Wow. How's Google going to beat new HD Kindle Fire at $159?

[dextorboot]

I really love the Amazon ecosystem and I'm heavily tied into it without Prime. But a lackluster UI and being locked in to Amazon is what scared me away from the Fire in the first place. The versatility, including access to Amazon, and price for admission is what drew me to the N7. Amazon Video is really all it's lacking and I'm sure that's coming at some point.

Price, versatility and selection is what drew me to Amazon content versus the competitions offering. MP3s and ebooks are routinely cheaper on Amazon. Even with th N7 I'm struggling to find things to use my free $25 Playstore credit on. Amazon has always done a wonderful job beating or meeting the competition in price wars and it's no different with Google. Amazon matches sales on MP3s and ebooks ALL THE TIME. They even started matching Barnes and Nobles equivalent of the ebook daily deal. Until Google can step it up and beat Amazon I'll never purchase anything but apps from them.

 

[JHBThree]

Really? The last Kindle Fire now has 22% of the U.S. tablet market (and that includes the iPad).

...according to amazon. The companies that actually track usage and sales put amazon far behind even Samsung. There were stories all over the web about amazons sales collapsing post iPad 3 and never recovering.

 

[bawboh86]

No you can't. You cannot stream movies on a Nexus 7 from Amazon Prime.

Sure you can. Just get Firefox for Android, and download Adobe Flash player from one of the hundreds of mirrors, and voila, you can now log into Amazon.com and stream movies. Sure, it's not as streamlined as just I got the product and can now stream Amazon Prime Content, but it all depends on where your other interests lie. Do you want to only consume Amazon products? That's fine if you do, I have nothing against people's interests being different than mine, but I personally don't want to be locked into such a sub ecosystem as that. I like the Nexus 7's openness and being able to do more than just consume one distributor's content.

That's the great thing about where the tablet market is right now: we have lots of choices and to each his/her own. With the i*ad mini on its way, there is plenty of competition in the marketplace, and , we, the consumers, can only benefit from that.

 

[JHBThree]

^^ This



^^ And not this. The Fire did well, until the new iPad was released. They dropped to #3, behind Apple and Samsung with 4% of the market share.

Kindle and iPad mini sitting side by side, same price. What is the average consumer going to purchase? It's a no brainer. You have to be heavily invested in the Amazon ecosystem to purchase a Kindle over the iPad mini.

And a bit oblivious of the other options available.

 

[6tr6tr]

Sure you can. Just get Firefox for Android, and download Adobe Flash player from one of the hundreds of mirrors, and voila, you can now log into Amazon.com and stream movies. Sure, it's not as streamlined as just I got the product and can now stream Amazon Prime Content, but it all depends on where your other interests lie. Do you want to only consume Amazon products? That's fine if you do, I have nothing against people's interests being different than mine, but I personally don't want to be locked into such a sub ecosystem as that. I like the Nexus 7's openness and being able to do more than just consume one distributor's content.

That's the great thing about where the tablet market is right now: we have lots of choices and to each his/her own. With the i*ad mini on its way, there is plenty of competition in the marketplace, and , we, the consumers, can only benefit from that.

Well, if that's how you're defining it, you can also root the Kindle Fire and add google's apps (and google play) as well.

 

[junglejunkie]

You don't need to be rooted to sideload flash and install a browser that supports it....just sayin'.

 

[Jaingo5150]

It's certainly not for everyone, but neither is the N7. I think it is a great announcement as they upgraded almost their entire line, not just the Fires.

There will be plenty of soccer moms, and the like that will love a Fire to replace an aging OG Kindle. My wife uses both the Kindle and her new N7 just because of the eInk feature. Most don't care about that and will see this unit as a great xmas present that will allow them to watch Real Housewives or Dance Moms on it after reading the latest Danielle Steel novel.

For me, it's just interesting to read about new tech. And BTW, I LOOOOVE me some Abby Lee!!

 

[booyahsaki]

They have both a 7-inch and 8.9-inch and the 7-inch is only $159. Plus it has an HD screen, double the RAM of before, longer battery, 16GB hard drive (for the $159 version!), dolby digital plus dual stereo speakers, 1.4GHZ dual core CPU, TWO wifi antennaes for faster wifi (first ever tablet to have this), HDMI-out. WOW.

(And add Amazon Prime to that and for $79/year you can stream movies - some that Netflix doesn't even have - and take out thousands of books for free on the device)

I read the press release as the new HD Kindle Fire will be selling at 199.99, not 159.99. Did I misread?

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[anon(924308)]

I read the press release as the new HD Kindle Fire will be selling at 199.99, not 159.99. Did I misread?

I think you're right:
7" = $159
7" HD = $199
8.9" = $299
4G = $499

definitely competition, but I think they cater to different audiences. my parents have the old Fire, and I'm not terribly impressed--the internet connection was fine, but in general it was slow and crashed often. plus, you're stuck with that unattractive, simple interface. great for non-tech savvy people who want an easy-to-comprehend interface and love amazon, like my folks.

I hope they change that awful power button.

 

[JHBThree]

They're all ad supported, which is ridiculous.

 

[DroidDavi]

I will be buying a n7 and have no desire for a kindle. I can get Amazon apps on my n7. Going with the n7 just seems like a over better choice.

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[dmmarck]

Just an FYI:

Amazon Kindle Fire HD vs. iPad vs. Nexus 7 vs. Surface RT vs PlayBook | Android Central

 

[MichaelPayton21]

The 8GB N7 is toast. it wasn't even that popular with techies, who wanted the 16GB model. The N7 was never going to be a popular consumer tablet no matter what Google claimed. Honestly, who outside of these types of forums give a rat's bottom about "pure Android"? No one.

All the average person wants is an inexpensive tablet that is easy to work and has a huge ecosystem. Preferably, it would also not have the screen pop off upon exposure to air. Amazon will kill the N7 and that $299 8.9" model might finally be the one tablet that can hold it's own against the iPad.

Haters scoff at the $499 model, but that's over $300 cheaper than the similarly spec'ed iPad 3. Amazon might not have as many games as iOS, but they compete well in video and music and kill everyone in the book market.

Seriously tempted to Craigslist my own N7 and get the 32GB 7" model instead. I don't need raw naked Android to read a comic or ebook, but I would love that much internal storage.

Based on the limited demand for the 8GB N7 and competition from the new Kindles, Google would do well to axe that model and add a 32 or 64GB N7 fast.

 

[YAYTech]

The 8GB N7 is toast. it wasn't even that popular with techies, who wanted the 16GB model. The N7 was never going to be a popular consumer tablet no matter what Google claimed. Honestly, who outside of these types of forums give a rat's bottom about "pure Android"? No one.

All the average person wants is an inexpensive tablet that is easy to work and has a huge ecosystem. Preferably, it would also not have the screen pop off upon exposure to air. Amazon will kill the N7 and that $299 8.9" model might finally be the one tablet that can hold it's own against the iPad.

Haters scoff at the $499 model, but that's over $300 cheaper than the similarly spec'ed iPad 3. Amazon might not have as many games as iOS, but they compete well in video and music and kill everyone in the book market.

Seriously tempted to Craigslist my own N7 and get the 32GB 7" model instead. I don't need raw naked Android to read a comic or ebook, but I would love that much internal storage.

Based on the limited demand for the 8GB N7 and competition from the new Kindles, Google would do well to axe that model and add a 32 or 64GB N7 fast.

While a higher capacity N7 might be worthwhile, where are you getting the impression that the 8gb model isn't selling well? And if it isn't selling well, could that be from a lack of distribution? I only recall seeing 16gb models in retail stores.

 

[JHBThree]

The 8GB N7 is toast. it wasn't even that popular with techies, who wanted the 16GB model. The N7 was never going to be a popular consumer tablet no matter what Google claimed. Honestly, who outside of these types of forums give a rat's bottom about "pure Android"? No one.

All the average person wants is an inexpensive tablet that is easy to work and has a huge ecosystem. Preferably, it would also not have the screen pop off upon exposure to air. Amazon will kill the N7 and that $299 8.9" model might finally be the one tablet that can hold it's own against the iPad.

Haters scoff at the $499 model, but that's over $300 cheaper than the similarly spec'ed iPad 3. Amazon might not have as many games as iOS, but they compete well in video and music and kill everyone in the book market.

Seriously tempted to Craigslist my own N7 and get the 32GB 7" model instead. I don't need raw naked Android to read a comic or ebook, but I would love that much internal storage.

Based on the limited demand for the 8GB N7 and competition from the new Kindles, Google would do well to axe that model and add a 32 or 64GB N7 fast.

These will suffer the same fate as the first one: strong out of the gates but collapse soon after.

 

[Dave_k605]

heavily skinned os, little to no updates, no play store.....



No thanks, I'll pay slightly more for something that is android, not just built on top of it and stripped of the goods.

 

[dmmarck]

While a higher capacity N7 might be worthwhile, where are you getting the impression that the 8gb model isn't selling well? And if it isn't selling well, could that be from a lack of distribution? I only recall seeing 16gb models in retail stores.

This. I'd love to see proof.

 

[hoosiermama2799]

I have the first Fire and bought my Nexus in early August. I am heavily invested in the Amazon ecosystem. I absolutely hate the locked down version of Android,especially that carousel. I hate that every book I buy appears on every Fire on my account (there are 3 on my account).

Even with the specs on these, I am convinced I made the right decision for me to get a Nexus. My Nexus is very smooth and I love Jelly Bean...even straight out of the box.


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[kinster02]

I say, all they have to do is remove some of the perks like the $ 25 credit, and those magazines and books and that could reduce the price.

 

[JHBThree]

I say, all they have to do is remove some of the perks like the $ 25 credit, and those magazines and books and that could reduce the price.

Of the nexus 7? The hardware is over $180. They have zero space to reduce the price at all.