WTH is Sprint doing???

And those maps shows how the coverage should be when the market aka town is complete its already stated that houston is probably maybe 20% complete now u can't have that coverage with just 20% just calm down and look at the bright side halftruthteller lol jk by the time sprint gets to the Chicago area Houston should be like 50 or 60%

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I did not say that I want "perfection" nor did I say halt all other cities. My thing is this, when reading a statement from a senior network officer within Sprint stating that "millions" of customers can now enjoy LTE, better this and that then thats what my expectations are as a customer. Even more so if there's a map claiming coverage when there is in fact NON. I only stated that if your plan was to build out 5 cities and then all of a sudden theres 10 more this means that your resources are spread to far out when all those resources should be allocated to giving a QUALITY experience for the customer where you as the company said it would be. Its like eating a steak that was ordered well done that came out rare. The quality is not there!
 
Are you serious????? Leesburg is 30 miles away? I just don't see LTE migrating this way.

It's all a matter of when. Sprint's announced plan is to convert its entire network, so eventually all areas that get 3G coverage today will get LTE service. The best informed guess at the S4GRU site for your area (the whole "Orlando" market) would be sometime in first half of 2013.
 
i hear you man....if ure going to compete with verizon and att...you better make sure the network is flawless this time around..
 
Just read the article for Phil that Sprint has lit up 3 more LTE cities but I have a serious problem with that. Im right here in Houston, a 7/15 launch city and I can tell you that LTE is virtually non existent and reminds me alot like how they deployed WIMAX..My thing is this, Sprint should focus it's resources on quality and not quality and not try to keep up with the big dogs in the number of cities it covers with LTE..Im sitting in the middle of Houston and cant get LTE unless I constantly go in and out of airplane mode and thats only when im outside of a building. Sprint need to focus all resources to get excellent coverage of LTE in a few markets and then expand. Sometimes I think Dan never graduated from elementary!!! Geez:mad:

This may not be the network but the phone. Please read. Yes it mentions the HTC phones but after emailing the author, our GS3 phones fall under this as well. For those of you having difficulties with lte. Please check out the following article.

by Robert Herron
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 - 12:59 PM MDT

As many of you already know, the ability to connect and keep connected to LTE signals in Sprint's launch markets has been problematic for Sprint customers. What's going on?

Here at our forums at S4GRU, we have been busy talking with our members and trying to figure out the issue since LTE markets started going live last Thursday. Some members were able to connect early and often. Some had problems and were able to eventually connect. Some have been unable to stay connected. Some have never connected, even standing right next to a live LTE site.

We have now complied a lot of data from our members and have drawn some observational conclusions. There are two main issues, connecting to LTE can be a challenge on some devices (especially the EVO LTE), and the signal thresholds are not optimum to keep connected to LTE before getting pushed back to the 3G EVDO network.

I am in a confirmed LTE area with a strong signal but cannot connect

Some LTE devices just do not want to connect to LTE. With the EVO LTE, some of our members have complained that they even stood next to a confirmed operating LTE site and the 4G icon would not appear. For most of these folks though, cycling from CDMA/LTE mode, back to CDMA only mode and then back to CDMA/LTE mode forces the phone to look for a LTE signal. This has worked for most people I have talked with who have an EVO LTE and know they are in a strong LTE signal area. This also seems to help some other LTE devices sometimes.

There most likely is an issue where these devices are not scanning for LTE service like they should be. When you go out of CDMA/LTE mode and then come back in, the first thing the device does is scan for LTE service. Hopefully, Sprint will get an OTA out that fixes this issue soon.

I can connect to LTE but it goes back to 3G EVDO

Other members have discussed how they can connect to 4G LTE, whether automatically or by forcing it (as described above), but it goes back to 3G EVDO. They cannot keep a Sprint LTE connection. This may happen right away, or this may happen as they drive down the road, or after they pick up the device.

By the best we can tell, this is being caused by the LTE signal thresholds programmed in the device(s). When your device is in CDMA/LTE mode, it seeks LTE first. If it finds LTE, it should connect, but if it doesn't have a strong enough signal, it shunts the user off to 3G, sometimes in seconds. The devices have a minimum LTE signal programmed in them (it appears to be somewhere in the midrange and could be slightly different between devices).

If the LTE minimum signal that is programmed is maintained, the device stays connected to LTE, no problems in most instances. So if you have a strong LTE signal after you connect, you will most likely keep it. However, if you have a midrange LTE signal, you will likely get bumped back down to 3G EVDO if you should move farther away from the signal, or maybe even pick up the device. Most devices will drop a few dBm of signal when being held, and it could be enough to move you back down to 3G.

If you have a weak LTE signal, then you are almost doomed. You will not likely be able to stay connected to LTE for very long and most likely be shunted back to 3G pretty quickly. An exception to this we noted is if you are also in a weak 3G area. But if you have a strong 3G signal and a weak LTE signal, you are most likely not going to be able stay connected with the current thresholds programmed.

What can Sprint do?

I know this is very frustrating for most of you. We all want it to work flawlessly. But this is part of the process. Sprint needs our constructive feedback so they can make changes. There are drawbacks to being early adopters.

That is the point of this article. To wrap up some meaningful and thoughtful feedback from our members into a single comprehensive piece and give to Sprint for them to work on. As well as educate our members and readers into some of the information we have been able to determine.

Sprint, please work with your OEM's right away on OTA's to adjust the thresholds for keeping LTE signals, as well as addressing the cycling through CDMA only mode to get devices to make initial LTE connection. One key point that I hear over and over again is that LTE customers would rather have a weak LTE signal than a strong 3G signal. Weak LTE still performs better than even good 3G in most instances.

If anyone from Sprint would like to reach out to me and provide any updates of what they are doing to address the problem, I would love to receive a PM, email or Direct Message on Twitter. I will then be happy to provide an update for our members and readers.

What can we do now?

With WiMax devices, we could actually change the WiMax signal threshold ourselves. However, we have not been able to locate anywhere in the LTE devices where that can be done. So we are in a waiting position to see if Sprint will help us.

If you absolutely cannot connect to LTE or stay connected to LTE, you can force your device into LTE only mode. If you do this, you will lose access to 3G EVDO and 1x services while in this mode. But it is reversible at any time. It requires your device's MSL code, though. You can get your MSL code by using some apps like MSL Reader, or by using a Terminal Emulator with some models. You can search the web for ways to get your MSL code of your particular device. Some people can even get it from Sprint CSR's.

Once you have your MSL code, go into your phone dialer and enter ##DATA# (*#*#DATA#*#* on the Galaxy Nexus). A menu will open and ask you to select Edit or View. Select Edit. Enter your MSL number. Now in each device, there may be some variability in the next steps. Select the Others button, then choose HDR/1X selection. Select LTE Only mode. Now you will only be able to connect to LTE, no 3G or 1x. However, you will not be able to make/receive phone calls or text in this mode. Data only.

Once in LTE Only mode, you will only be able to connect to LTE signals. Even weak LTE signals. And you will not have to worry about getting shoved off into 3G. This will allow you to test your LTE, and make sure your LTE is indeed working in your device. You could stay parked in this mode if you wanted to. You just wouldn't be able to use the phone or text. To restore to normal, just go back in the same way and select LTE/CDMA or LTE/CDMA/EVDO, depending on your device.

If going into LTE only mode you are still unable to connect to LTE, then you are either not in LTE coverage like you thought you were, or your device has a problem.

This is all we know at this time. We will update with more information as we learn it. Thank you to all who helped gather this information from the field. You guys are what make S4GRU an awesome place!
 
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And those maps shows how the coverage should be when the market aka town is complete its already stated that houston is probably maybe 20% complete now u can't have that coverage with just 20% just calm down and look at the bright side halftruthteller lol jk by the time sprint gets to the Chicago area Houston should be like 50 or 60%

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It's funny that you say this. I just checked s4gru's running list, and we're actually more complete than ANY of the launch markets. Chicago is 35% complete according to the list vs. 20% in Atlanta, the most-complete launch market. And it's not scheduled to launch here for another two months! By then, we might be 50-60% complete at this rate.
 
Probably because were bigger than atl and has more of a dense population not to mention the size but I think along the lines if mid August early September for chi town lte

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I was just in Chicago last weekend, so I switched my SG3 to LTE... Never once saw it pick up the signal. So who knows what's going on...
 
Oh course the 4g is going to be spotty they just launched it. Verizon 4g was spotty when i had the thunderbolt and it took a while for a stabled 4g connection it takes times to complete

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when i spoke to sprint about the lte lite up, they told me it will be a gradual process. be patient. it will be turned up within the next month. they cant just turn it up full blast. it's coming guys.
 
Somebody told me not to write checks that you can't cash. This is what Sprint did point blank period. 2 weeks since the supposed "launch" and still no signal or a stable signal. Only 14% complete with NV in Houston. However, I must say that I have noticed a great boost in data speed and thats a good thing.
 
I must say that I have noticed a great boost in data speed and thats a good thing.

Wow. Something positive? Nice!

Only 14% complete with NV in Houston.

Question: If it were raining and only 14% of your new roof was complete... would you expect to be able to walk freely around your house without getting wet?

Just imagine when it's 100% complete.....
 
Wow. Something positive? Nice!



Question: If it were raining and only 14% of your new roof was complete... would you expect to be able to walk freely around your house without getting wet?

Just imagine when it's 100% complete.....

One of Sprints execs. lied and stated that millions of us can now enjoy a "seamless" experience when using our phones now. Lesson to be learned. don't write checks that cannot be cashed. Id rather a press release thanking us for being patient and letting us know its being work on.
 
Wow. Something positive? Nice!



Question: If it were raining and only 14% of your new roof was complete... would you expect to be able to walk freely around your house without getting wet?

Just imagine when it's 100% complete.....

Dude clearly u don't get it! When the htc thunderbolt came out i didn't have 4g right away it took months for Verizon to have their 4G stabled it wasn't evn 100% complete bcuz when i would my house to go to work it was constantly switching between 4g and 3g none stop to the point i just switched my phone to 3g so like i said be patient it takes time plus they just lunched it u can't expect it to be 100% complete already if that's the case AT&T and Verizon would be neck and neck with who has the most 4g cities right now and their not!

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