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  1. stmax's Avatar
    Hope my title was descriptive enough. I'm with Rogers and they have decided to let Android Messages handle RCS messaging rather than the Stock Samsung App. I use stock because I find it works good with my Gear S3. Also if I only need one app on my phone why not?

    So two part question. Is it worth the switch to use RCS? Do my contacts also need to be on RCS (I suspect they do) for me to see any advantage?

    Am I up, down or same in features on these two regardless of RCS? A killer feature of stock for me is scheduling messages and I dont think AM can do that?

    Thanks!
    07-03-2018 07:22 PM
  2. tube517's Avatar
    Android Messages is a work in progress. It does not have as many features as the Samsung messages app....yet.

    RCS(Chat) is also a work in progress on AM so it hasn't been fully implemented.

    Hopefully, they will add scheduling and customization to AM
    Rukbat likes this.
    07-03-2018 07:43 PM
  3. chanchan05's Avatar
    RCS is available on the Samsung Messages app if you have the latest update. In fact, the latest slew of bugs that you will reported on the latest Samsung Messages app is about the RCS update which T Mobile pushed to it. So you actually lose stuff going to Android Messages, like the customizations, but you also lose the bug so that's good.
    tube517 likes this.
    07-03-2018 08:34 PM
  4. stmax's Avatar
    Thanks. I think the features of the stock app are carrier dependent. It's strange. In Canada... Bell mobility uses the stock app for RCS and Roger's uses AM.
    07-04-2018 12:51 AM
  5. TwitchyPuppy's Avatar
    RCS is available on the Samsung Messages app if you have the latest update. In fact, the latest slew of bugs that you will reported on the latest Samsung Messages app is about the RCS update which T Mobile pushed to it. So you actually lose stuff going to Android Messages, like the customizations, but you also lose the bug so that's good.
    You also lose Samsung Messages sending photos from your gallery to random contacts, without your knowledge or consent.
    tube517 and rfortson like this.
    07-04-2018 08:41 AM
  6. chanchan05's Avatar
    That's the bug I was talking about. It started when Tmobile sent out their RCS update.
    You also lose Samsung Messages sending photos from your gallery to random contacts, without your knowledge or consent.
    07-04-2018 09:00 AM
  7. Adam Frix's Avatar
    One reason to stay with SMS instead of RCS: I use SMS Backup and Restore, which happily backs up my SMS and phone call logs every day, up to my Google Drive. If I have to restore the phone, or if I move to another phone, it's as simply as having the app restore everything.

    Also, Google Messages now works inside a web browser (in connection with your phone), so there's that.

    RCS is completely outside of all of this. There's no backing up and restoring any of that stuff.

    I like the idea of RCS, but I'll let a few years go by before moving to it. SMS works just great for me.

    I'm on T-Mobile in the US, and we're hearing that they'll implement it inside the stock Samsung app. Since I'm not using that, that's another reason not to move to RCS.

    I'm open to suggestions as to why I should move to RCS, though.
    rfortson likes this.
    07-04-2018 10:13 AM
  8. chanchan05's Avatar
    It's more an issue I guess for you since you're in the US. Samsung cloud backs up all messages the stock SMS app sees, so it won't be a problem unless your carrier is like Verizon that disabled Samsung Cloud themselves.



    One reason to stay with SMS instead of RCS: I use SMS Backup and Restore, which happily backs up my SMS and phone call logs every day, up to my Google Drive. If I have to restore the phone, or if I move to another phone, it's as simply as having the app restore everything.

    Also, Google Messages now works inside a web browser (in connection with your phone), so there's that.

    RCS is completely outside of all of this. There's no backing up and restoring any of that stuff.

    I like the idea of RCS, but I'll let a few years go by before moving to it. SMS works just great for me.

    I'm on T-Mobile in the US, and we're hearing that they'll implement it inside the stock Samsung app. Since I'm not using that, that's another reason not to move to RCS.

    I'm open to suggestions as to why I should move to RCS, though.
    07-04-2018 11:34 AM
  9. Adam Frix's Avatar
    But I don't think even Samsung can back up the RCS stuff--even if you're using their app. That's the whole point: RCS is so radically different than SMS, the standard SMS backup routines can't touch it.
    07-04-2018 01:14 PM
  10. bhatech's Avatar
    Personally prefer Android messages anyway much cleaner look and simpler. But I'm biased since I like Google apps more than Samsung apps since I have multiple Android phones and like to use same apps in all of them.

    It's interesting how this RCS implementation is going on with different carriers. Looks like a mess and fragmented.
    07-04-2018 02:20 PM
  11. SDTRMG's Avatar
    so has this only affected t-mobile users? or
    07-05-2018 04:07 AM
  12. mtweisenbarger's Avatar
    I am sticking with Samsung Messages for now mostly because of the close integration with my gear s3 frontier and customization (background/theme changes). As for those talking about google messages being available as a web client, Samsung Flow is the answer to that. It works great and has a phone mirror option so you can play your games on a pc screen.
    07-05-2018 09:31 AM
  13. eBud's Avatar
    Inertia makes me stay with Android messages. Brought it with me from BB DTEK60 to Galaxy s9+ (along with BB Keyboard and Messenger). Content with that so no reason to change now.
    07-05-2018 10:25 AM
  14. Brando504's Avatar
    I prefer samsung messages. I find I have more features and able to fully customize messages and dialer throughout whole phone with samsung theme store. That's a big deal breaker for me to customize without rooting or anything.
    07-05-2018 10:30 AM
  15. chanchan05's Avatar
    so has this only affected t-mobile users? or
    I'm not in the US so I can't say definitely and I don't experience it. But all reports I've seen say only T-Mobile.
    SDTRMG likes this.
    07-05-2018 11:19 AM
  16. skridder's Avatar
    My car system only reads the"native" app - so Android Messages it is.
    07-05-2018 01:36 PM
  17. Umbrokhan's Avatar
    I use Android Messages, i like quick reply feature.
    made it black mode with substratum theme engine
    rfortson likes this.
    07-05-2018 03:05 PM
  18. Rukbat's Avatar
    It's interesting how this RCS implementation is going on with different carriers. Looks like a mess and fragmented.
    About the way MMS was back in 2003-2004. First it worked when it wanted to, but it took a while after that was fixed (and it was carrier-dependent) before you could even send an MMS between carriers.

    At least RCS falls back to standard SMS. But in a few years, when it's all figured out, if they do what's being promised, we'll be using data (wifi or mobile data) for text and pictures. No carrier needed unless you're using mobile data. (And I'm sure the people who write SMS backup apps will be writing RCS backup apps. It's just a change in where the message is coming from, the rest of the backup and restore can stay the same.)
    07-05-2018 03:55 PM
  19. Adam Frix's Avatar
    I am sticking with Samsung Messages for now mostly because of the close integration with my gear s3 frontier and customization (background/theme changes). As for those talking about google messages being available as a web client, Samsung Flow is the answer to that. It works great and has a phone mirror option so you can play your games on a pc screen.
    ...except when you move OUT of the Samsung infrastructure.

    Samsung wants you to marry them just like Apple wants its users to marry them--for better or for worse, 'til death do you part.

    Sorry, I'm not marrying a single manufacturer's infrastructure. If they add value, great. But if it means being stuck with dealing with that single manufacturer no matter what, I'm outta here.
    07-05-2018 05:18 PM
  20. NationalBoss247's Avatar
    I dont use either I always seem to have problems with both wether it's messages not sending at all, or sending multiples on accident etc etc. I paid for Textra, and I use it as my default texting app. It's excellent, built well, and highly customizable. You can download it for free as a trial and test it out.
    07-05-2018 06:19 PM
  21. PerryKahai's Avatar
    RCS is available on the Samsung Messages app if you have the latest update. In fact, the latest slew of bugs that you will reported on the latest Samsung Messages app is about the RCS update which T Mobile pushed to it. So you actually lose stuff going to Android Messages, like the customizations, but you also lose the bug so that's good.
    TMobile pushed an RCS update to Samsung Messages app? What phone? I have an unlocked S8+ and don't see it.
    07-05-2018 07:05 PM
  22. kgardin's Avatar
    I use Pulse SMS. Works on every device.
    07-05-2018 09:05 PM
  23. chanchan05's Avatar
    TMobile pushed an RCS update to Samsung Messages app? What phone? I have an unlocked S8+ and don't see it.
    Started with the S7 variants.
    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/29/1...ing-samsung-s7
    07-05-2018 11:41 PM
  24. stmax's Avatar
    Geez. Just noticed a cool feature on my stock samsung app now. If you hold on the text message an option comes up to send to reminder. It then goes to my reminder widget to help me remember to reply later. Brilliant. So now I'm really torn about switching away from stock just for rcs.
    queenren likes this.
    07-14-2018 03:36 PM
  25. James Rogers2's Avatar
    RCS works with the Samsung stock messaging app. But I think it only works if both parties are on the same carrier. It works for me and I'm on at&t




    Nevermind that's advance messaging.
    07-14-2018 06:03 PM
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