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    So i read on a few reliable Android news sites and the Verizon site that they are finally rolling out the update to Jelly bean for the S3.i have the SCH-1535 model and it seems like I've been waiting for ever for this update. However, iam a bit hesitant about it.
    I have a couple questions about it that I would really appreciate if you guys can help me with.
    First off, will I need to use Kies to get the update or can I do it over the air? I don't have a functioning laptop right now. Also, when I do this update is it going to delete my home screen setups and layout? I've spent a long time getting them setup the way I like and don't want to have to do it again (though I have taken screen shots to try to remember it just in case).
    For those of you who already have jellybean; is it really worth it? Or should I just keep ICS?
    I have been excited for this update but iam still worried that I won't like it and wish I had kept ICS.
    My S3 is NOT rooted by the way.
    Can you guys give me some advice on this? The update is supposedly going to roll out by this weekend.
    Should I do it or not?
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    Whether you choose to or not is your choice. I rooted mine so I could turn it down. I'm going to wait until there aren't any bugs before I do it. I'll also do a factory reset prior to downloading it if I do. They say it's going to be WiFi, so no Kies required.
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    I don't know the answers to most of your questions but I saw a posting that the update will be OTA
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalizDad View Post
    Whether you choose to or not is your choice. I rooted mine so I could turn it down. I'm going to wait until there aren't any bugs before I do it. I'll also do a factory reset prior to downloading it if I do. They say it's going to be WiFi, so no Kies required.
    See that is the thing, i've heard that it has alot of bugs which makes me feel hesitant. But I can choose to not download if I don't want to right?
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    I'm not sure if Verizon will force it upon you or not, but if you root your device you should be able to decline it. I'm declining it because some people like the 3rd build, and others say it drains the battery, and freezes the screen. It's all over the forums on other sites.
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    If you are hesitant to update because of the problems you have mentioned then I wouldn't get to excited, jump the gun and install it.
    Wait a week or so and follow all the threads that will be posted on this site to see what the bugs are and the advantages are.
    I think that's what I am going to do because I don't think there is any going back to ICS.
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    As of now, Verizon seems to have yanked that page and replaced it with the last update we got. I wonder if someone didn't hack their website...Google Plus instead of Google Now, onscreen buttons in the pics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholi2789 View Post
    So i read on a few reliable Android news sites and the Verizon site that they are finally rolling out the update to Jelly bean for the S3.i have the SCH-1535 model and it seems like I've been waiting for ever for this update. However, iam a bit hesitant about it.
    I have a couple questions about it that I would really appreciate if you guys can help me with.
    First off, will I need to use Kies to get the update or can I do it over the air? I don't have a functioning laptop right now. Also, when I do this update is it going to delete my home screen setups and layout? I've spent a long time getting them setup the way I like and don't want to have to do it again (though I have taken screen shots to try to remember it just in case).
    For those of you who already have jellybean; is it really worth it? Or should I just keep ICS?
    I have been excited for this update but iam still worried that I won't like it and wish I had kept ICS.
    My S3 is NOT rooted by the way.
    Can you guys give me some advice on this? The update is supposedly going to roll out by this weekend.
    Should I do it or not?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholi2789 View Post
    See that is the thing, i've heard that it has alot of bugs which makes me feel hesitant. But I can choose to not download if I don't want to right?
    You don't always get a choice...some updates you can delay for a certain amount of time, but are eventually forced. I'm running the current leak, and think it runs great, FWIW.

    If you REALLY want a clean install, I actually think that installing via KIES is a better option (if you're able to) or doing a factory reset prior to installing. I know that's a pain in the you-know-what, but it can prevent a lot of those "bugs" associated with major updates like this. At the very least, I'd be ready to accept the fact you may have to do a factory reset after installing the OTA if bugs do pop up.
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    For those worried about bugs/problems, the only concern you should have is with apps being incompatible with the upgrade process. With that said, anti-virus, launchers(such as Nova), and keyboards would be the source of most issues that people would run into. This is why testing doesn't show the problems, because it is only certain apps that cause the update process to have problems.

    The actual release for the AT&T version was GOOD for most people. There are two known issues that even a perfect install seems to be there across the different devices:
    1) Battery life is lower for many, because the screen brightness is MUCH higher after the JB update. Solution is to turn the brightness all the way down(which is still acceptable in most situations)
    2) Filesystem errors on a MicroSD card will cause high CPU usage. Solution that most suggest is to copy the files off the card to a computer, format the card, then copy the files back to the card.

    Those are the only two big issues. Again, if an app you have breaks during the update process, it COULD cause issues. Doing a factory restore after the update and then re-installing the apps you want will resolve any problems that show up due to the update process.
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    Hopefully it won't suck the battery too much I'm excited for project butter and Google now the most I have nova prime hopefully it won't mess that up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzo1992 View Post
    Hopefully it won't suck the battery too much I'm excited for project butter and Google now the most I have nova prime hopefully it won't mess that up

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    I have a question. What if I use Kies to back up my data (contacts, messages, call log, email settings, etc) before I update to Jelly bean, do a factory reset, then update to JB, then sync my old data up, will that work?

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    62MB for JB huh? That's a record, especially with all the bloatware you KNOW Verizon is going to put in there. All the other phones have been 250-300MB for the JB update. 62MB was the exact same size as the VRALHE Update... Damn you ASHTON!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky223 View Post
    Please excuse my ignorance. What is project butter?
    Project butter just makes everything smoother like opening apps and scrolling through stuff supposed to be smooth as butter haha just makes everything quicker to

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    I'm wondering if the Verizon pdf file floating around isn't a fake. Can't imagine that Verizon would publish a description of the features of Jelly Bean that incorrectly identifies Google Now as Google Plus. Additionally, the file size seems awfully small for a major update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalizDad View Post
    62MB for JB huh? That's a record, especially with all the bloatware you KNOW Verizon is going to put in there. All the other phones have been 250-300MB for the JB update. 62MB was the exact same size as the VRALHE Update... Damn you ASHTON!!!
    JB is *much* larger...but unfortunately Verizon reverted their link back to the old update since the time most sites (including this one) reported it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailmaker View Post
    I'm wondering if the Verizon pdf file floating around isn't a fake. Can't imagine that Verizon would publish a description of the features of Jelly Bean that incorrectly identifies Google Now as Google Plus. Additionally, the file size seems awfully small for a major update.
    The incorrect info may suggest a fake, but as I mentioned, the PDF was up on Verizon's site for a short period of time...it wasn't a screen grab or anything like that. It has, however, since been taken down and the link now points to details for the previous update. JellyBean update is and will be much larger than 62MB or whatever it says. Perhaps Verizon's site was hacked, or more likely an employee posted the updated page before it was ready to go live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paintdrinkingpete View Post
    JB is *much* larger...but unfortunately Verizon reverted their link back to the old update since the time most sites (including this one) reported it.
    Yeah, I know, I saw the original PDF that was up for about 30 minutes on the Verizon website. The Verizon website said the download was going to be 62MB which made no sense whatsoever. Couple it up wit pics of on-screen buttons and "Google Plus", and it was written off by me. The "Damn you Ashton" is a Punk'd reference...because we got punk'd. Well, some people did. I'm not going to run JB, as I said earlier. I bought that OTA Blocker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalizDad View Post
    Yeah, I know, I saw the original PDF that was up for about 30 minutes on the Verizon website. The Verizon website said the download was going to be 62MB which made no sense whatsoever. Couple it up wit pics of on-screen buttons and "Google Plus", and it was written off by me. The "Damn you Ashton" is a Punk'd reference...because we got punk'd. Well, some people did. I'm not going to run JB, as I said earlier. I bought that OTA Blocker.
    I see one in Google Play that's specifically for this phone and carrier. Root is a prerequisite. Looks like I'll be rooting today Nice tip. I have the same concern that you and others have voiced around " The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" that comes with any new update. Notice any issues with the OTA Blocker thus far?
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    I see one in Google Play that's specifically for this phone and carrier. Root is a prerequisite. Looks like I'll be rooting today Nice tip. I have the same concern that you and others have voiced around " The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" that comes with any new update. Notice any issues with the OTA Blocker thus far?
    There's no way to block root on un-rooted phones, because there's no way to "freeze" the processes that check for updates without it. I'm assuming the app just does what many of us have already done manually, which is to rename the .apk file(s) that the system uses to check for updates so they can't run. I couldn't imagine there would be any way to know if there were any "issues" with the app until an update actually arrives.

    As I've mentioned on other threads, a huge majority of the "bugs" reported after updates are the result of app and user data on device, and not the update itself. OTA's are basically what root-users would refer to as a "dirty flash", meaning that the update is applied directly over top the existing configuration without clearing any user data first. The advantage to doing it this way is that all your apps and settings and such are retained during the update process, but the disadvantage is that often that data is incompatible with the new OS and causes your device to become "buggy". I assure Verizon (and other carriers) do this because the average user certainly doesn't want to factory reset each time they run an update (forcing you to set your device up all over again), however doing that would eliminate a LOT of issues folks have. I highly recommend all non-rooted users do a factory reset prior to applying an OTA update (and think that carriers should at the very least put out info on how to do it for their users)...but I also know that 99.9% of folks probably don't. Instead what happens is people install the OTA, have issues, call Verizon tech support, *then* they suggest you factory reset.

    As someone who's running the current leak right now, I will say that it's actually pretty freakin' stable and runnin' like a champ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog5000 View Post
    I see one in Google Play that's specifically for this phone and carrier. Root is a prerequisite. Looks like I'll be rooting today Nice tip. I have the same concern that you and others have voiced around " The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" that comes with any new update. Notice any issues with the OTA Blocker thus far?
    None yet...I haven't had an update thrown my way since I bought it. It only blocks OTA's from Verizon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paintdrinkingpete View Post
    There's no way to block root on un-rooted phones, because there's no way to "freeze" the processes that check for updates without it. I'm assuming the app just does what many of us have already done manually, which is to rename the .apk file(s) that the system uses to check for updates so they can't run. I couldn't imagine there would be any way to know if there were any "issues" with the app until an update actually arrives.

    As I've mentioned on other threads, a huge majority of the "bugs" reported after updates are the result of app and user data on device, and not the update itself. OTA's are basically what root-users would refer to as a "dirty flash", meaning that the update is applied directly over top the existing configuration without clearing any user data first. The advantage to doing it this way is that all your apps and settings and such are retained during the update process, but the disadvantage is that often that data is incompatible with the new OS and causes your device to become "buggy". I assure Verizon (and other carriers) do this because the average user certainly doesn't want to factory reset each time they run an update (forcing you to set your device up all over again), however doing that would eliminate a LOT of issues folks have. I highly recommend all non-rooted users do a factory reset prior to applying an OTA update (and think that carriers should at the very least put out info on how to do it for their users)...but I also know that 99.9% of folks probably don't. Instead what happens is people install the OTA, have issues, call Verizon tech support, *then* they suggest you factory reset.

    As someone who's running the current leak right now, I will say that it's actually pretty freakin' stable and runnin' like a champ.
    And those who flashed the leaked GB update on the T-Bolts didn't have a problem either. It was the "official" OTA that screwed the T-Bolts...just like Sprint with a lot of the S2's (I was a victim of that one) But, for the millionth time, not everyone will experience the same results. Some people will be happy, some people will be mad. No 2 phones are identical. That's why custom ROMs work differently for everyone. My phone is PERFECT right now and everything works including the cut and paste, I get no "no sim" warnings, no "sd card unmounted" no frozen screens, have perfect reception, etc. Why on earth would I want to take a chance screwing that up? Sometimes it's the apps, and sometimes it's the carrier update. When I do decide to take it, I will do a factory reset first, pull the battery, and reboot. I've been rotting and ROMing phones since the Hero came out (aka Verizon Eris) and not just my phones. I know a little. The S3 is the first phone I've had for stock more than a day. I'm pleased with it, so I'm not changing it. I couldn't care less about Google Now, or JB because of TW. If I was running AOSP, yes, I'd want JB. I'm sure that I'll root my S3 in another 6 months or so, and start messing with ROMs...I'll just make sure I have a Note 2 sitting on my nightstand as my primary device when I do it. Right now, I only have my S3 and it's the first time I've only had one phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paintdrinkingpete View Post
    There's no way to block root on un-rooted phones, because there's no way to "freeze" the processes that check for updates without it. I'm assuming the app just does what many of us have already done manually, which is to rename the .apk file(s) that the system uses to check for updates so they can't run. I couldn't imagine there would be any way to know if there were any "issues" with the app until an update actually arrives.

    As I've mentioned on other threads, a huge majority of the "bugs" reported after updates are the result of app and user data on device, and not the update itself. OTA's are basically what root-users would refer to as a "dirty flash", meaning that the update is applied directly over top the existing configuration without clearing any user data first. The advantage to doing it this way is that all your apps and settings and such are retained during the update process, but the disadvantage is that often that data is incompatible with the new OS and causes your device to become "buggy". I assure Verizon (and other carriers) do this because the average user certainly doesn't want to factory reset each time they run an update (forcing you to set your device up all over again), however doing that would eliminate a LOT of issues folks have. I highly recommend all non-rooted users do a factory reset prior to applying an OTA update (and think that carriers should at the very least put out info on how to do it for their users)...but I also know that 99.9% of folks probably don't. Instead what happens is people install the OTA, have issues, call Verizon tech support, *then* they suggest you factory reset.

    As someone who's running the current leak right now, I will say that it's actually pretty freakin' stable and runnin' like a champ.
    Appreciate the additional perspective. Understand about the ability to detect issues until the OTA Blocker is actually invoked, I was just checking if there were any general issues installing, etc. Your PSA announcement was also good reading and helpful. I just rooted via the process here Problems rooting on Mac...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalizDad View Post
    None yet...I haven't had an update thrown my way since I bought it. It only blocks OTA's from Verizon.
    Cool, thanks for confirming. Since I'm running VRLHE, the OTA Blocker does not support this build. Nice intent and app, though, and I have it just in case the developers update it to support VRLHE in the future. I'm trying the Superuser "ota survival" mode right now.
    If I get more free time (I'm supposed to be doing a bunch of house projects right now), I will investigate the manual file editing options that I ran across recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog5000 View Post
    Cool, thanks for confirming. Since I'm running VRLHE, the OTA Blocker does not support this build. Nice intent and app, though, and I have it just in case the developers update it to support VRLHE in the future. I'm trying the Superuser "ota survival" mode right now.
    If I get more free time (I'm supposed to be doing a bunch of house projects right now), I will investigate the manual file editing options that I ran across recently.
    That's one of the weird things about different phones...It loaded right up on mine, and I'm running LHE. Maybe try rebooting your phone and reloading it again? Someone else in the comments said it didn't run after their first update. I do not know definitively yet whether or not it will actually work though. If JB gets crammed down my throat, oh well. Hopefully JB works if it does, or I'll break contract with Verizon and go elsewhere. $350.00 really isn't a lot of money to me for a phone that works. Maybe going back to Sprint is in my future again, or T-Mob if Carly comes with the package...lol
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