 and brought back tech that isn't here yet. We're also getting to the point where we are going to start seeing diminishing returns in regards to processors. Simple fact of the matter is that when the next Nexus comes out next year, the GN will still be one of the best phones around as proven by the longevity of the Nexus One and Nexus S
Poor analogy, unless you were talking about light only. I tend to build fires for heat and cooking and could care less about the light. I build fires before just before dawn pretty often while camping. I like hot breakfast and coffee. Just before dawn is typically the coldest time if you have ever been forced to be outside at that time.
Why do people want to be able to run Crysis on their phones? Quad core is fine for tablets. Phones do not need that much power, unless you bump the screen size to 5". At that point, buy the PS Vita.
My phone is used as a phone and a mobile Internet device (MID). I do play games, but only time-wasters like Angry Birds, Cut the Rope, PvZ, Field Runners. Nothing graphically intensive. I doubt that I would even need a high end GPU in my phone. I might start playing Dungeon Defenders once I buy the Nexus if the controls don't feel too cramped, like on my DInc. That would be the only one and only that one because my son plays it on the Xoom all the time.
I understand that what I do with my phone is completely different than what you do with yours. That being said, don't say that the Nexus isn't worth buying just because it doesn't fit your usage model.
OP - The Nexus is not bleeding edge. Quad core is. The Nexus is leading edge tech. Leading edge is top of the line current tech. Bleeding edge is what comes out next.
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Guys don't even bother with this person. It's very clear that he thinks he knows all and no matter what he says it will be right. Even though we all know his expectations are very far fetched in reality. Oh well I guess there always has to be one person like this in every forum. Pretty simple solution, just don't feed the troll. He'll bite your hand off.
Well said. I also dont use my phone for Gears of War 3, I have an Xbox for that, when I have time that is
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I just gave it a 1 vote only because there aren't negative votes.
Maybe there should be an area on the forum called "A-holes, Arguments and Trolls". The mods could then spend a few days and move most of the existing threads to their "proper" place.
Yep, at the top of each thread there's a rating button. Makes it easy to avoid crap threads.
I just wasted valuable time reading this thread. Nonsense from a "Juvenile" who wants to play games on his phone and is argumentative. Such is the life of a teenager. Made me sleepy, time for a nap.
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