All interesting points, though I want to clear a couple things up so we're not piling misinformation on top of more misinformation.
Two things, the first being that updates is the most complained about feature by enthusiasts. Your average GSIV owner that bought it for the same reasons most iPhone users buy their iPhones doesn't care about what software version their phone is running. If they're even cognizant of their actual needs in a device (most aren't), then they only care about whether or not their device has those features. If an Android nerd bashes their brand-new SIV because it doesn't have 4.3 and won't get it for a while, the most interest they'll express would be whether or not the update added features they might use. Otherwise, staying at the forefront of the technology, just because it exists, isn't a priority for these people. It is for us, but we're not part of that majority.
Two, we still don't have anything really official about the Moto X yet, so there still isn't reason to confirm or deny it will get updates like a Nexus. At this point, we don't even know what's going to separate this from Verizon's new Droids (aside from the customizations and cross-carrier availability). You may absolutely be right about this, but even if you are, to the people Motorola wants to sell this device to, it won't matter. What'll really matter to them is being able to get it in pink. Or turquoise.
The Nexus 4 was a great device, provided you weren't on either the largest or 3rd largest carrier in the US. What remote piece of evidence do you have to support that the Nexus 5 is going to be incredible? People keep adding this argument to the pile of reasons not to buy the Moto X, but we still have yet to hear anything about it, rumored or otherwise. With that in mind, who's to say it's not going to be another Nexus 4 that's also only available to GSM networks? If nothing else, the Moto X is going to be able to capture a larger segment of the market than the Nexus 4 ever could, and it doesn't make sense to try to compare it to vaporware.
They're not. Apple wants to make money, they do this by hardware with markup. Google wants to make money, they do this by collecting user data and ad revenue. They now own a hardware company that is to be used to help them further that business model. This is why they make many of their services available to Apple products. If any one company is trying to "outdo" Apple, it's Samsung, and they should because they're competing for the same goal: selling hardware with markup.
Yes, this, (for different reasons) is what I think Google's goal is with Motorola. They want to make them profitable, they want to increase their device availability on more wireless carriers, and they're not afraid to spend marketing dollars to do it. A Nexus-like Motorola device or not, Motorola has already gained a lot of cooperation from the carriers for the launch of this device, but what that actually ends up meaning is yet to be seen.
Exactly. It amazes me that everyone is just assuming GE phones and Google owned Motorola phones are somehow going to get automatic Nexus program privileges. I don't want to be too hard on them though because if the massive number of threads complaining about carrier/manufacturer delayed updates is any indication, this is probably THE most complained about android smartphone issue of all. People are grasping for anything to hope there's a solution around the corner.
Two things, the first being that updates is the most complained about feature by enthusiasts. Your average GSIV owner that bought it for the same reasons most iPhone users buy their iPhones doesn't care about what software version their phone is running. If they're even cognizant of their actual needs in a device (most aren't), then they only care about whether or not their device has those features. If an Android nerd bashes their brand-new SIV because it doesn't have 4.3 and won't get it for a while, the most interest they'll express would be whether or not the update added features they might use. Otherwise, staying at the forefront of the technology, just because it exists, isn't a priority for these people. It is for us, but we're not part of that majority.
Two, we still don't have anything really official about the Moto X yet, so there still isn't reason to confirm or deny it will get updates like a Nexus. At this point, we don't even know what's going to separate this from Verizon's new Droids (aside from the customizations and cross-carrier availability). You may absolutely be right about this, but even if you are, to the people Motorola wants to sell this device to, it won't matter. What'll really matter to them is being able to get it in pink. Or turquoise.
There is and there isn't. What we're seeing right now with the GE phones, and Google pulling the API's of their native apps out of the phones and into Google Play Services is an improvement that helps mitigate the annoyance of delayed updates somewhat, but not a total and complete solution. The only total solution available right now is a Nexus, and IMO that's not a problem. The Nexus 4 is a superb device, and the Nexus 5 is going to be incredible. Other than that, you're basically looking at going iPhone, which only managed to avoid delayed updates because they were able to strongarm the carriers in the early days and they make their own hardware.
The Nexus 4 was a great device, provided you weren't on either the largest or 3rd largest carrier in the US. What remote piece of evidence do you have to support that the Nexus 5 is going to be incredible? People keep adding this argument to the pile of reasons not to buy the Moto X, but we still have yet to hear anything about it, rumored or otherwise. With that in mind, who's to say it's not going to be another Nexus 4 that's also only available to GSM networks? If nothing else, the Moto X is going to be able to capture a larger segment of the market than the Nexus 4 ever could, and it doesn't make sense to try to compare it to vaporware.
However, having said all that, if Google are really as serious about outdoing Apple as they appear to be, then they SHOULD make a phone that's a combination of their own hardware - which they can now do because they own Motorola - as well as directly updated by Google software. If that were ever to come about, I really see no more reason to ever even consider an iPhone other than pure brand loyalty.
They're not. Apple wants to make money, they do this by hardware with markup. Google wants to make money, they do this by collecting user data and ad revenue. They now own a hardware company that is to be used to help them further that business model. This is why they make many of their services available to Apple products. If any one company is trying to "outdo" Apple, it's Samsung, and they should because they're competing for the same goal: selling hardware with markup.
So what's stopping them? Well basically neither the Nexus nor the Motorola brands command the same type of brand popularity that iPhones and Samsung do. So that means many carriers will not play nice with Google and allow a Motorola Nexus to be sold from their stores free of their software and controlled updates. Trying to gather sales as high as iPhone and Galaxy without being pushed to people by the carriers, and having to sell only from Play Store would be pretty tough.
We'll see what Google comes up with. It's a no-brainer that they have already likely discussed all of this.
Yes, this, (for different reasons) is what I think Google's goal is with Motorola. They want to make them profitable, they want to increase their device availability on more wireless carriers, and they're not afraid to spend marketing dollars to do it. A Nexus-like Motorola device or not, Motorola has already gained a lot of cooperation from the carriers for the launch of this device, but what that actually ends up meaning is yet to be seen.