If they both are, that would be excellent. If they went the F1.6 primary and F2.4 wide angle, I'd be very disappointed.
I believe that's what the plan is. The primary will be 1.6 not 2.4.
If they both are, that would be excellent. If they went the F1.6 primary and F2.4 wide angle, I'd be very disappointed.
The main camera on the V20 is f1.8, so not really much of a leap there and I doubt the one on the V30 will contribute much to better low light abilities. The V20 also already uses a glass lens, as obviously demonstrated by "shattergate." Improvements to the wide angle lens may be better, as it's newer technology and thus more open to improvements.
The V20 is still one of the best cameras around in smartphones. The V30 may offer some marginal refinements, but I doubt it'll be a huge leap.
You're confusing the glass cover of the lens protector, not the actual glass of the camera lens itself. 25% more light is a big jump.
Here is the press release from LG two days ago.
LG V30 To Feature Largest Aperture And Clearest Lens Ever In Its Smartphone Lineup
ENGLEWOOD CLIFFS, N.J., Aug. 10, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- LG Electronics (LG) will incorporate an F1.6 aperture camera and an actual glass lens element in the dual camera of its upcoming V30 flagship smartphone, ushering in a new level of photographic innovation for smartphones.
Excellence in smartphone cameras has long been a core competency of LG and the dual camera module in the upcoming LG V30 will include the largest aperture and clearest lens ever among existing LG smartphones. LG's first F1.6 lens delivers 25 percent more light to the sensor compared to an F1.8 lens. The glass Crystal Clear Lens also offers greater light-collecting ability than a plastic lens as well as better color reproduction.
"LG boasts an unrivaled heritage in smartphone photography and we decided to adopt a glass lens in the V30 camera, as glass has traditionally been the realm of professional DSLR cameras," said Juno Cho, president of LG Electronics Mobile Communications Company. "This innovation is particularly significant for photo and video-savvy users of the V-series."
In all areas, the LG V30 camera is superior to that of its predecessor. The V30 minimizes edge distortion compared to the V20 when capturing wide angle shots, making it ideal for group selfies, spacious interiors and expansive landscapes.
The upgraded rear camera module of the LG V30 still manages to remain slender, boasting a 30 percent smaller size compared to the V20. Paired with LG's specialized UX featuring laser detection AF, optical image stabilization and electronic image stabilization, shutterbugs will find the V30 as easy and convenient to use as its predecessor.
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I noticed. That's why I want the wide angle as F2.0 with the principal as F1.6.I believe that's what the plan is. The primary will be 1.6 not 2.4.
I noticed. That's why I want the wide angle as F2.0 with the principal as F1.6.
I see what you're saying, but where does it say no one else uses glass.
Also being made of glass alone doesn't always make it better than plastic or polycarbonate.
I read it one of the articles that I cant seem to find now. But essentially the lenses on tiny lenses like this are plastic due to the production difficulties.
I don't think plastic lens have ever outperformed glass as far as clarity and less distortion on edges goes. Pretty sure nobody makes a DLSR lens of plastic. In sunglasses, there is a big difference in clarity and distortion from poly to glass as well.
That's disappointing if they did that again.Sorry I meant the wide angle would be 2.4 last I heard.
I guess if you don't consider a 25% increase in light (from 1.8 to 1.6) to be much of a leap...The main camera on the V20 is f1.8, so not really much of a leap there
I didn't find any direct comparisons, but I did run across this article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ad...ear/photo/50mm-lens-shoot-out-f18-or-f14/?amp
It compares f1.8 to f1.4 DSLR lenses and mentions several downsides of the wider aperture. While maybe not 100% translatable to smartphones, it does make me wonder if any of those concerns start to show up in the V30. It'll also have a narrower depth of field, which can be good or bad depending on your use.
I'm still not getting one, though, for other reasons and loss of features.
Could depend on what sensor they end up going with as I think that will play a big factor. I think LG had done a great job with the small 1.1 micron pixel size they have been using but they could really squeeze a lot more light if they jumped on what Google, HTC and Samsung have done by ditching the 1.1 micron size and going for a bigger pixel like 1.4.
I'd translate that into a smaller exposure window in lowlight shots which could lead to less blurry photos.
But not saying what LG has been doing is bad as I get great lowlight shots with my V20.
I'll have to check that out. Thanks!I just downloaded the Google Camera software with HDR+. Someone just cracked it two days ago that you can install in any phone with our chipset. HDR+ much improved over standard HDR in just a few test shots I did here around the house. Of course thats just auto settings vs auto settings, but still had me impressed vs the LG software.
The photos are less "over exposed" if that make sense, particularly if there is a lamp or light source in the background.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/
I just downloaded the Google Camera software with HDR+. Someone just cracked it two days ago that you can install in any phone with our chipset. HDR+ much improved over standard HDR in just a few test shots I did here around the house. Of course thats just auto settings vs auto settings, but still had me impressed vs the LG software.
The photos are less "over exposed" if that make sense, particularly if there is a lamp or light source in the background.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/
You'd have to flip back and forth between camera apps...using this for more auto video and pictures and the regular app for wide angle, and manual mode for videos and pictures.You lose the wide angle camera
You'd have to flip back and forth between camera apps...using this for more auto video and pictures and the regular app for wide angle, and manual mode for videos and pictures.
I guess...we'll see.