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You guys are phone nerds, of course you like Android. The average person like how the iPhone just plain works the second you turn it on.

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Except when it doesn't. I have two iPhone users in my house, so I hear about it every time it doesn't "just work".
Pretty much the same amount my Android doesn't "just work"

iOS is for people who are afraid that clicking on the wrong thing will make their phone stop working.
 

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Android is as simple or complex as one wants it to be. HTC One works right out of the box. One advantage the iPhone has over others is lack of carrier bloat, however I have been running Android Revolution (4.2.2 with HTC Sense 4) for a few weeks now, and it's excellent. No carrier bloat and still has the simplicity it had when it was fresh out of the box. An advantage of Android is the ability to run Tor fully, the bigger screen sizes,(I find 4.7" to be ideal) and apps can intergrate with each other. Of course the major egg on Android's face is Samsung. ;)
 

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You guys are phone nerds, of course you like Android. The average person like how the iPhone just plain works the second you turn it on.

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Can someone PLEASE tell me how an Android doesn't work when you first turn it on?!?!?!? That's driving me absolutely insane when I see people say that. I've owned 3 Androids and i've never had them not work when I turn them on unless the battery is dead. Both systems require a login or two in order to get all your personal info loaded (iTunes/Gmail).
 

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Nexus phones are an easy fix for bloat as well. My T-Mobile Nexus 4 came with not a single bloat app installed.

I understand that, however not everybody buys unsubsidized phones. Unfortunately TMobile's service is spotty where I live and places I go (I tried it) so I am stuck paying subsidized carrier pricing (or at least until they offer the same survives for less money on their pay as you go plans). If I am going to pay subsidized pricing, you can bet your *** that I am going to get them to subsidize. Thus the carrier bloat, thus Android Revolution, plus I got 4.2.2. ;)
 

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I understand that, however not everybody buys unsubsidized phones.
Everybody can now. At least on T-Mobile. The days of being forced to commit to a contract or put up with bloatware just to get financing on your new phone are over.

I fully expect other carriers to follow.

Unfortunately TMobile's service is spotty where and live and places I go
It is. It is not as good as Verizon but far better than I expected it to be. I have not had any problems getting coverage in Denver.

Verizon does have the best coverage. But in every other way they are a big fail. TMobile's customer service was a lot better. Their website is easier to use. They are significantly cheaper. I am getting unlimited-everything (including anytime minutes) for $70/month without throttling. Getting that on Verizon would be well over $100.
 

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Everybody can now. At least on T-Mobile. The days of being forced to commit to a contract or put up with bloatware just to get financing on your new phone are over.

I fully expect other carriers to follow.


It is. It is not as good as Verizon but far better than I expected it to be. I have not had any problems getting coverage in Denver.

Verizon does have the best coverage. But in every other way they are a big fail. TMobile's customer service was a lot better. Their website is easier to use. They are significantly cheaper. I am getting unlimited-everything (including anytime minutes) for $70/month without throttling. Getting that on Verizon would be well over $100.

I have friends and colleagues that live in the Houston area, and they swear by and love TMobile. Wife's daughter lives in Houston, and we plan on making our way over there in a few years. I wanted TMobile to work. I even got a phone to try it out. It didn't, so I stayed with AT&T, and the day the minimum $100 trade in went live, I got an HTC One.

One problem with your Verizon comparison, on TMobile you have unlimited 4G for $70, unless you're grandfathered, Verizion is limited.
 

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In my opinion it boils down to what you are familiar with. I have never owned an iAnything and don't find them simple to use at all. Anytime I try I feel totally lost. Android on the other hand seems like a no-brainer. Even my 72yo Dad figured it out when he got his first Droid phone. Like others have said, choices are nice to have.
 

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Doesn't that small screen bother you when you are comparing to many of the phones today with a more adult sized screen.

Can't speak for Mamutarka, but I'll say that I still prefer the iPhone 4S's size in my hand compared to my Nexus 4. Yes, I am that lone weirdo who prefers the smaller screen size. I'm getting close to swapping my main sim over to the Nexus 4 but when I'm walking around it really is much more convenient to pull my iPhone out of my pocket and tap out a quick reply to a text message or email with one than it is to pull out the Nexus 4 and awkwardly try to use the keyboard or just stop completely and use it in two hands. For some reason the screen size just doesn't do it for me.

Although both devices work "out of the box" I'll admit that I still feel like I liked the default configuration of my iPhone better than the default configuration of the Nexus 4. Yeah, in the end the Nexus 4 can be tweaked to hell but a lot of people just don't want to mess with settings. I like that notifications stay on the lock screen on the iPhone, but I know that you can accomplish something similar through lock screen apps on the Nexus 4. I firmly believe most users don't want to mess with their phone, though. Most people probably will not go that far beyond whatever settings the phone came with. For a lot of those people iOS is appealing.
 

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Can't speak for Mamutarka, but I'll say that I still prefer the iPhone 4S's size in my hand compared to my Nexus 4. Yes, I am that lone weirdo who prefers the smaller screen size. I'm getting close to swapping my main sim over to the Nexus 4 but when I'm walking around it really is much more convenient to pull my iPhone out of my pocket and tap out a quick reply to a text message or email with one than it is to pull out the Nexus 4 and awkwardly try to use the keyboard or just stop completely and use it in two hands. For some reason the screen size just doesn't do it for me.

Although both devices work "out of the box" I'll admit that I still feel like I liked the default configuration of my iPhone better than the default configuration of the Nexus 4. Yeah, in the end the Nexus 4 can be tweaked to hell but a lot of people just don't want to mess with settings. I like that notifications stay on the lock screen on the iPhone, but I know that you can accomplish something similar through lock screen apps on the Nexus 4. I firmly believe most users don't want to mess with their phone, though. Most people probably will not go that far beyond whatever settings the phone came with. For a lot of those people iOS is appealing.

Since the iPhones design goes back quite a few years, I guess you just like "retro" looking stuff.
 

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Sounds like a possible hardware problem to me. That is definitely not normal. The beeps make me think something is up as well.

My battery had been able to hold a charge awesomely. I do not even lose 1% of the charge overnight. It holds a charge better than any other phone I have had so far.

Yep - same here. I get phenomenal battery performance when in sleep. I would guess something software wise has run amok - also possible hardware failure, I guess.
 

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One more thing I noticed, I get 4hrs SOT on n4, with disabled location services and notifications and low brightness, on iP5 I have almost 8h of usage and still 40% left (3G+4G+wifi)..pretty impressive
 

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You guys are phone nerds, of course you like Android. The average person like how the iPhone just plain works the second you turn it on.

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You know, you don't have to stop coming to an Android forum just because you are going to be using an iPhone. I think there are many people here and on other phone forums that don't necessarily use the phone that the forum is about.
 

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You know, you don't have to stop coming to an Android forum just because you are going to be using an iPhone. I think there are many people here and on other phone forums that don't necessarily use the phone that the forum is about.

This. You are always welcome at android central. I am glad you found a device you are satisfied with, and if it is what you desire, the team over at iMore is a great one.

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THANK you. I am also a goto guy for iFriends who have problems with their phone that "just works".

But, when that happens you have an Apple store that will replace the device on the spot. With android you deal with some company in korea or china, or deal with insurion insurance and they have to mail you a refurb, and then you have to get your non working device back within 10 days or they hit your credit card for full retail price.

Again, Apple store = more simple.
 

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Pages of icons. That's... It...

One button. Not four, or three, or two.
While iOS may well be 'simpler' than Android, this does not make the case. At least as far as I'm concerned, I think that having a dedicated back button makes things simpler, not more complicated.

My battery had been able to hold a charge awesomely. I do not even lose 1% of the charge overnight. It holds a charge better than any other phone I have had so far.
The Nexus 4 does *hold* charge well. When being actually used, battery life could be better. But I always carry an external portable charger with me, as I'm a little paranoid about battery life, so this isn't a big issue with me.

And the other flip of the coin is, apple knows if they were to open imessage and facetime to other platforms they would lose SO MANY users.
Truer words were never spoken. The difference in approach for Google and Apple is noteworthy. Apple makes money from a closed system, and focuses on locking users in. Google, on the other hand, makes data its business, and opens up its apps to other platforms. Hangouts, Maps, Drive, Gmail are all apps available on iOS. By letting iOS users use Google apps without being on Google's platform, Google gets to collect more data - data it uses for targeted advertising - and advertisers find that invaluable and worth paying Google big bucks for. Google is basically getting Apple's customers' data - probably more than Apple is - and there is not a thing Apple can do about it.
 
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