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  1. Slashyou's Avatar
    I don't use my N4 for benchmarking, I use it in the real world. With a quad core cpu and 2gb ram, it's still very quick and does everything well. You can take your iphone 6 and toss it in the garbage.
    Its still better the ip6
    09-14-2014 11:30 AM
  2. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    I'm using an almost 2 year old Galaxy S3. It works fine. The only real change from new, other than firmware upgrades, is that the battery no longer has as much capacity as it did when new. That's normal for any battery-they all lose something over time. But I have no problems with the screen or digitizer at all. That said, I've been comparing to newer phones, and the performance difference is quite noticeable. The S5 is smoother, apps load quicker, transitions are faster, etc. Even web pages seem to load a little faster. And the S5 screen is much brighter, has more accurate color, and is bigger and sharper than the one on my S3. Not because the S3's screen has deteriorated, but because technology has gotten better.

    On the second question, it will depend on who you ask. I don't think we'll see any dramatic changes in technology in the next couple of years. Screens will get sharper and higher res, but it's questionable whether you can see the improvement in all but a few special cases. Processors will get faster, but not twice or three times as fast, and more efficient, but not 2 or 3 times more efficient. I don't see any dramatic changes in battery capacity any time soon.

    The one imminent change is to 64 bit processors and OS's. But double the bits doesn't mean double the performance. I think it will be a number of years before we see apps that really take advantage of 64 bit systems to do things significantly better than we can do know.

    I generally keep my phones for a couple of generations. The improvements from one generation to the next (e.g., S3 to S4, or One M7 to M8) aren't generally significant enough to justify the price. But the improvements over two generations (S3 to S5) tend to be fairly significant. OTOH, the technology is pretty mature. I don't expect there to be as big a gap between the S5 and S7 as between the S3 and S5. There's only so much resolution you can use, so much memory you need, so much speed you need (can you tell the difference between a 0.08 screen redraw and a 0.06 redraw?). And there are only so many new gadgets and features (or gimmicks) you can use on a phone. Most people don't use all the features their current phones have.
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    09-14-2014 02:11 PM
  3. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    That Verizon have good no quibble support demonstrates more that they are not expecting phones to last.

    We can all read so many posts where phones have failed within 12 - 16 months or less.
    No, it means just the opposite. If they expected to have a lot of failures they wouldn't offer that plan, as it would get very expensive. Their extended warranty program is a money maker, because most people pay into it for 2 years and never need to use it.

    And what you don't see is all the posts from people who's phones haven't broken. People post when they have problems. No one posts to say "Hey, my phone just passed 18 months and is still working perfectly!"
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    09-14-2014 02:19 PM
  4. meyerweb#CB's Avatar

    A year ago, I gave my wife my one year old iPhone 5. Although functional even without a power button, that device is EOL even though it has the current OS. The point is wear and tear associated with daily use will drive you to a new phone before the OS is outdated. Two years is too long. You may be using duct tape to hold the thing together.
    The iPhone build quality is either crap, or you guys are really hard on your phones. My HTC Evo lasted 2 1/2 years with no hardware issues at all. I only upgraded it to get a larger screen and better performance. My S3 is nearly two years old, as it my sons's, and neither have any hardware issues at all. All the buttons work, nothing is cracked or broken. If your phone is falling apart in two years you need to look at how you treat your possessions.
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    09-14-2014 02:26 PM
  5. AndroidHabit's Avatar
    Hahaha word...
    09-14-2014 06:09 PM
  6. Ed Briggs's Avatar
    That said, I've been comparing to newer phones, and the performance difference is quite noticeable.
    Wait for the Nexus 6 or whatever it's gonna be called. If you ask me, developer's reference devices are the way to go if you want quick upgrades, complete customization, the BEST rom support and sweet hacks. I'll never go back to using a skinned version of android such as TW or Sense. I just like a stock look but with tons of added tweaks and functionality under the hood. I can't wait for the nexus 6.
    09-14-2014 09:43 PM
  7. dpham00's Avatar
    $3 is really good, and would be dumb to pass on, I agree. Most insurance cover pushed here could be half the montly in the past, with hefty commissions etc. Probably was similar in the US. There was a reports and investigations and I don't know what cover costs now, but is normally provided by a 3rd party insurer. I would do $3 if it means missing a cappuccino.
    Just to be clear, the $3 is for extended warranty only and covers manufacturers defects only,no deductible,no claim limits. Verizon does offer accidental damage handling (cracked screen) and loss and theft for $5.18, deductible varies but for the note 3, it is $100, and 2 claim limit per year. you can have both for $8.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
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    09-15-2014 08:49 AM
  8. dpham00's Avatar
    No, it means just the opposite. If they expected to have a lot of failures they wouldn't offer that plan, as it would get very expensive. Their extended warranty program is a money maker, because most people pay into it for 2 years and never need to use it.

    And what you don't see is all the posts from people who's phones haven't broken. People post when they have problems. No one posts to say "Hey, my phone just passed 18 months and is still working perfectly!"
    As with any private insurance /warranty program, the goal of the company is profit, whether it be phone insurance /warranty, car, house, etc. Each person must determine if they need insurance. There are legal ways to avoid having insurance, even on home or car. But most people choose to have insurance, rather than use the other options. Now on phone, the cost is much smaller, and many opt for no insurance. Which is fine, as said before, if you opt for that route, be sure that you can afford it if the device fails and isn't covered under warranty.

    I have had smartphones since 2011 and have used extended warranty a few times. Verizon covers the active device on the line, so on occasion, I have switched to an older phone then found a defect, and had Verizon replace it under extended warranty.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
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    09-15-2014 08:57 AM
  9. msndrstood's Avatar
    My Note 2 is still cranking. I'm hoping to get the Note 4 or the Note Edge and give my Note 3 to my husband. I get too damn attached to my devices. 📲

    I keep them all.

    Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk
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    09-15-2014 09:38 AM
  10. anon8380037's Avatar
    My Note 2 is still cranking. I'm hoping to get the Note 4 or the Note Edge and give my Note 3 to my husband. I get too damn attached to my devices. 📲

    I keep them all.

    Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk
    I personally don't refer to my spouse as a device, but I know what you mean.

    Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Pro
    09-15-2014 10:47 AM
  11. power5's Avatar
    My phones are replaced when the contract expires with ATT. Until that is no longer a thing, I will keep phones for 2 years. I use my Note3 a lot every day, but I do not care to root or do anything too custom. I do have a launcher to get rid of TW though. I have used the pen less and less but still find it useful for some things. Tablet has taken on the drawing duties.
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    09-15-2014 03:38 PM
  12. HankSpank's Avatar
    I picked up an old Android of mine recently. It was scary how ****-poor it is now compared to the competition. I don't think I could ever go more than 2 years anymore.
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    09-16-2014 09:44 PM
  13. whyst's Avatar
    Sold note 2 on ebay, $150. Paid $200 plus $100 Walmart gift card, thus, made out +$50 plus 18mo of use.
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    09-16-2014 11:08 PM
  14. monsieurms's Avatar
    Wow. I am sure there are more like this though.

    Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Pro
    Less and less. As tech matures, the urge to spend lots of money for no reason and set up a new device, etc, declines.
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    09-18-2014 04:20 PM
  15. ffejjj's Avatar
    A 2 year phone was never realistic lol

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    09-18-2014 05:20 PM
  16. anon8380037's Avatar
    A 2 year phone was never realistic lol

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    I can never get which way your coming from with your posts. Adding something useful with a statement, or mocking. Oh well!
    09-18-2014 05:31 PM
  17. Foxpaw's Avatar
    I'm still using my Galaxy S3, which will turn 2 next month. No hardware problems at all, everything still works fine. I'm definitely upgrading, primarily because I'm tired of how ****ty Sprint's network is in my area, but also because I want to move to a more stock Android experience. Just waiting to see what the new Nexus looks like before I decide between it and the new Moto X.

    I could easily see this phone going strong for at least another year though.
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    09-18-2014 05:42 PM
  18. ffejjj's Avatar
    I can never get which way your coming from with your posts. Adding something useful with a statement, or mocking. Oh well!
    Lol. I can't explain them all. The heading of this thread caught my eye and I realized I hate waiting in general. I want every new flagship phone.

    Posted via Android Central App
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    09-18-2014 06:56 PM
  19. 21stNow's Avatar
    My mother still uses my Vibrant (for voice only) that I purchased in September 2010. It had a short break between me using it daily and my mother using it daily. I'm still using my Galaxy S3 (June 2012), Note 2 (Oct 2012), Galaxy Nexus (Nov 2011), HTC One X (May 2012) on a daily basis, though with limited use as none of those are my main devices.

    My original Note didn't make it quite to the two-year mark due to something in the phone running down the battery (I tried a new battery with no improvement). My Nexus S stopped functioning well once I put Ice Cream Sandwich on it, so I stopped using that one at the one year mark. There's many other phones that I could tell you about, but it would take too long. I haven't had a digitizer fail on me yet and have never had any other screen issues.
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    09-18-2014 08:16 PM
  20. Patrick Leonardo's Avatar
    Huh?

    I'm using an EVO 3D, rooted, as my 'phone'. Works fine, 3.5 years old. Screen is in good condition, works perfectly. The USB jack is a little worn. Nothing wrong with the 1/8 headphone jack. It doesn't have the capacity for a lot of apps (running them simultaneously in ice cream sandwich with the lower powered processor) but what I use it for, works fine.

    I argue that people upgrading expensive handheld computers as often as they do is a cultural phenomenon, not a function of usability of devices.
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    09-19-2014 03:52 PM
  21. Patrick Leonardo's Avatar
    Lol. I can't explain them all. The heading of this thread caught my eye and I realized I hate waiting in general. I want every new flagship phone.

    Posted via Android Central App
    I'm waiting for the Nexus 6, or whatever it will be called, as well. I got my wife the Nexus 5 for Christmas and it is just a fantastic phone. Runs like butter on the Ting network. Battery life isn't the best, but for her moderate use, no problem. Qi charging on a Panasonic charger works well too.
    I tell my friends still in the Apple 'ecosystem' that the older versions of Android did have some runtime issues (the degree of which varied with the device) but with 4.2+, the O.S. gives a similar experience in fluidity to iOS or Windows mobile, as well as superior memory management.
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    09-19-2014 03:58 PM
  22. anon8380037's Avatar
    Huh?

    I'm using an EVO 3D, rooted, as my 'phone'. Works fine, 3.5 years old. Screen is in good condition, works perfectly. The USB jack is a little worn. Nothing wrong with the 1/8 headphone jack. It doesn't have the capacity for a lot of apps (running them simultaneously in ice cream sandwich with the lower powered processor) but what I use it for, works fine.

    I argue that people upgrading expensive handheld computers as often as they do is a cultural phenomenon, not a function of usability of devices.
    I'm waiting for the Nexus 6, or whatever it will be called, as well. I got my wife the Nexus 5 for Christmas and it is just a fantastic phone. Runs like butter on the Ting network. Battery life isn't the best, but for her moderate use, no problem. Qi charging on a Panasonic charger works well too.
    I tell my friends still in the Apple 'ecosystem' that the older versions of Android did have some runtime issues (the degree of which varied with the device) but with 4.2+, the O.S. gives a similar experience in fluidity to iOS or Windows mobile, as well as superior memory management.
    Welcome to Android Central.
    Your not really an android noobie then.
    Thanks for the phone info. 3.5 years running huh.

    I was wondering if the early digitisers were not as robust as later models.
    Then maybe the later models were built down to a cost and the technology is there for screens and digitisers etc to last ten years but no manufacturer wants that, and no purchaser will pay twice as much for better materials, when the phone itself will be old tech within 6 months to a year.
    09-19-2014 04:50 PM
  23. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    I have a note 2 nearly 2 years of age still works great, my old s3 was given to my sister and now my mom, it still works fine.

    Technology advances insanely fast but a phone can easily make it 2 years if cared for.

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    09-19-2014 06:21 PM
  24. Litlprince2's Avatar
    Who has had a recent generation smartphone (2010/2011+) in heavy use for 2 years without hardware issues?

    Will anyone buying before this Christmas NOT change again before Christmas 2015?

    I imagine very few. Current format touch screen devices *must be* limited in lifespan, and new design philosophies will change our wants long term anyway.

    Ergonomics and modular phones will make inroads.

    The days of 4+ year old phones are long gone.

    So 2 questions really:

    Does current hardware, specifically digitizers and screens, last?

    Have current smartphones reached a peak, and we will all want something different in the very near future?


    **edited.
    Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Pro
    What are you going on about.....

    -My S3 works fine.. No hardware issues...

    -Everyone wants the next best thing... Its simply the cost that keeps us from upgrading.. Thats doesnt mean there is anything wrong our current device. These phones are built to last a lot longer then 2 years on contract.

    -Modulars will happen but wont be widely accepted.. No time soon.

    -The days of the 4+ year old phones is now... Well not right now but we are actually getting closer. Take a look at how PCs have progressed. In the beginning bigger and better parts were developed nearly daily and so a yearly upgrade or so was nearly mandatory. Currently faster processors and parts are still being made but they are not needed. A basic computer with budget parts can fulfill all the computing needs of a average user.. We will reach that with phones as well. The hardware will be able to keep up and head in whatever direction android does.

    -Current Hardware will last. Only poor build quality or QC will allow you to receive a soon be dead device.

    -Im no engineer but im sure even more greatness can be shoved into a tiny rectangle. Or perhaps its time we start thinking outside the rectangle.
    09-19-2014 06:39 PM
  25. monsieurms's Avatar
    Not showing any problems at all with my S4...I see no reason why I would dump it, except I want the Note 4's bigger screen size. That's motivation.

    It has idly occurred to me that, after getting the Note 4, I may have only one more quick upgrade left, probably to Note 6, say. I would keep the 4 as a backup. Then, barring any revolutionary roll-out by a phone mfg. of something New and Impressive, I might just keep the Note 6, or whatever, until it shows problems or doesn't work. I don't throw my laptop away every year. I don't throw my desktop away every year. Why should I keep throwing my phone away if the tech is current and it works? They aren't phones, they're computers.

    We'll see if my upgrade-itis is kept in check. I've failed before! Hypocrisy thy name is me! I admit it. Still, it does seem to be reaching a point where the phones now do everything I want and they do it well. The impulse to keep upgrading is waning fast. It begins to look like more of a chore than a benefit--it is annoying to set your phone with all the right tweaks and right accessories and then to have to do it all over again. There has to be some reason to do that and go through that process again, even ignoring the cost.

    Maybe if Samsung comes out with Note 7 with 256gb of internal memory for an extra $5 and a battery that lasts a month..... But I am fast reaching the point where upgrades will be based on whether I really need it rather than some automatic schedule that came into being because of phone contract length.
    09-20-2014 08:09 AM
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