Will VZN ever get another Nexus?

[anon(94115)]

No, if the past repeats itself. Moto and Verizon have most of the. Moto bootloaders locked down

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[draiko913]

With Google's acquisition of Moto, I would be surprised if they encrypted the bootloader. Verizon seems to love the locked bootloaders though

 

[anon(94115)]

I wouldn't be. They have no real track record with it at all. Nexus doesn't count because unlocked is the point.

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[draiko913]

Maybe I misread the article, but weren't they speculating that the X phone would be part of the Nexus family?

 

[anon(94115)]

No the y were saying it probably won't be a moto nexus, but a modular version where the OS and moto blur would be separate layers.

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[CarbonOak]

No the y were saying it probably won't be a moto nexus, but a modular version where the OS and moto blur would be separate layers.

Having the Galaxy Nexus for a year, it's hard for me to deviate from stock Android. But if Google & Motorola are collaborating for something not just good, but awesome, even if it has a bit of motoblur, I may be down for that.

 

[Ry]

No the y were saying it probably won't be a moto nexus, but a modular version where the OS and moto blur would be separate layers.

Sent from the nexus of the Android world, the SGS3.

Modular version of the OS? Sounds like that previously debunked rumor from earlier this year.

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[anon(94115)]

Well that is kinda what they were saying in the articles.... And just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't. Where there's smoke....

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[Aguaski]

My understanding of the X phone is that it is intended to be a consumer device where as the Nexus line has been developer devices. With that in mind I would expect the X to offer a terrific user experience, but it may not be on the bleeding edge like a Nexus.

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[Ry]

My understanding of the X phone is that it is intended to be a consumer device where as the Nexus line has been developer devices. With that in mind I would expect the X to offer a terrific user experience, but it may not be on the bleeding edge like a Nexus.

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With the Nexus 7 easily available at retail outlets, I'd say the Nexus line is now longer strictly a "developer" device.

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[yosteve]

With the Nexus 7 easily available at retail outlets, I'd say the Nexus line is now longer strictly a "developer" device.

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I wouldn't call it easily available; it's sold out most everywhere!

 

[ConTejas]

They will see another. I don't think the n4 is out of the question. One thing though, it will never compete with a phone like the sgs3. Not and still run pure android. A pure device is just to barebones to be able to compete. Sure you will get new features but the sgs3 will get those same features plus whatever the oem adds in.

You just cannot catch up running pure android.
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You just cannot catch up to an OEM skinned and bloated rom based on and relying completely on the existance of pure vanilla Android, by running pure vanilla android, huh? Annnnnnd "sent from the Nexus of the Android world...the SGS3"? I'd say something cliche like "not sure if trolling or just stupid" but based on those comments I'm confident it's a unique mixture of the two qualities. I mean as little offense as possible, but that just blows my mind lol.

Agree with others that we'll see Nexi on VZW sometime in the future once a) demand is great enough for VZW to want to agree to Google's terms (as I doubt Google will ever agree to the terms they did with the LTE gnex) b) LTE is scaled to the point GSM/CDMA is phased out (but LTE is a proprietary technology so that could be an obstacle to unlocked/carrier independent LTE nexi). Google has certainly been marketing the Nexi platform to mainstream consumers rather than techy/dev types more since the gnex (much to some VZW chagrin) as its flagship devices with the OS the way Google intended, and the lastest and greatest from Android throughout the useful life of the device, but I think we're a ways off before Nexi hold enough marketshare for VZW to want to play by Google's rules. I'll gladly leave VZW for another Nexus once I either lose my cheap old grandfathered ulimited family plan or my corporate discount. I enjoy the "nexus experience" that much and Google/prepaid have made it too attactive to one's wallet to go another way.

 

[anon(94115)]

I am neither. If I ha e what you have and enhance it continually, how do you catch up? You can't.

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[NoYankees44]

Well Google is at an interesting place with nexus. The gnex was a step towards making it a flagship brand with the multiple carriers and good specs. But the next nexus 4 is a step back towards a pure development phone with the limited storage and networks. Where they will go with it? Who knows.

I personally think they should have 2 phones. One base developer phone with the minimum specs that they think further android phones should run on and sold as cheap as possible on gsm only. The second phone should be a flagship with the best specs available and on all networks with unlocked price compatible to other flagship devises. This way they have their cheap phone for development and their flagship for everyone else.

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[ConTejas]

The N4 IS a flagship phone with the top of the line specs, pure fact, unless you happen to be in the "must have a removable battery and/or a removable sd card" camp. You might not know it by reading these forums but those people are simply a vocal minority based on sales figure of devices without them. I've seen plenty of N4 speedtests, and have now done a few of my own in the wild, to prove to myself that especially HSPA+ is comparable and sometimes faster than LTE and gsm 3g speeds generally kill CDMA speeds. This makes the lack of LTE a non issue for the majority of the world Google is targeting and also millions of customers in the states. Lastly, it does support band 4 LTE if you live in Canada, Mexico, and supposedly T Mobile will be building their LTE on band 4 as well. No soldering, no wires, just switch to LTE and go if you're on band 4 LTE. Oh, and the the price.

 

[anon(94115)]

Vocal minority? If you want to compare sales figures in the last year of those with or without sdcard slots, who is gonna win?

The n4 has great hardware specs outside of storage. I am softening on the removable battery part but it is still a nice feature.

On the software side, it cannot really compare to other phones.

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[menschmaschine5]

How is the N4 a step backwards? Offering a top of the line phone unlocked for a reasonable price seems like a great step forward, and offers a much needed alternative to the messed up American cellular industry. It may come to Sprint or Verizon, but I really wouldn't hold my breath since CDMA is so much more limiting. Maybe once LTE becomes ubiquitous and Verizon moves away from CDMA.

 

[ConTejas]

Vocal minority? If you want to compare sales figures in the last year of those with or without sdcard slots, who is gonna win?

The n4 has great hardware specs outside of storage. I am softening on the removable battery part but it is still a nice feature.

On the software side, it cannot really compare to other phones.

Sent from the nexus of the Android world, the SGS3.

If you don't like troll fodder, please ignore this post. Sorry lol.

Well, dude, I thought I'd be Capt. Obvious to mention the iPhones don't have either and do pretty well in sales I agree that the majority of Android phones with a removable battery/sd card greatly out numbers devices without. Why? Because 99% of Android phones EVER sold had them. Take notice that that trend is changing even outside of Nexi devices. Trust me, 99.9% of Android users that consider (cough..know) software > hardware own Nexi devices or at the very least run AOSP based custom roms on their OEM skinned devices. Obviously, I'm one of them. This is why my device with dated hardware will still seem a beast to someone who just bought a DNA, N4, Optimus G, GN2 (sorry...GS3 non international is as dated as a gnex...incrementally better hardware sans camera). You seem to be a new breed of Touch Wiz fanboi. Most would only defend it as "much better than it used to be." Either way it's clear you've never owned a Nexus or know what it's all about...cause it's the software. We'll see what song you're singing in a few months when the gs3 gets no OEM love and probably even the Nexus S is getting the latest OTA software updates from Google (with poor LTE gnex 2 months behind lol). As for dev support the Nexi trump all. Even the N1 is still getting dev love.

I am in no way trying to convince you to get a Nexus. I bought a GS3. It's still in my home and it's great. Not as great as my lte nexus to me. My gf, like most people, couldn't care less about either of them as long as it works for the few things she does with a smartphone. Just pointing out some interestly flawed logic in your posts.

 

[NoYankees44]

Sorry to offend the nexus toting elitists that seem to inhabit these forums. I thought it was better this time with the n4 than the gnex, but apparently I was wrong.

The n4 is a step back towards a developer phone. The gimped memory and no cdma or lte make it so. Google wants a devise to be sold cheaply so devs can afford it and del for the platform. Also, no one outside of the Internet knows what a nexus phone is. They now know the n7, but know nothing about the n4 because you can't fine them at retailers. I have personally never seen one and it is not because I have not looked.

This is why it would be great for Google to make 2 phones. 1 for devs and one for the rest of us that want stock android more storage and lte/cdma. That way everyone can be happy and android can have a true flagship instead of devise that has compromises just so it can be sold cheaply.

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[ConTejas]

Much to the contrary, I've found this particular forum to have some of the nicest and most helpful enthusiasts, not elitists, in the few years I've been visiting smartphone forums. Sure, we like our devices and the Nexus experience/ideals. This is a Nexus forum. I frequent plenty of other device forums just to stay informed or kill time. Rarely if ever post in them, but I visit. I challenge you to find any number of Nexus owners trolling other forums touting how our devices are so much better. You'll find plenty of ABC device trolls in the Nexus forums. I suppose you may say elitists because I often see Nexi owners respond to "OMG 8/16gb storage and no sd card = biggest fail Google's going to burn with "so find another device that suits your needs...Google/Nexi will be fine." To me, that not snooty it's just good, solid advice. If someone comes in here spewing illogical or misinformed comments we're happy to set them straight whether touting a Nexus, OEM Android, iPhone, or Windows phone.. Here's another one for ya...any Nexus cannot "take a step back towards a developer phone" because that's exactly what the program was designed to do. If anything, it's moved forward to the general masses. You can't find a N4 in the wild because they're literally selling them faster than they can manufactuer them. So much so people are happily paying nearly twice what Google is selling them for via the play store. If that's a step back I'm sure Google and partners/retailers will take two Oh, btw memory = RAM, not storage. Plus, cdma/lte doesn't mean diddly squat to most of THE WORLD. Sorry if these facts offend you

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