10-17-2019 04:11 PM
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  1. lostsoul2's Avatar
    As a Pixel 3 XL owner There have been many likes and some dislikes as with all phones. I love taking pics of family and take many. Thats the main thing for me. Today I when to google to check out and was about to order the upgrade. I was about to and I just could not do it..

    1) They only offered $260 bucks for my clean and perfect 3xl (which if I remember is less then last year).

    2) 64gig memory sucks

    3) Price is just too high for out dated CPU

    4) Then find out the unlimited photo back is gone/ Also, they made it hard if not impossible to back up all pic/vid to your PC from there.

    5) Going to their ordering site was like navigation through a Politically Correct college website. I never seen someone selling a new product work so hard to post gay,lbgtqr, Muslim. There are people of all types out there and I get it but this was a little much in your face. Then it gets back to the political conflicts with Google censoring and rigging searches. I just dont know if I can support that anymore. Either way they will make money from android

    6) I agree with other here the battery should have been bigger. I should be find of them doing like apple and making it a tad thicker.

    7) One of the best feature of the 3xl was the front speakers. Why why why. they can keep the radar and leave the speakers.

    Over all I think I'm going to wait for the s11 to come out in 3-4 months. I had the s7 before and liked it except for the damn curved screen when got busted easy.. =-/
    10-15-2019 01:39 PM
  2. HyperM3's Avatar
    As a Pixel 3 XL owner There have been many likes and some dislikes as with all phones. I love taking pics of family and take many. Thats the main thing for me. Today I when to google to check out and was about to order the upgrade. I was about to and I just could not do it..

    1) They only offered $260 bucks for my clean and perfect 3xl (which if I remember is less then last year).

    2) 64gig memory sucks

    3) Price is just too high for out dated CPU

    4) Then find out the unlimited photo back is gone/ Also, they made it hard if not impossible to back up all pic/vid to your PC from there.

    5) Going to their ordering site was like navigation through a Politically Correct college website. I never seen someone selling a new product work so hard to post gay,lbgtqr, Muslim. There are people of all types out there and I get it but this was a little much in your face. Then it gets back to the political conflicts with Google censoring and rigging searches. I just dont know if I can support that anymore. Either way they will make money from android

    6) I agree with other here the battery should have been bigger. I should be find of them doing like apple and making it a tad thicker.

    7) One of the best feature of the 3xl was the front speakers. Why why why. they can keep the radar and leave the speakers.

    Over all I think I'm going to wait for the s11 to come out in 3-4 months. I had the s7 before and liked it except for the damn curved screen when got busted easy.. =-/
    For the first time since the Nexus 1, I am not upgrading to the newest model Google phone.
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    10-15-2019 01:43 PM
  3. kolyan2k's Avatar
    For the first time since the Nexus 1, I am not upgrading to the newest model Google phone.
    2nd time for me. I passed on Nexus S as well. I might get P4 later, it could be free for me. I was expecting 500-600 tradein price but 225 isn't going to cut it
    10-15-2019 01:51 PM
  4. HyperM3's Avatar
    2nd time for me. I passed on Nexus S as well. I might get P4 later, it could be free for me. I was expecting 500-600 tradein price but 225 isn't going to cut it
    I'll wait for black Friday deals and see what they offer. I'm actually decently happy with my 3xl still.
    10-15-2019 01:53 PM
  5. N4Newbie's Avatar
    I agree about the front speakers. I love them on the 3XL and cannot understand why they are not the de facto default for all phone designs.

    Having said that, I have to admit that 99% of the "serious" listening I do with my phone is through Bluetooth wireless earbuds or Bluetooth over-the-ear headphones. On the rare occasions that I listen to anything other than a brief video clip through the phone's speakers I suppose I can live with something other than front speakers.
    10-15-2019 01:57 PM
  6. ChuckG73's Avatar
    So let me get this straight Samsung will give me 600 dollars for my S10+ and I can get the Note 10+ 5G for 699.

    Google wants to give me $365 for my S10+ and charge me 1000 for a Pixel 4 XL
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    10-15-2019 02:21 PM
  7. ezdoit's Avatar
    So let me get this straight Samsung will give me 600 dollars for my S10+ and I can get the Note 10+ 5G for 699.

    Google wants to give me $365 for my S10+ and charge me 1000 for a Pixel 4 XL
    It is the new math -
    10-15-2019 02:30 PM
  8. Law2138's Avatar
    I just can't do it because Apple significantly closed the gap on photography wars with Google with the iPhone 11.

    I may be petty for saying this, but we all have our own reasons for not buying into the P4.

    1. I am jelly of the experience iPhone users get with the Apple Watch. I want a proper wearable that is supported and offers tight integration.

    2. With the Pixel 3, some callers on the other end can't hear me within the first 5 seconds of a call. I primarily text, so I didn't pursue the manufacturer's warranty options. Hardware can be described as sufficient, but not premium.

    3. Apple is starting to figure out the formula for great images by combining software, machine learning, and hardware.

    4. My kids will be introduced to iPhones when they are ready. Family controls, iMessage, Facetime will serve us better than being fragmented across Android and iOS devices.

    5. 3rd party accessories and cases are plentiful with iPhones.

    6. If support or repair is ever needed, I can visit an Apple store if I choose. If my Pixel breaks, I have to mail it in.

    My home is filled with Google speakers, Google wifi points, chromecasts, Nest Hello, Nest Hub, etc. I love Google services, apps, and the Assistant. My wife can use all if it just fine on her iPhone 7 plus which leads me to believe that I can use an iPhone and still live in the Google ecosystem.
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    10-15-2019 02:31 PM
  9. Wiley_11's Avatar
    Thanks, see what you mean. Would like to comment on that, but it is a lose lose situation.
    Would that make you a lost soul too? The Official : I just cant do it.-embarrassed-smile-smiley-emoticon.gif
    10-15-2019 02:32 PM
  10. ChuckG73's Avatar
    I'm leaning towards a Note 10+ 5g. Is it a better phone then the Pixel 4?
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    10-15-2019 02:32 PM
  11. ezdoit's Avatar
    Would that make you a lost soul too? Click image for larger version. 

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    Not even close.
    10-15-2019 02:37 PM
  12. ezdoit's Avatar
    I'm leaning towards a Note 10+ 5g. Is it a better phone then the Pixel 4?
    Since no one has used the P4, not sure it is a fair question.
    10-15-2019 02:38 PM
  13. neil74's Avatar
    No FPS and most apps are not ready yet for Face ID. Biometrics could have a bumpy start.
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    10-15-2019 02:45 PM
  14. duratime's Avatar
    I was waiting for the One Plus announcement last week before I decided. I'm going with the Pixel 4+. I have been using a Note 10 (not +) and I don't like it at all (size is good). I almost went to an iPhone, but the. I just play with my wife's 10xr and realize, I'm not going the iPhone route. I have had all 3 pixel XLs and they haven't been perfect, but none of these are.
    10-15-2019 02:47 PM
  15. Kingfroman's Avatar
    Wow. 260 for your 3 XL. Shows how much they stand by that overblown price. I guess I'll wait and see if TMobile does any trade in deals for the 3 XL like it did for the Galaxy, iPhone and 7plus. If not I guess I'll wait for the heavy discounts.
    10-15-2019 02:47 PM
  16. Law2138's Avatar
    I was waiting for the One Plus announcement last week before I decided. I'm going with the Pixel 4+. I have been using a Note 10 (not +) and I don't like it at all (size is good). I almost went to an iPhone, but the. I just play with my wife's 10xr and realize, I'm not going the iPhone route. I have had all 3 pixel XLs and they haven't been perfect, but none of these are.
    What was your reason for not biting on the iPhone? Was it the Xr specifically? I am tetering on the iPhone 11 pro or staying with my Pixel 3
    10-15-2019 03:00 PM
  17. maj71303's Avatar
    This ain't it chief.....this is not going to make a dent in the least.

    1. The pixel 4 starting $799 with 64GB, not having even headphones in the box....that ain't gone make it chief. The iPhone 11 comes in at $699 or $629 with Veterans discount.

    2. Trade in prices are just pathetic on all fronts, especially for your own Pixel brand.

    3. In a year when apple put in bigger batteries you come pathetically in with 2800mah and 3500mah for your flagships. You blacking out just like California son.

    4. You don't have any real defining features and you put your engineers on stage and they putting everyone to sleep like jiggly puff. We ain't playin Pokémon Go son yah got to show some energy.

    5. You pricing the same or higher as apple but don't have the accessories and fan base to do it like that. Like Flossy Carter say "Google calm down".

    6. Google needs to bring their releases up to August to get some traction as doing it after everyone else just ain't gone get it done.

    7. I don't know about air swatting flies, air swipes, and this soli stuff but only time will tell. When I say that though I think of LG and we know that didn't help them any either. Bruh I think I already see the next tomb stone in the Google grave yard.
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    10-15-2019 03:13 PM
  18. ezdoit's Avatar
    Samsung will give me 450 for my P3XL 64GB towards a Note 10+

    Google will give me 263 for the same phone towards a Pixel 4 64GB

    Samsung likes me more.
    10-15-2019 03:32 PM
  19. dsignori's Avatar
    ...

    4. You don't have any real defining features and you put your engineers on stage and they putting everyone to sleep like jiggly puff. We ain't playin Pokémon Go son yah got to show some energy.

    ...
    While I agree with many of your other points, I think the 4 does in fact have some nice defining features. Whether they appeal to you or not is another story of course. Things like the Soli gestures, 90Hz display, great camera improvements, much better Google Assistant, etc. These are all nice, tangible improvements.

    That said, I agree with the 2nd part of your #4. They did just a terrible job of showing off some of this and it totally lacked any energy or flair. They made some exciting features (IMO) seem more boring than they really are.
    10-15-2019 03:35 PM
  20. dsignori's Avatar
    Samsung will give me 450 for my P3XL 64GB towards a Note 10+

    Google will give me 263 for the same phone towards a Pixel 4 64GB

    Samsung likes me more.

    This is funny.
    10-15-2019 03:36 PM
  21. ezdoit's Avatar
    This is funny.
    I can get the 4 or the 10+ for just about the same price. Google Fi presents some challenges for the 10+, I know I had one.
    10-15-2019 03:41 PM
  22. maj71303's Avatar
    While I agree with many of your other points, I think the 4 does in fact have some nice defining features. Whether they appeal to you or not is another story of course. Things like the Soli gestures, 90Hz display, great camera improvements, much better Google Assistant, etc. These are all nice, tangible improvements.

    That said, I agree with the 2nd part of your #4. They did just a terrible job of showing off some of this and it totally lacked any energy or flair. They made some exciting features (IMO) seem more boring than they really are.
    That 90Hz display is nice but that battery is going to be the - for that feature. The camera is not going to be leaps and bounds better than the Pixel 3 series so it will not be the end all as Apple and others have done enough to close that gap. Google assistant is debatable deepening on usage.

    Soli gesture will be that cool at first but they will not be defining for the average joe that keeps their phones in their hand a lot. The camera is going to be a improvement but probably not leaps and bounds just cleaning up from the last series.
    10-15-2019 03:46 PM
  23. N4Newbie's Avatar
    I just can't do it because Apple significantly closed the gap on photography wars with Google with the iPhone 11.

    I may be petty for saying this, but we all have our own reasons for not buying into the P4.

    ...

    4. My kids will be introduced to iPhones when they are ready. Family controls, iMessage, Facetime will serve us better than being fragmented across Android and iOS devices.
    ...
    Speaking of family controls... https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...s-childs-play/
    10-15-2019 04:03 PM
  24. Chris5626's Avatar
    I just can't do it because Apple significantly closed the gap on photography wars with Google with the iPhone 11.

    I may be petty for saying this, but we all have our own reasons for not buying into the P4.

    1. I am jelly of the experience iPhone users get with the Apple Watch. I want a proper wearable that is supported and offers tight integration.

    2. With the Pixel 3, some callers on the other end can't hear me within the first 5 seconds of a call. I primarily text, so I didn't pursue the manufacturer's warranty options. Hardware can be described as sufficient, but not premium.

    3. Apple is starting to figure out the formula for great images by combining software, machine learning, and hardware.

    4. My kids will be introduced to iPhones when they are ready. Family controls, iMessage, Facetime will serve us better than being fragmented across Android and iOS devices.

    5. 3rd party accessories and cases are plentiful with iPhones.

    6. If support or repair is ever needed, I can visit an Apple store if I choose. If my Pixel breaks, I have to mail it in.

    My home is filled with Google speakers, Google wifi points, chromecasts, Nest Hello, Nest Hub, etc. I love Google services, apps, and the Assistant. My wife can use all if it just fine on her iPhone 7 plus which leads me to believe that I can use an iPhone and still live in the Google ecosystem.
    Not going to response point by point but I've jumped back and forth between Android and iOS a few times, prior to getting the Pixel 3 XL I was using an iPhone X. Both have pros and cons, I'm not a 'fanboy' of either but I thought I would share my perspective for what it is worth.

    Apple does get some things absolutely right, they often aren't the first to market with ideas and I know a lot of people give them stick about that but generally speaking when they release a new feature they are polished, face unlock being a great example of this.

    As you rightly say the integration between the Apple Watch and the iPhone is fantastic, the biggest thing I miss from my iPhone X is my Apple Watch, rather than feeling like a device that connected to my phone it felt like an extension of my phone and for me that is what it should feel like.

    For me the problem with iPhones is just how controlled everything is, this does have it's benefits, generally speaking everything just works because the software and hardware were built for one another, every element of the UI is controlled and app developers have a few phone models to build apps for rather than thousands.

    But, an iPhone has never felt like my phone, it feels like it's Apple's phone that they are reluctantly allowing me to use.

    Little things like control of the home screen, icon packs, launcher options etc make a huge difference to me, if I get tired of my phone a few changes here or there and it feels like a different phone but with an iPhone it gets old quick especially if you go from one iPhone to another iPhone. For me buying a new phone is one of my highlights during a year and with an iPhone within 5 minutes of getting it out the box I often feel disappointed because no matter how great the hardware is iOS is dull. With Android you have so much granular control but with iOS your options are basically on or off if you are even that lucky, if you want to use your device in a way other than what the ghost of Steve Jobs wants you to use it then it won't end well for you.

    Now that's how it feels for me and I'm obviously not everyone else, again Apple's approach has plenty of advantages but for me if I'm spending the best part of £1,000 on a phone I want it to feel new and unique and for me the flexibility that Android phones provide delivers just that.
    Ben_70, farb12, maddiealan and 5 others like this.
    10-15-2019 04:07 PM
  25. anthonium's Avatar
    I just can't do it.

    I'd consider the OnePlus 7 line of phones going forwards but they're too big for my liking. Where else can I get a somewhat clean Android experience?
    10-15-2019 04:17 PM
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