Sprint Tri-Band LTE Phone Discussion Thread aka Sprint Spark

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My Question is.... Do we need to get Lawyers. They still don't acknowledge this issue publicly. They Deleted my threads on the Sprint Website, and Banned my account from posting when I made open threads with that info. I still haven't gotten a resolution either. I've called multipule times and told them "I know whats wrong.... And I know its not completely your fault (I.e. Sprint).but to continue to sweep under the rug... And Activley hide info from Users is just wrong. I feel almost that the mother of all Class Actions could be brought up. Each a Separate Filling 1.) Sprint actively offering Lemon Devices in Interim Network Areas, while acting as if nothing is wrong when they KNOW, and also the. Underhanded act of keeping users in the dark when Info Is presented to them 2.) Phone Manufacture I.E. HTC Samsung whoever, for putting out Devices that were known to be incapable of Functioning to standard of Service Availbe on current networks. Not acknowledging issue openly with customers. 3.) Google (who own Android if I'm not mistaken) for not acknolwdging a problem with these devices. Keeping consumers in Dark. (I feel they could have implimented software in the phone that had it check between the two bands even while in standby .
It was a vicious cycle when I got into all this.
Sprint Said Call HTC
HTC Said it was Software Call Sprint
Sprint Said Google Gives us Software Call Them
Google Says HTC gives them ....ect ect ect.

I use maybe 100 minutes in a month if I'm lucky.
Last month I used 2400****Minutes. I am disabled due to Cancer, so I don't work.... but the Griffin mental exhaustion was unbelieveable.
So what You Guys think? Grounds for the largest Lawsuit in History?

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Ryan
My Htc one m8 in San Diego worked pathetically. As I had said before, the coverage didn't exist. It went from 4g to barely 3g or nothing. Many calls dropped. Even with a 3g reading on my phone, I couldn't get to update my apps or use credit card processing without much hassle. Back to the s3. Everything works well. The csr at the sprint store charged for returning a phone that doesn't work in my area. And he said that he didn't understand my issues. Of course not. They would be out of business if this was a retail chain. Didn't Dan Hesse come from a failing AT&T?

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Well duck,

There is a difference between a lack of connection, and a loaded network. In high pop. Areas the load on the network by number of users and also the ISP's network quality in the area can affect data speeds and connections. Where I live our Cable company is suddenlink. Now suddenlink hosts the hard infrastructure for the Carriers, but at the same time, a diffrent carrier may have a diffrent agreement with the isp. Just how you or I would pay for either a 10mb down 1.5mb up connection or a 50mbdown and 50mb up connection. Unfortunately there are a lot of factors that go into determining the actual service from a Cellular carrier, but there isn't much transparency from the company to the end user. All I could think is that the S3 is using a diffrent Antenna than said M8, and even though your using same network, the Tech behind the antennas will provide diffrent connection optimization.

I'm extremely frustrated with my issue. I don't want a diffrent device, but if the Lte 4G router that they are providing me for free till updates are made in my area dosent work, that's about my only option.

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At home I have to use the Airave router. And that's only 3g. But that is a different issue.The M8 wouldn't work well with the Airave either. That phone was switched to 3g only or LTE/3g. Perhaps the m8 would need a router with tri band capability? I'm not sure. My S3 works very well with it. Perhaps they're going in the right direction. But the left doesn't seem to be talking to the right hand. Good luck.
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This was in Costa Mesa, CA
 

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Haha, you dont even want to see mine.
Fist one is from data with cdma/lte turned on. Second is my home WiFi. I pay for 50down Nd 3 up.

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LTE in Greenville, SC

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Haha, you dont even want to see mine.
Fist one is from data with cdma/lte turned on. Second is my home WiFi. I pay for 50down Nd 3 up.

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LTE in Greenville, SC

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These are from band 25, not band 41 Spark.

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However do you know what band they're using?

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Because I've never seen anything lower than 35mbps on band 41, so those speeds point out to regular LTE on band 25.

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Pretty good speed in walton kentucky!!
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These are from band 25, not band 41 Spark.

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Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that star/cross symbol in the notification bar mean your connected to spark? Which
Uses the 3 different lte bands?

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Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that star/cross symbol in the notification bar mean your connected to spark? Which uses the 3 different lte bands?

You are wrong. ;)
If spinning, you are receiving and sending on any band of LTE.
"Spark" is the corporate name for the availability of all 3 bands.
This app will tell you which Sprint band you are on:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...ls?id=com.blueline.signalcheck&token=iR8yl7vB

Mav. :cool:

P.S. This (free) app also will tell what Sprint Band you are on:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...et.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&token=uYO9WptC

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Because I've never seen anything lower than 35mbps on band 41, so those speeds point out to regular LTE on band 25.

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band 41 can go as low as 5Mbps down with .05Mbps up if you have bad single. Upload tanks real fast on abnd 41 since cell phone can't send 2.5ghz signal well. I have seen 12/.05Mbps on band 41 due to barely having any signal.

You are wrong. ;)
If spinning, you are receiving and sending on any band of LTE.
"Spark" is the corporate name for the availability of all 3 bands.
This app will tell you which Sprint band you are on:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...ls?id=com.blueline.signalcheck&token=8PhgFJ1J

Mav. :cool:

P.S. This (free) app also will tell what Sprint Band you are on:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...et.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&token=w6iZ9A-t

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##DEBUG# works too. depending on phone.
 

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band 41 can go as low as 5Mbps down with .05Mbps up if you have bad single. Upload tanks real fast on abnd 41 since cell phone can't send 2.5ghz signal well. I have seen 12/.05Mbps on band 41 due to barely having any signal.



##DEBUG# works too. depending on phone.

Never seen or heard of this.... Must see it to think otherwise.

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Never seen or heard of this.... Must see it to think otherwise.

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think about it....your dealing with a very high frequency and a handset that can only send a very weak signal...if your at borderline the weaker power source will tank the most.

now you can see
you can see at the same place and time
Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results
and how a little drop in signal when you already had borderline signal makes it tank hard in the upload because the device has a hard time because of lack of power.
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/684793414

FIXED THIS SORRY FOR THAT


Now one where you barely have enough to stay connected. Still good download.....very very bad upload
Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results
 
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think about it....your dealing with a very high frequency and a handset that can only send a very weak signal...if your at borderline the weaker power source will tank the most.

now you can see
you can see at the same place and time
Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results
and how a little drop in signal when you already had borderline signal makes it tank hard in the upload because the device has a hard time because of lack of power.
Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results

Now one where you barely have enough to stay connected. Still good download.....very very bad upload
Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results

I pulled 55mbps the other day on two bars, when I drove a bit and was toggling between 0-1 bars for an area, I was still pulling 32-34mbps. That is consistent with everyone else I've seen (in person) with Spark.

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I pulled 55mbps the other day on two bars, when I drove a bit and was toggling between 0-1 bars for an area, I was still pulling 32-34mbps. That is consistent with everyone else I've seen (in person) with Spark.

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Well in person means it's the same area you're in... Versus someone being in another state and having that weak signal which causes weak speeds.

I would hope the people around you on the same towers, location, etc. could pull the same speeds.. Otherwise that would be very odd... But for people in different areas and states the weak signal could easily provide less bandwidth than what you're used to seeing in your area.

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I pulled 55mbps the other day on two bars, when I drove a bit and was toggling between 0-1 bars for an area, I was still pulling 32-34mbps. That is consistent with everyone else I've seen (in person) with Spark.

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Sprint defines spark as carrier aggregation in b41 in addition to b25 and b26.

The snapdragon 800/801/805 is only capable of dual band carrier aggregation AND 2-10mhz carriers maximum. So you can't aggregate the 20mhz b41 with anything. For reference, the note 3 uses the 800. S5,m8,and g3 the 801. The 805 hasn't been released yet.

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