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  1. lou61166's Avatar
    Goes both ways...

    And I really want asking a serious question. A high amount of threads in this section end up being about plastic vs aluminum, or One vs S4. Same with the One section.

    Might need to do some cleaning up later...
    I have been on both forums and could not agree more.
    04-27-2013 09:43 PM
  2. omniusovermind's Avatar
    OK so Samsung's advertisements employ all kinds of hyping of things most people don't care that much about in order to promote their products and that's OK because some of you will defend it as gospel truth. But god forbid if any media outlets are guilty of the same attitude for another phone right? :rolleyes:
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    04-27-2013 10:00 PM
  3. Relletti's Avatar
    The s4 is not cheap looking or feeling at all. I went by the store and picked up the htc one and yes I thought I felt nice. Then I saw the s4 and picked it up....come on really guys? I think that the media has been trying to push the htc one too much. The s4 felt great in the hand and looks great. The picture I had in my mind after reading all the articles is exact opposite of what the s4 is. I understand everyone has their own opinion on what's premium and cheap feeling...but really?...come on!


    I'm addicted to the phone
    I'm glad there is a few people who feel this way. I think the media is trying to push the htc one Big time. Every article is making it seem like the s4 is the worst phone to hold.
    04-27-2013 10:00 PM
  4. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Every review I read from so-called neutral professional journalists comparing the HTC One to the Samsung GS4 mentioned the metal vs plastic materials mantra. Now people, like myself, actually handled and played with both are coming away shaking their heads amazed about the quality feel and experience from handling the GS4. So why do you want to put a damper on it? I feel like most reviewers were not honest when they continually harped on the plastic GS4. And the video your company put together walking in some park in FULL sunlight asking people which one they preferred is ridiculous. What a joke.

    Most people that follow the business end of both companies know it might be do-or-die for HTC if the One isn't a smash hit with mega sales. I for one hope enough people like and buy the One to keep HTC from going belly-up and out of business.
    I feel I need to address something. I'm a VOLUNTEER. So are the rest of the Mods (and the Ambassadors, too).

    Why the emphasis on FULL sunlight? Don't people use their phones in full sunlight? How was it unfair? How was it a joke?

    I wonder, would S4 fans and owners be complaining if the roles were reversed? If all the reviews were in favor of the S4 instead of the One.
    04-27-2013 10:26 PM
  5. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    I'm glad there is a few people who feel this way. I think the media is trying to push the htc one Big time. Every article is making it seem like the s4 is the worst phone to hold.
    I got the impression that it was an attitude of "more of the same" with the S4.
    04-27-2013 10:29 PM
  6. trandz's Avatar
    I don't feel its cheap either. Much more solid than the gs3. Compared to the one its obviously the cheaper of the two but honestly who cares. The gs4 is light and in my opinion much easier to operate with one hand.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Android Central Forums
    04-27-2013 10:30 PM
  7. Gathomblipoob's Avatar
    I have the HTC One, but I tried an S3 last year. I know the housing is plastic, but I really didn't have a problem with that. The phone still felt solid to hold. Yes, it could flex a bit here and there, but it never had a cheap feel, in my opinion. It's just a matter of personal taste, I guess.
    jroc likes this.
    04-27-2013 10:30 PM
  8. yousmell's Avatar
    This phone feels right. .looks classy with the aluminum look around the sides. Ive put my s2 s3 note and note 2 in their box and in a draw. .s4 all the way

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
    04-27-2013 10:32 PM
  9. metz65's Avatar
    My dogs better than your dog, my phones battery is bigger, your phone is plastic, ewwww your phone has motoblur, blah blah blah yada yada yada.
    I'm glad the s4 isn't the same as the one, the one isn't like the dna, the dna isn't like the Maxx, etc etc.

    If all android phones were the same you would have the I phone. I thought the draw of android was customization and freedom, the ability to root, run a rom of choice, use widgets, make bob's phone different than Tom's.

    Your phones crap my phones crap but at least we have the option of which piece of crap we use.

    I don't care what kind of phone you have, that's not how I judge someone's worth or intelligence.
    04-27-2013 10:45 PM
  10. Onemoa's Avatar
    I just can't wait for the Note 3!

    Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 2
    04-27-2013 10:48 PM
  11. Alex trebek's Avatar
    My dogs better than your dog, my phones battery is bigger, your phone is plastic, ewwww your phone has motoblur, blah blah blah yada yada yada.
    I'm glad the s4 isn't the same as the one, the one isn't like the dna, the dna isn't like the Maxx, etc etc.

    If all android phones were the same you would have the I phone. I thought the draw of android was customization and freedom, the ability to root, run a rom of choice, use widgets, make bob's phone different than Tom's.

    Your phones crap my phones crap but at least we have the option of which piece of crap we use.

    I don't care what kind of phone you have, that's not how I judge someone's worth or intelligence.
    Thank you. This is my point. Every person has different needs

    Sent from my HTC Rhyme
    04-27-2013 10:49 PM
  12. gruppe3942#AC's Avatar
    My reason for this post was not to say that the s4 is better than the htc one or vice versa. Just that I personally think people have been to unrealistic with the s4.
    In my opinion it started out when they were saying the s4 was an incremental update like the iPhone 4S which I totally disagree with.
    Just because Samsung used plastic does not make it a premium device. Who ever labeled premium device with aluminum.
    iPhone 5 is a high end device? Please I can take a coin to the edge of the phone and tap it hard enough and it will make a pretty serious indent. Oh and let's not talk about how easily the back surface of the phone is easily scratched.




    I'm addicted to the phone
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    04-27-2013 10:59 PM
  13. Wilbur's Avatar
    I feel I need to address something. I'm a VOLUNTEER. So are the rest of the Mods (and the Ambassadors, too).

    Why the emphasis on FULL sunlight? Don't people use their phones in full sunlight? How was it unfair? How was it a joke?

    I wonder, would S4 fans and owners be complaining if the roles were reversed? If all the reviews were in favor of the S4 instead of the One.
    Its very difficult to use any LCD/AMOLED device in full sunlight. Why did the producers choose that situation? Wasn't there a coffee cafe nearby with better lighting? IF I remember right the questions asked the "random people in the park" induced the viewer to believe these people would make a major purchasing decision costing hundreds of dollars and probably locking them into a multi-year contract based on a 1 minute exposure to both devices in harsh sunlight. I was shocked this web site would stoop so low to somehow illustrate that people would like device A or device B. Here you are asking us -- the REAL volunteers -- to tone back our new found enthusiasm for a product the so-called professional journalists lambasted in review after review for having cheap plastic construction. I walked out of the AT&T store today after examining the S4 and HTC One with profound disappointment with the reviewers who repeated the anti-plastic mantra.

    Reverse the reviews? Why? I expect neutral honesty from all professional reviewers worth any salt.
    Golfdriver97 likes this.
    04-27-2013 11:16 PM
  14. patelkedar91's Avatar
    I feel I need to address something. I'm a VOLUNTEER. So are the rest of the Mods (and the Ambassadors, too).

    Why the emphasis on FULL sunlight? Don't people use their phones in full sunlight? How was it unfair? How was it a joke?

    I wonder, would S4 fans and owners be complaining if the roles were reversed? If all the reviews were in favor of the S4 instead of the One.
    I think the S4 is getting a really bad rap.. that's the only reason I defend it. I've been a long-standing HTC fan but think it's ridiculous how much Samsung is getting bashed on.
    04-27-2013 11:43 PM
  15. OhAlfie's Avatar
    Mine is in a nice Rocketfish case, so none of this nonsense some folks are blathering on about bothers, nor concerns me at all. My supposed "cheap feeling" S III brought me $262 thanks to the Best Buy Trade In program. I made way more than I paid for the phone ($99) by trading up to the S 4. I expect the S 4 to do about the same next go round.
    04-27-2013 11:57 PM
  16. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    Its very difficult to use any LCD/AMOLED device in full sunlight. Why did the producers choose that situation? Wasn't there a coffee cafe nearby with better lighting? IF I remember right the questions asked the "random people in the park" induced the viewer to believe these people would make a major purchasing decision costing hundreds of dollars and probably locking them into a multi-year contract based on a 1 minute exposure to both devices in harsh sunlight. I was shocked this web site would stoop so low to somehow illustrate that people would like device A or device B. Here you are asking us -- the REAL volunteers -- to tone back our new found enthusiasm for a product the so-called professional journalists lambasted in review after review for having cheap plastic construction. I walked out of the AT&T store today after examining the S4 and HTC One with profound disappointment with the reviewers who repeated the anti-plastic mantra.

    Reverse the reviews? Why? I expect neutral honesty from all professional reviewers worth any salt.
    No you don't. You want to invent some grand conspiracy that doesn't exist.

    People that get to try all the phones as they are released have a different opinion than you do. You'll have to find a way to get over it.

    Nothing was set up, nobody stooped anywhere, and you're wrong.
    04-27-2013 11:58 PM
  17. omniusovermind's Avatar
    I think the S4 is getting a really bad rap.. that's the only reason I defend it. I've been a long-standing HTC fan but think it's ridiculous how much Samsung is getting bashed on.
    I think a healthy dose of lukewarm reception would actually be good for Samsung. I used to swear by their products years ago but lately I just feel like they've been too relaxed in their success. I have a good long history of Samsung hardware failing on me prematurely. The stuff I'd bought from them prior to around 2007 was never like that and was rock solid. They just come off as being more interested in adding bling frills to attract buyers than they are in maintaining the high QC standards I used to like them for. It's like there was a shift in their business philosophy after success.
    04-28-2013 12:02 AM
  18. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    As for the topic --

    There's nothing wrong with the S4. Not a damn thing. I like the One a bit better, but understand why others would see it differently. Most important of all, I don't worry about it. Enjoy what you spent your money on.
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    04-28-2013 12:05 AM
  19. Eric Kane's Avatar
    No you don't. You want to invent some grand conspiracy that doesn't exist.

    People that get to try all the phones as they are released have a different opinion than you do. You'll have to find a way to get over it.

    Nothing was set up, nobody stooped anywhere, and you're wrong.
    I've been on record stating I think some reviews may have been too biased. Alex's review isn't one of them, although I disagree with the build quality assessment. I wouldn't be here posting if AC was like that. The comparison video in the park was fine, too. Phil, Jerry, Alex, and the crew here aren't playing favorites; they've always been objective.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    04-28-2013 12:06 AM
  20. metz65's Avatar
    The only review I care about on any phone is mine.

    If I like it and it fits my needs I could care less what Jerry, the President or Moe Larry and Curly think about my phone. I'm the one who uses it every day.

    If you like a phone get it if you don't forget it.

    I don't care what kind of phone you have, that's not how I judge someone's worth or intelligence.
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    04-28-2013 12:12 AM
  21. Podunks's Avatar
    As for the topic --

    There's nothing wrong with the S4. Not a damn thing. I like the One a bit better, but understand why others would see it differently. Most important of all, I don't worry about it. Enjoy what you spent your money on.
    Exactly! I think the biggest problem here, is the amount of HTC fans coming in here, trying to trash the S4 with 0 experience on the phone.

    So because there was so much bashing, the OP wanted to counter, after having purchased and used the phone.

    Which I am in favor of...

    To be honest, I really liked how the One looked, and the S4. I think I only started to develope any sort of bias against the One, because of how many trolls were hopping over to bash something that was not even out yet.

    Coupled with the insane amount of backlash over it not being "revolutionary...." Which imo, a .2" larger screen, in a thinner, lighter, yet same form factor body, is pretty revolutionary.
    04-28-2013 12:14 AM
  22. return_0's Avatar
    Every review I read from so-called neutral professional journalists comparing the HTC One to the Samsung GS4 mentioned the metal vs plastic materials mantra. Now people, like myself, actually handled and played with both are coming away shaking their heads amazed about the quality feel and experience from handling the GS4. So why do you want to put a damper on it? I feel like most reviewers were not honest when they continually harped on the plastic GS4. And the video your company put together walking in some park in FULL sunlight asking people which one they preferred is ridiculous. What a joke.

    Most people that follow the business end of both companies know it might be do-or-die for HTC if the One isn't a smash hit with mega sales. I for one hope enough people like and buy the One to keep HTC from going belly-up and out of business.
    I'm sorry, but tbh, this feels more like you're saying "I feel like so-called neutral reviewers are lying through their teeth when they don't agree with me, but when they do agree with me, they have no bias at all and are perfectly in the right."
    04-28-2013 09:11 AM
  23. ugahairydawgs's Avatar
    We're talking about cell phones. Unless the things start coming in at 7" and have the heft of a small brick, they're all going to feel comfortable in somebody's hand.

    Galaxy S-whatever, HTC whatever, iPhone whatever....all feel fine in the hand.
    04-28-2013 09:23 AM
  24. Wilbur's Avatar
    No you don't. You want to invent some grand conspiracy that doesn't exist.

    People that get to try all the phones as they are released have a different opinion than you do. You'll have to find a way to get over it.

    Nothing was set up, nobody stooped anywhere, and you're wrong.
    We'll just agree to disagree. But I'm glad there's a growing number of people here, after finally getting first hand experience with the S4 and the HTC One, who realize most of the so-called journalist reviewers had it wrong for some reason.
    04-28-2013 09:23 AM
  25. madlaw1071's Avatar
    I watched the AC Central Park video and thought the S4 held its own quite well. For every person that likes the solid metal feels of the One there are just as many people that will think it's too big and heavy compared to the lighter smaller S4.

    I will say however that it was the AC review that used the term "perceived lag" that may have unwittingly unleashed the firestorm in the forums. I've read dozens of S4 reviews and none complained of lag, perceived or otherwise. That combined with some of the moderators being honest with the preference for the One and the flames were fueled.
    04-28-2013 09:58 AM
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