Again as someone coming from iPhone to Android, I have to agree with that. Even for the most obscure category, you have multiple great apps to choose from generally. I don't find the Play store to be quite there yet. I like how Play store is organized, but I don't think the content is quite as good.
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Again as someone coming from iPhone to Android, I have to agree with that. Even for the most obscure category, you have multiple great apps to choose from generally. I don't find the Play store to be quite there yet. I like how Play store is organized, but I don't think the content is quite as good.
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There are some new additions. It still looks practically the same. I had a couple of iPhones and the OS looked and felt the same.
That's true. I've never ever owned an iPhone and never will simply because the OS is too simple and especially os7 looks like a kids version of an OS. But from using it in the apple store for a few minutes from a software point of view, I would never touch iOS with any kind of barge pole. The hardware point of view got to admit is neat. Makes you device really look premium but I'm happy with my plastic galaxy s4. Plus its lighter and thinner so Apple can't really say their phones that are currently out on the market are the thinnest. Now that would be misleading.
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Actually, the iPhone 5 and S4 are exactly the same thickness. The iPhone is also .6 ounces lighter than the S4 because of its aluminum build.
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It's so amusing reading all these comments that are totally inaccurate. It really shows the ignorance of some Android fanboys. Almost makes me feel ashamed to be an owner or Android devices. lol
While this thread is pretentious and poorly created, I do find it interesting to read about the shortcomings of both Apple and Google. So I'll chime in, admittedly rather pretentiously.
The #1 issue with the iPhone is the screen and screen size. I can't imagine anyone going from an Android phone with a large crisp screen to a iPhone 4. Even the iPhone 5 fails in comparison to the newer Android phones.
Another big gripe I had about the iPhone was finally addressed with iOS7 - the lack of easy app switching makes the phone hard to be productive. If I'm switching from a web browser to a calculator app, for example, in Android I can easily press the Apps button and go back and forth between the two. Apple obviously agrees with me, which is why they are now mimicking Android's app switching flow.
The modal notifications are also archaic. If I receive an email while writing this post, I am not interrupted. Instead, I get a brief summary of the email in my top bar. I can swipe down to read a more in depth summary, swipe down again for even more, and I can even archive it... All without breaking my flow or navigating away from my current screen. Settings also work the same way, something which Apple decided to finally fix.
I find the lack of swipe typing availability a huge loss... I wouldn't even be able to own the iPhone due to this functionality gap.
Hell even the lack of live wallpapers is depressing. Love my paper land wallpaper with live weather.
To be fair, I also find a TON wrong with Samsung's implementation of Android. The gimmicks and overrides are inconsistent with the rest of the OS, and I find the stock implementation a lot more intuitive.
Gripes with Android (stock) would be the unlock screen now having widgets... and the settings pulldown is a bit inconsistent and doesn't have everything I really need. This should be customizable like in CM.
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The #1 issue with the iPhone is the screen and screen size. I can't imagine anyone going from an Android phone with a large crisp screen to a iPhone 4. Even the iPhone 5 fails in comparison to the newer Android phones.
Another big gripe I had about the iPhone was finally addressed with iOS7 - the lack of easy app switching makes the phone hard to be productive. If I'm switching from a web browser to a calculator app, for example, in Android I can easily press the Apps button and go back and forth between the two. Apple obviously agrees with me, which is why they are now mimicking Android's app switching flow.
The modal notifications are also archaic. If I receive an email while writing this post, I am not interrupted. Instead, I get a brief summary of the email in my top bar. I can swipe down to read a more in depth summary, swipe down again for even more, and I can even archive it... All without breaking my flow or navigating away from my current screen. Settings also work the same way, something which Apple decided to finally fix.
I find the lack of swipe typing availability a huge loss... I wouldn't even be able to own the iPhone due to this functionality gap.
Hell even the lack of live wallpapers is depressing. Love my paper land wallpaper with live weather.
To be fair, I also find a TON wrong with Samsung's implementation of Android. The gimmicks and overrides are inconsistent with the rest of the OS, and I find the stock implementation a lot more intuitive.
Gripes with Android (stock) would be the unlock screen now having widgets... and the settings pulldown is a bit inconsistent and doesn't have everything I really need. This should be customizable like in CM.
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Having been an apple user for many years, I am new to android. Whilst I think my HTC one is a better phone than my 4s, I can't see me moving away from mac for my computer. I certainly don't hate apple, it is possible to like components from both ios and android.
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I was using the Blackberry forum for awhile when I as using a Playbook, and if you think it's bad here for that, you should check out that forum. I will never understand why people have a need to post inaccurate info as fact. If you don't like a product, fine. But if you don't really know much about it, just don't post 'facts'. I find this forum civil in that regard compared to the BB forum which get's ridiculous. People on there have never owned another device and will post all kinds of completely nonsensical info about other brands.
I won't say they are wrong. I am an Apple user, and I admit that some of their points are pretty valid. However, I disagree that Apple necessarily needs to change in these regards, much less do things the way Android does them.
In a nutshell, what some people may denounce as flaws or shortcomings, other people can also view them as strengths. It's a matter of perspective.
For example, there's nothing wrong with dissing the iphone's screen size. It's all a matter of personal preference, though I stop short at calling it out as an outright flaw, because to me, it's just that - a preference. I happen to prefer a phone with a screen that isn't too big that it prevents me from using with one hand and can keep easily in my pants pocket.
Likewise, while I do sometimes wish for a more direct means of accessing my files (apple's current method of siloing data by apps can get out of control fast when multiple apps want to access the same file; it creates multiple copies which can suck up your storage fast), I disagree that a file manager is the best way of going about this. To me, it is exactly "features" like file managers (clunky and cumbersome to manage) and ability to sideload 3rd party apps (major source of piracy and malware) that are still trapping us in the 1990s era of personal computing, and preventing our mobile devices from truly becoming post-PC devices. To me, Android is too much like a PC in that regard; I personally prefer IOS's appliance-like nature (where it is essentially a bare-bones app launcher, while staying incredibly safe, secure, stable and easy to use).
Stuff like lack of widgets, expandable storage, removable batteries, NFC or wireless charging are non-issues to me because I either don't use them, or feel that their current implementations suck anyways. I think it's saying a lot when a half-baked feature like passbook is apparently seeing way more adoption (even without NFC) and usage than a service like Google Wallet.
For me, I have played around with Android, Windows8 (on a tablet) and IOS, and I can say that after this, I definitely have a newfound appreciation for the way many things work on IOS. I won't go into specifics (unless someone asks me to elaborate). Suffice to say, they are done with the overarching goal of ensuring a great user experience for the end user.
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They certainly are wrong. Someone mentioned the dimensions and weight of the iPhone 5 being greater than the latest Android flagship phones. That was incorrect. Someone mention the iPhone is stuck with only the stock music player. That's incorrect. Someone mentioned they can't share files via BT. That's why there are apps such as Bump that allows you to share files between devices as well as your PC. Besides, why share files using BT when cloud services such as Dropbox, Box, etc. allows you to share files when you are not in BT range. This also covers expandable memory. I purchased a 64GB micro SDXC class 10 for approx. $60 for my S4 but I also have 50GB Box account that I paid $0 for that I use for my iPhones.
Can't expand notifications?
Here's a text notificstion on my iphone 5 running iOS7b5.
Here's a text notification expanded on my S4.
As you can see, the iPhone notifications doesn't need expanding because they already display more info than what an Android expanded notification can even display.
These are just some examples that show how innacurate fanboy statements really are.
The key issue is people list 'flaws' at times that haven't existed since the first iPhone. They do the same with Apple computers. I can't believe it when I read current posts on various forums where people bad mouth Mac's because of 'one button mice' and 'not being able to use 3rd party hard drives and peripherals'. They make similar outdated comments about iPhone/iOS features all of the time. So it's not a matter of preference when people make comments like that, it's them not knowing anything current about the products. And it a lot of cases, they just are wrong.
Thanks clearing some things up for the ignorant. So many people are not able or not willing to see any perspective other than their own. There's nothing wrong with the iPhone for folks that prefer what it has to offer. Many people hate the S4 that I use and love. Just because they do doesn't make it any lesser of a great phone to me.
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Both OSs are amazing to put it simply. We were using terrible flip phones just 10 years ago. And now we act like activists for phone companies. Fanboys will go both ways.
My opinion is... I dont enjoy the iPhone OS. Its just too simple and feel boring to me. Plus the screen size.
And thats it.
On a side note. I do enjoy the open source software because it allows for developers to be a little more creative which helps push the industry.
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My opinion is... I dont enjoy the iPhone OS. Its just too simple and feel boring to me. Plus the screen size.
And thats it.
On a side note. I do enjoy the open source software because it allows for developers to be a little more creative which helps push the industry.
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For me, security has been my biggest issue with Android.
If my wife loses her iPhone, I can log into iCloud and if the iPhone is on and connected to a network (be it WiFi or cellular), I can find and even wipe it.
FINALLY. Android now has something similar with the Android Device Manager (and no, I don't want to rely on a third-party system for this).
Android needed this and needed this badly in my IMO.
Oh and this thread exists because of hate for hates sake. Get over it people.
If my wife loses her iPhone, I can log into iCloud and if the iPhone is on and connected to a network (be it WiFi or cellular), I can find and even wipe it.
FINALLY. Android now has something similar with the Android Device Manager (and no, I don't want to rely on a third-party system for this).
Android needed this and needed this badly in my IMO.
Oh and this thread exists because of hate for hates sake. Get over it people.
WE don't hate apple...Some fanboys do.
I have had 1 iOS device, a 4th gen ipod touch, and it served me well as it was my first foray into 'smart' products. I've since owned the GS1, GS3, and GS4 and I can easily say that I will NEVER go to iOS.
With that said, it's easy to say that iOS is a great operating system...It's way too limited for me but even Samsung's software is out of the box.
iOS has great build quality, great quality IPS screens (resolution be damned, it's PPI that matters). A very fluid OS that even my quad core s4 can't mimic while running a custom optimized ROM. More polished apps (UI wise) & a great ecosystem.
Android has had functionality down from the get go, Apple has been more aesthetics driven. Both are great operating systems - with different focuses. Each working on improving where they were lacking in the past.
I have had 1 iOS device, a 4th gen ipod touch, and it served me well as it was my first foray into 'smart' products. I've since owned the GS1, GS3, and GS4 and I can easily say that I will NEVER go to iOS.
With that said, it's easy to say that iOS is a great operating system...It's way too limited for me but even Samsung's software is out of the box.
iOS has great build quality, great quality IPS screens (resolution be damned, it's PPI that matters). A very fluid OS that even my quad core s4 can't mimic while running a custom optimized ROM. More polished apps (UI wise) & a great ecosystem.
Android has had functionality down from the get go, Apple has been more aesthetics driven. Both are great operating systems - with different focuses. Each working on improving where they were lacking in the past.
This isn't really something the device doesn't have, but more of the issue that made me change to android. The iphone home button broke. I mean there is pretty much only one button I ever need and its the iphone home button. :/
That is a great point, and something that always worried me about my last iPhone. But, I had my 4 for 3 years and never had a issue. And I knew if I did I could walk into the apple store and have it fixed or have the phone replaced very quickly. I am enjoying my s4 a lot, but I will be curious to see what happens down then road if I have issues.
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