Wireless Charging

[Applejunkie66]

I just wanna know if anyone agrees with me on this. I'm glad Google did not include this, or at least how Samsung does it because I think it's a step backwards. I say this because if you use the hockey puck wireless charging station and you're on your couch and wanna pick up your phone to do something, then your phone isn't charging anymore. Whereas if it were plugged in, you could grab your phone and use it while it still charges.

Wireless charging to me would be like wireless internet. Having some device in your home that starts charging your phone as soon as you walk in the door. Just like your WiFi connects when you walk in the door. To me, that would be true wireless charging.

 

[Go0gle]

I think while some people love it, and have a good use for it, wireless charging isn't very popular with the masses. It's handy if it's built into your car or night stand or whatever, but having a separate charging puck on the table isn't really any more/less convenient than plugging it in (at least in my experience). If you have multiple devices then I could see how a charging mat could be attractive, I just don't think most people prefer that to just plugging it in and having a full charge in about an hour. Just my take on it anyway, I do think it's cool tech. Charging speed and charging standards have a little ways to go yet too.

 

[Rukbat]

1. Wireless charging your way would put a very large field all over your house (Tesla tried it about 100 years ago), which would be dangerous and very inefficient.

2. If the phone is plugged in and you pull the cable the wrong way, you can break the charging port. That's going to cost to have it replaced.

3. If you're using up the entire 50% of the battery's capacity (you should never let a lithium battery drop below 40%) before you can recharge it, you're doing something wrong.

 

[akin_t]

You must not know how inductive charging works if you think what you're proposing is possible.

 

[Bearcats98]

If you're using up the entire 50% of the battery's capacity (you should never let a lithium battery drop below 40%) before you can recharge it, you're doing something wrong.

Would you have a reference for that? I know you dont drop a LiIon low (I heard 15% unsubstantiated). But 40% is a pretty high ceiling. Not arguing...just furthering my knowledge.

 

[tdizzel]

You must not know how inductive charging works if you think what you're proposing is possible.

And there will never be any other technology invented so induction charging is the only wireless solution that will ever be possible

 

[Wiley_11]

Would you have a reference for that? I know you dont drop a LiIon low (I heard 15% unsubstantiated). But 40% is a pretty high ceiling. Not arguing...just furthering my knowledge.

Check out Table 2. If you only discharge to 10% and recharge you'll get ~4000 discharge cycles. If you discharge to 50% you'll get ~1300 discharge cycles. I have a Note 2 that's ~4 years old and OG battery is still good. Charge it often or replace batteries, the choice is yours.

How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University

 

[akin_t]

And there will never be any other technology invented so induction charging is the only wireless solution that will ever be possible

It'll take time; all the other wireless power delivery methods rely on RF or optical signals.

Obviously RF is a terrible idea for charging phones, and optical requires line of sight.

So yes, for the foreseeable future inductive methods are the best compromise.

 

[akin_t]

Check out Table 2. If you only discharge to 10% and recharge you'll get ~4000 discharge cycles. If you discharge to 50% you'll get ~1300 discharge cycles. I have a Note 2 that's ~4 years old and OG battery is still good. Charge it often or replace batteries, the choice is yours.

How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University

It's whatever, people replace their phones in 2 to 3 years these days anyway.

 

[Bearcats98]

Check out Table 2. If you only discharge to 10% and recharge you'll get ~4000 discharge cycles. If you discharge to 50% you'll get ~1300 discharge cycles. I have a Note 2 that's ~4 years old and OG battery is still good. Charge it often or replace batteries, the choice is yours.

How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University

Thanks! :-D

 

[tdizzel]

It'll take time; all the other wireless power delivery methods rely on RF or optical signals.

Obviously RF is a terrible idea for charging phones, and optical requires line of sight.

So yes, for the foreseeable future inductive methods are the best compromise.

I agree that it's not happening in the near future, but I'm 99% certain that at some point technology will be there where we can walk into our homes and our phones will automatically start charging. That's the only time I see it being useful to me.

 

[robber]

I just wanna know if anyone agrees with me on this. I'm glad Google did not include this, or at least how Samsung does it because I think it's a step backwards. I say this because if you use the hockey puck wireless charging station and you're on your couch and wanna pick up your phone to do something, then your phone isn't charging anymore. Whereas if it were plugged in, you could grab your phone and use it while it still charges.

Wireless charging to me would be like wireless internet. Having some device in your home that starts charging your phone as soon as you walk in the door. Just like your WiFi connects when you walk in the door. To me, that would be true wireless charging.

This argument assumes it must be one or the other, and not both.

I have bought into wireless charging and it is annoying that Google pushed it on earlier Nexus devices and have now dropped support for it since usb-c.

Providing both like Samsung does, is the best answer.

 

[swebb]

I miss wireless charging. I really liked it when it was put into a stand, like Tylt did. The pucks were somewhat less useful. But trying to charge with a cord and use your phone at the same time was much worse. I'd always worry about damaging the port. I generally only put the phone on the wire if it will be there overnight.

 

[hal1]

I only use wireless on my nightstand for the convenience of being able to grab my phone without having to yank on the charger cable. I will be buying one of those little transmitter adapters that you plug into the USB port and fold around the back of the phone, then put it on the charger. Then I can still pull the phone off with the transmitter behind it and look it, and unplug it in the morning.

I just have to research them ad nauseum before I choose one

 

[Wiley_11]

It's whatever, people replace their phones in 2 to 3 years these days anyway.

It's up to the individual. Deep discharges are directly proportional to how long your battery lasts. The people in my family are lucky if their batteries last 1.5 years, and they are removable.

 

[JJ Jones]

I miss wireless charging. I really liked it when it was put into a stand, like Tylt did. The pucks were somewhat less useful. But trying to charge with a cord and use your phone at the same time was much worse. I'd always worry about damaging the port. I generally only put the phone on the wire if it will be there overnight.

I've gotten so use to just setting my phone on my Tylt charger at night, I almost can't stand when I have to plug in. It's almost a must have for me. Almost.

 

[Brandon Harhi]

I can understand where you're coming from. I think it would be great in ideal situations; The battery is guaranteed to last all day, and you only have to charge your phone once a day. Otherwise, if you are tied to your phone it would be a bad situation. All the same, I would like for it to be in the second Pixel.

 

[CincyGuy]

I absolutely fell in love with the wireless charging (stand, not the flat pad) on the Note 7 for the 2 weeks I had it. Had the charger at work and could easily grab my phone the 20+ times per day I do to check an email, answer a text, answer/make a call. It was so very, very convenient.

 

[gofast81]

I just wanna know if anyone agrees with me on this. I'm glad Google did not include this, or at least how Samsung does it because I think it's a step backwards. I say this because if you use the hockey puck wireless charging station and you're on your couch and wanna pick up your phone to do something, then your phone isn't charging anymore. Whereas if it were plugged in, you could grab your phone and use it while it still charges.

Wireless charging to me would be like wireless internet. Having some device in your home that starts charging your phone as soon as you walk in the door. Just like your WiFi connects when you walk in the door. To me, that would be true wireless charging.

I don't get the love affair with it. Does not make a phone a flagship in my book. My only concern spec wise with the Pixel is the water resistant rating. Little low but I've had a Nexus 6p since day 1 with no water issues and I live by the beach. I don't want my phone in the water lol

 

[SteelGator]

I absolutely fell in love with the wireless charging (stand, not the flat pad) on the Note 7 for the 2 weeks I had it. Had the charger at work and could easily grab my phone the 20+ times per day I do to check an email, answer a text, answer/make a call. It was so very, very convenient.

I have had my Tylt stand forever. I never thought I'd have a phone w/o wireless charging again. The Note 7 AOD was perfect on my nightstand, reminded me of my droid razr maxx. Hell, I even bought the back for the Note 4. All that said, I think I am going to survive the lack of wireless charging on the Pixel.

Someday, somebody will launch the perfect phone . . .