Why we hate Apple!!!

[JeffDenver]

IMO, they buy Samsung because somewhere along the way, it became cool to buy Samsung.

And why did it become cool? You really think people buy Samsung for the logo?

Everyone I know who buys smartphones pays attention to specs. Even if only the display.

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[Ry]

And why did it become cool? You really think people buy Samsung for the logo?

Everyone I know who buys smartphones pays attention to specs. Even if only the display.

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If on "specs" those people must have Nexus 5s, Note 3s, and G2s right now.

 

[Haalcyon]

First, I did not intend to join this thread, I don't care what brand of device you own, it's all mass marketing regardless and most of the time built by cheap labors and sold for maximum profit. I also don't think its necessary to insult someone else's intelligence because they use Apple, I think that's a petty thing to do, not everyone care about technology and some people can afford premium price. (There are exceptions that I won't go into, ie fanboys).

My reason of posting is simply to add my own recent experience. I never purchased Apple products and I don't use their products (although with the exception in the past I have bought used iPods for family members).

For this Christmas, I bought some Chromecasts and also an iTunes gift card for family members so they can get a paid app that's Chromecast-compatible. Tried redeeming the gift card and it said the code was already redeemed. Aside from informing the store I purchased it from (you'll be hard pressed to get a refund since stores get commissions from selling the giftcards), I emailed up iTunes customer service, included my scans of the gift card and receipt with all the info I can give. After few exchanges they basically just gave me a run around and couldn't really do anything.

I searched Google and found plenty of people having the same issue with iTunes giftcard and not getting their money back, and this have been going on for a while now. How is it possible that Apple can let this happen at this age is beyond me, my guess is it seems to be an issue with the way their server handle the activation (I'm not about to think they are dumb enough to accidentally duplicate codes or get their giftcard system hacked), but it's the first time I ever got this issue from any giftcards I bought.

The way I see it, I'm not even an Apple customer and they stole my money. I will most likely continue to never purchase their products until they give me a refund (the only way it is possible is likely through a class action lawsuit), I don't care about the money itself, but I would be naive to expect principles coming from Apple (or any corps) in term of having decent customer service with the amount of money they have. But with a lot of other negative aspects I knew about this company and this experience, it's just more bad taste in my mouth about them.

That just stinx. I hope you somehow get your money back. Somehow.

CM on OgPro

 

[JeffDenver]

If on "specs" those people must have Nexus 5s, Note 3s, and G2s right now.

And they do.

The S4 is not selling so well because of the logo. SD, display, removable battery, etc... These are the things selling that phone.

 

[Fr0gburp3r]

Why do people by a Galaxy Gear instead of a Pebble?

 

[JeffDenver]

If on "specs" those people must have Nexus 5s, Note 3s, and G2s right now.

If the S4 had ****ty specs, you'd be right. No one would be buying the S4.

I do not know a single person who buy's Samsung stuff because of the name. If anything they buy it despite the name.

 

[JRDroid]

Why does liking Android mean you have to hate Apple? I know I don't. My next computer will likely be a MacBook Air. I convinced my wife to get an iPhone instead of an Android because it suits her needs better. The iPhone 5, 5s, and 5c are great phones. Do they have every bell and whistle that the high end Android phones have? No. Guess what? A ton of people do not care. Evey iPhone user who sees me use my phone to pay for something with Google Wallet thinks it is amazing, but not a single one has wanted to switch to Android because of it. I am not loyal to a brand, company or OS, I'm loyal to quality and what works best for me. If a day ever comes when iOS is better suited to my needs than Android, I'll switch in a heartbeat. I left Android in the early days of Gingerbread because it simply wasn't working for me at the time. I went to Windows phone and was happy as a clam. Then I used iOS for a while and enjoyed it a lot, but wanted a larger screen. When 4.0 came out and I saw Android vastly improved, I switched back and am glad I did. To this day I'd take an iPhone 5s over a Galaxy S4 because I cannot stand Touchwiz. It would be a tough call for me between the 5s and a G2 because I don't like LG's software either. Luckily, the magnificent Moto X exists and I use that.

 

[JeffDenver]

Why does liking Android mean you have to hate Apple?

Because there is nothing Apple has to offer that Android does not already have, yet they charge more for the same (or worse) hardware. That's probably the main reason.

It doesn't help that Apple is a sue-happy egomaniac that thinks they own everything because they think they invented everything.

I know I don't. My next computer will likely be a MacBook Air. I convinced my wife to get an iPhone instead of an Android because it suits her needs better. The iPhone 5, 5s, and 5c are great phones. Do they have every bell and whistle that the high end Android phones have? No. Guess what? A ton of people do not care.

The thing is, Apple is charging people more for a product that delivers less. I think that is a big part of why a lot of people don't like Apple. Apple is charging you for an image, not for a smartphone or tablet.

Also, it is not immediately apparent to non-tech users just how restrictive Apple is. And once they find this out, they are already "trapped" in Apple's ecosystem having invested a lot of money into it (because everything Apple is expensive). YOU might know what you are getting into, because you are knowledgeable about it. But most people are not.

 

[nessinhaw]

exactly the point!

Apple charges too much! Android does the same things but you don't have to pay a liver for it lol

just like Apple has quality, other brands also have!

and we all know Apple is related to status and luxury!

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[Ry]

Why does liking Android mean you have to hate Apple? I know I don't. My next computer will likely be a MacBook Air. I convinced my wife to get an iPhone instead of an Android because it suits her needs better. The iPhone 5, 5s, and 5c are great phones. Do they have every bell and whistle that the high end Android phones have? No. Guess what? A ton of people do not care. Evey iPhone user who sees me use my phone to pay for something with Google Wallet thinks it is amazing, but not a single one has wanted to switch to Android because of it. I am not loyal to a brand, company or OS, I'm loyal to quality and what works best for me. If a day ever comes when iOS is better suited to my needs than Android, I'll switch in a heartbeat. I left Android in the early days of Gingerbread because it simply wasn't working for me at the time. I went to Windows phone and was happy as a clam. Then I used iOS for a while and enjoyed it a lot, but wanted a larger screen. When 4.0 came out and I saw Android vastly improved, I switched back and am glad I did. To this day I'd take an iPhone 5s over a Galaxy S4 because I cannot stand Touchwiz. It would be a tough call for me between the 5s and a G2 because I don't like LG's software either. Luckily, the magnificent Moto X exists and I use that.

Emphasis mine.

 

[Haalcyon]

No reason to hate Apple. Just vote quietly with your wallet and leave it at that.

g2

 

[Ry]

exactly the point!

Apple charges too much! Android does the same things but you don't have to pay a liver for it lol

just like Apple has quality, other brands also have!

and we all know Apple is related to status and luxury!

sent from my Moto G <3

Yet the Google Play Edition One and S4 are in the same price range as Apple's products. lol.

Samsung has already hit that status with the common folk.

 

[nessinhaw]

Yet the Google Play Edition One and S4 are in the same price range as Apple's products. lol.

Samsung has already hit that status with the common folk.

yes BUT Android has cheaper options that also offers good to excellent performance!

Moto G, Moto X, the Nexus series...just to name the Google phones lol

what cheap options Apple has again?

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[Ry]

yes BUT Android has cheaper options that also offers good to excellent performance!

Moto G, Moto X, the Nexus series...just to name the Google phones lol

what cheap options Apple has again?

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The 4S.

And even still, most people (in the US) still buy their phones on-contract and Apple's products cover the same areas (free to $300).

 

[Foramex]

The 4S.

And even still, most people (in the US) still buy their phones on-contract and Apple's products cover the same areas (free to $300).

Let's divide the reasons to two parts

Off-contract- No questions, Android has a range of devices for all prices, and once you get to devices with the same price as iPhone, such as Galaxy S4, LG G2, they're just so much better then iPhone that there's no question. The Nexus 5 is maybe comparable to iPhone, but much cheaper and better.
On-Contract- Same reason as above, the real high-range smartphone, Android wins because of screen size, simpler interface then iOS, better battery life, more options, and the list goes on and on.
No what did you say about the 4S? I won't even comment.

 

[Ry]

Let's divide the reasons to two parts

Off-contract- No questions, Android has a range of devices for all prices, and once you get to devices with the same price as iPhone, such as Galaxy S4, LG G2, they're just so much better then iPhone that there's no question. The Nexus 5 is maybe comparable to iPhone, but much cheaper and better.
On-Contract- Same reason as above, the real high-range smartphone, Android wins because of screen size, simpler interface then iOS, better battery life, more options, and the list goes on and on.
No what did you say about the 4S? I won't even comment.

Is that enough of a reason for you to "hate" Apple?

 

[Foramex]

Is that enough of a reason for you to "hate" Apple?

Yeah man totally

 

[Ry]

Yeah man totally

..you must "hate" a lot of things.

 

[mrsmumbles]

Clams and liver... I'm getting hungry.;-)

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[JeffDenver]

Is that enough of a reason for you to "hate" Apple?

Mostly I hate Apple because of their obnoxious litigation and claiming they own every idea, no matter how obvious. I hate them because they are competing in the courtroom instead of the marketplace. I hate them because their product is more image than substance.

Are those valid reasons to hate Apple?