Will the one get android 5.0?

[Gator352]

I understand the carriers have a lot to do with holding up the updates. I mentioned that. My problem is with Google putting out updates faster than the carriers can update the phones they already have scheduled to receive an update, which is already an update behind. The only way to combat this is to buy a Nexus. Period.

Example: Google releases 4.1. Before phones enter market with 4.1, Google releases 4.2. As soon as phones release with 4.1, Google releases 4.2.1. Within months, Google releases 4.3. Phones get to market with 4.2.1 and Google releases 4.3. Now within months again...Google is releasing 4.4.....most phones are still on 4.1 and a lucky few rock 4.2.1 or 4.2.2. By the time 5.0 gets released, the lucky masses will be on 4.3.

These phones cost 200-250 to produce. The carrier prolly buys them for 300-400. They sell them to us for 550-700 per phone under no contract. Under subsidy, we pay 100-200 up front and the rest is split between 24 months. Not only do they make a profit on the phone, they make a huge profit on the high price of the plan. The plan is where they make the money. They could care less what phone you have as long as you pay the bill. The only thing the carriers are interested in is making the network better so you'll switch to them. So in essence, they don't care if your phone gets updated....they do it to keep you happy in the mean time so you don't leave. Google knows this.

 

[wanted198]

...I'm getting an unlocked phone. Will I get 5.0 and does it matter which network/carrier's SIM I use before I can update?

 

[roflwaffleton]

...I'm getting an unlocked phone. Will I get 5.0 and does it matter which network/carrier's SIM I use before I can update?

Why do you keep asking the same question over and over again? 5.0 hasn't even been announced. With the incremental numbering Google has been using for updates, there's no telling if/when 5.0 will be released.

 

[puch96]

Google updating Android is a good thing. Says they are committed to it. With that said.....

I'm actually sick of Google putting out updates before phones that are 2 updates behind catch up that are capable and/or scheduled to be updated. I understand that it's not all Google's fault because the carriers hold them back. But this fragmentation has to quit. So my feeling is that GOOGLE needs to let other phones catch dafuq up before releasing updates like they are going out of style. Not all of us can buy a new phone every 6 months to a year just to get the latest update that SHOULD already be on our current phones...

/end rant

I think Google should start having control of ALL hardware that has Android as OS. They should have control over the carriers, much like iOS has. That way, it is Google's say on which phones get updated and which phones don't. Also, they should decide "when" without having to rely on the carriers...

.... and then I woke up and I saw my HTC One was still on 4.1.

 

[festinator]

I understand the carriers have a lot to do with holding up the updates. I mentioned that. My problem is with Google putting out updates faster than the carriers can update the phones they already have scheduled to receive an update, which is already an update behind. The only way to combat this is to buy a Nexus. Period.

Example: Google releases 4.1. Before phones enter market with 4.1, Google releases 4.2. As soon as phones release with 4.1, Google releases 4.2.1. Within months, Google releases 4.3. Phones get to market with 4.2.1 and Google releases 4.3. Now within months again...Google is releasing 4.4.....most phones are still on 4.1 and a lucky few rock 4.2.1 or 4.2.2. By the time 5.0 gets released, the lucky masses will be on 4.3.

These phones cost 200-250 to produce. The carrier prolly buys them for 300-400. They sell them to us for 550-700 per phone under no contract. Under subsidy, we pay 100-200 up front and the rest is split between 24 months. Not only do they make a profit on the phone, they make a huge profit on the high price of the plan. The plan is where they make the money. They could care less what phone you have as long as you pay the bill. The only thing the carriers are interested in is making the network better so you'll switch to them. So in essence, they don't care if your phone gets updated....they do it to keep you happy in the mean time so you don't leave. Google knows this.

Hey, if this bothers you sooooo much, stop complaining and get a nexus. I don't see what Google can do about it, or why they should even care. Android belongs to them, and they put what they think android should look like on the nexus phones and they let everyone else do what they want to it and that's why it takes so long to be released on other phones. Why should they have to wait for all the other carriers to catch up? That'll just slow them down and while they're sitting on their hands waiting for everyone to catch up, apple, windows and blackberry will surpass them and some of the new things they came out with may not be so new anymore.

 

[cabiggs152]

I mean you're going to have to pick your poison. If you wanted the updated os get a nexus, but if you want a Samsung or a HTC then you have to know that you might not get an update ever. So IMHO to complain about your phone not being updated is trivial considering most people know that nexus (and now gpe) phones are the only ones guaranteed that update.

And as far as iOS its easy to see why there is no fragmentation there cause only apple makes phones that run iOS, you could bet that if another manufacture made an iOS phone, that thing would not be up to date like the apple iphone.
That'll be all from me

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[HalizDad]

I mean you're going to have to pick your poison. If you wanted the updated os get a nexus, but if you want a Samsung or a HTC then you have to know that you might not get an update ever. So IMHO to complain about your phone not being updated is trivial considering most people know that nexus (and now gpe) phones are the only ones guaranteed that update.

And as far as iOS its easy to see why there is no fragmentation there cause only apple makes phones that run iOS, you could bet that if another manufacture made an iOS phone, that thing would not be up to date like the apple iphone.
That'll be all from me

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Exactly...Nexus...I want me one.

 

[dcjose48]

Google updating Android is a good thing. Says they are committed to it. With that said.....

I'm actually sick of Google putting out updates before phones that are 2 updates behind catch up that are capable and/or scheduled to be updated. I understand that it's not all Google's fault because the carriers hold them back. But this fragmentation has to quit. So my feeling is that GOOGLE needs to let other phones catch dafuq up before releasing updates like they are going out of style. Not all of us can buy a new phone every 6 months to a year just to get the latest update that SHOULD already be on our current phones...

/end rant

Then buy a nexus phone or go to apple.

 

[joansin]

Google updating Android is a good thing. Says they are committed to it. With that said.....

I'm actually sick of Google putting out updates before phones that are 2 updates behind catch up that are capable and/or scheduled to be updated. I understand that it's not all Google's fault because the carriers hold them back. But this fragmentation has to quit. So my feeling is that GOOGLE needs to let other phones catch dafuq up before releasing updates like they are going out of style. Not all of us can buy a new phone every 6 months to a year just to get the latest update that SHOULD already be on our current phones...

/end rant

Woe! Woe woe woe......! Google has nothing to do with a phone updating to the latest and greatest. Google is just making the greatest OS it can to provide us with an awesome user experience (which they are doing a great job)! The phone manufacturers are responsible for porting the OS to the phones. The manufacturer has to wait and pin point what update would be best for the phone and when to update it. They would never make new phones if they had to spend all their time porting updates to the phones they have. Major updates, yes! Minor updates, no! They aren't going to spend tens of thousands of dollars to make sure each phone has every byte of updates....... (See what I did there..... LOL). This is just how I think it works. I could be wrong, but Google has nothing to do with your phone getting an update. That's on the manufacturer.

 

[joansin]

I mean you're going to have to pick your poison. If you wanted the updated os get a nexus, but if you want a Samsung or a HTC then you have to know that you might not get an update ever. So IMHO to complain about your phone not being updated is trivial considering most people know that nexus (and now gpe) phones are the only ones guaranteed that update.

And as far as iOS its easy to see why there is no fragmentation there cause only apple makes phones that run iOS, you could bet that if another manufacture made an iOS phone, that thing would not be up to date like the apple iphone.
That'll be all from me

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Exactly, because it's a Google product. Google OS goes on a phone made by Google. Just because they have manufacturers build their phone for them, they are in control of the OS for their phone. I don't think manufacturers forget about us and not let us get the updates. They want us to buy their product when we go to get another phone so they are going to do what is most cost effective for them to try and please us with updates while building new hardware. It's common sense and rational thinking! If you think that Google sucks because you don't get every update on your phone from some carrier/manufacturer that just uses the OS then you are way off.....

 

[joansin]

And for all those of you talking about iOS and their updates; they make the OS and manufacture the phone. They don't have dozens of different manufacturers using countless different hardware configurations. Their updates are cross board because they only have the iPhone (even though there are different versions) to worry about. But with iOS you are limited to what they offer. I love the freedom and capabilities of Googles mobile platform. The amount of devs to provide me the tools to do all I can with my One and the open source to build what we want..... that's the best thing for me. If you are simple and don't want personalization.... then stick with Apple. If you want possibilities and want to stand out.... then get a phone with a keyboard, get a 8" phone, a flip phone, etc, etc with Android.

 

[hodan]

One will get updates though next year, so it'll get 5.0 if it comes out next year.

Otherwise there will be a Rom for it...

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[hodan]

Woe! Woe woe woe......! Google has nothing to do with a phone updating to the latest and greatest. Google is just making the greatest OS it can to provide us with an awesome user experience (which they are doing a great job)! The phone manufacturers are responsible for porting the OS to the phones. The manufacturer has to wait and pin point what update would be best for the phone and when to update it. They would never make new phones if they had to spend all their time porting updates to the phones they have. Major updates, yes! Minor updates, no! They aren't going to spend tens of thousands of dollars to make sure each phone has every byte of updates....... (See what I did there..... LOL). This is just how I think it works. I could be wrong, but Google has nothing to do with your phone getting an update. That's on the manufacturer.

Manufacturers PLUS carriers! Carriers being the important part...and they'd rather you buy a new phone instead of updating your phone.

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[joansin]

That is true. I didn't want to open that can but the manufacturers have to port the OS then get the damn carries to approve them. The carriers have rules and guidelines that may make it much harder than just porting over the OS. I get it, but most don't.... They just expect things to work without knowing the behind the scenes. Lots of people complain about Verizon.... I love their service. Sure there are things that frustrate me, but I wouldn't go to another carrier because I want the best coverage/network out there....

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[RyanMXA]

Hope we get 5.0, but I'm not sure why.
4.2 works great and I have no problems.

The argument of fragmentation between Apple and Android is ridiculous. Apple has TOTAL less than 10 devices to have updates. Android encompasses hundreds and hundreds of devices among different prices, manufacturers, and UIs. Does not compare.

Sent from The One

 

[dhdanielhart]

Hang on a minute did you just say Blackberry will surpass Android, As if.......