[jmssarno]

Same here, waiting for the V40 too. Will probably be fully redesigned since they already re-used the V30 design twice. Who knows what it will have, but I highly doubt a removable battery as much as I would like. They might just follow suit the current trends plus the tech they already have developed (so maybe something inbetween a G7 and V30 mixed with 2018 phones).

I wouldn't have high expectations, phones nowadays are reaching a point of staleness and getting pretty boring... curved glass, bezelless, more and more features getting slashed in exchange for minimalism...

Well said, I totally agree...

I'm just wondering which will come first. The V20 getting Oreo or all of us upgrading to a V40 lol.

[Mike Dee]

Well said, I totally agree...

I'm just wondering which will come first. The V20 getting Oreo or all of us upgrading to a V40 lol.

It's sad because V20 came with 7.0 out of the box.

[flyingkytez]

Well said, I totally agree...

I'm just wondering which will come first. The V20 getting Oreo or all of us upgrading to a V40 lol.

I would think 6 months after the G7 to maximize sales.. Not sure why the eagerness to upgrade to Oreo, seems like people just want something "new" thinking it would boost their phones performance or get some cool new UI changes but they're wrong, it'll probably slow down your phone.. the phone was designed for the OS that it came with, the developer will probably do a bad job converting the software because it's not their priority and if there's something wrong, they're not going to fix it anymore because they're moving on to something else already. Android 7 is still very good, probably my favorite so far.. still very good with battery and great performance. Don't fall for the marketing hype of a new OS, theres nothing that significantly different.. maybe some UI theme differences.. phone will not be faster (even if so, by a hair). Many times you see people on forums asking "How do I downgrade my phone?" The answer: you CAN'T. Manufactures will NOT let you do it (although supposedly possible, they won't allow it). Also, expect more bloatware installed or updated esp. on carrier branded phones.. So maybe think twice before you make the upgrade.. you may or may NOT like it...

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

I would think 6 months after the G7 to maximize sales.. Not sure why the eagerness to upgrade to Oreo, seems like people just want something "new" thinking it would boost their phones performance or get some cool new UI changes but they're wrong, it'll probably slow down your phone.. the phone was designed for the OS that it came with, the developer will probably do a bad job converting the software because it's not their priority and if there's something wrong, they're not going to fix it anymore because they're moving on to something else already. Android 7 is still very good, probably my favorite so far.. still very good with battery and great performance. Don't fall for the marketing hype of a new OS, theres nothing that significantly different.. maybe some UI theme differences.. phone will not be faster (even if so, by a hair). Many times you see people on forums asking "How do I downgrade my phone?" The answer: you CAN'T. Manufactures will NOT let you do it (although supposedly possible, they won't allow it). Also, expect more bloatware installed or updated esp. on carrier branded phones.. So maybe think twice before you make the upgrade.. you may or may NOT like it...

Oreo significantly improved notifications, introduced major security enhancements, huge improvements to the user experience, like native picture in picture, more secure and more accurate contextual autofill, much greater control over privacy controls, OS level color management, obvious improvements to resource management and battery life, etc, etc. Oreo is objectively better than nougat. Though I agree the phone is designed for the OS it launched with and most OEMs suck at the adaptation.

[Mike Dee]

Oreo significantly improved notifications, introduced major security enhancements, huge improvements to the user experience, like native picture in picture, more secure and more accurate contextual autofill, much greater control over privacy controls, OS level color management, obvious improvements to resource management and battery life, etc, etc. Oreo is objectively better than nougat. Though I agree the phone is designed for the OS it launched with and most OEMs suck at the adaptation.

Thanks..... I was almost ready to roll back to cupcake

[Greedog]

I just started on the "V20" bandwagon in June... On purpose. It's got most everything I want in a phone except the initial wallet vacuum effect at purchase time.
I'll be keeping mine for quite a while.
I waited almost two years to get it. The wait wasn't too bad. I was rocking the G5 at the time.

[MDMcAtee]

I just got my new replacement v20 this week so I will be hanging on with it for a good long time.

[recDNA]

Oreo significantly improved notifications, introduced major security enhancements, huge improvements to the user experience, like native picture in picture, more secure and more accurate contextual autofill, much greater control over privacy controls, OS level color management, obvious improvements to resource management and battery life, etc, etc. Oreo is objectively better than nougat. Though I agree the phone is designed for the OS it launched with and most OEMs suck at the adaptation.

None of those things have helped me at all nor do I notice them however I miss native gallery picture cropping and I can no longer control the degree of vibration. There is a vibration intensity slider in settings but it no longer as any effect. How are my notifications better now?