09-27-2011 12:55 PM
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  1. dwaynewilliams#WN's Avatar
    I bought my wife and I Epic Touch 4G's today and while we really like them (I bought a Bionic one week ago that's going back no matter what but I'm not sure if we are sticking with Sprint though we REALLY want to keep the Epic Touch's).

    The phone is great - even the speaker is great for podcasts which is important for me (the Bionic better for music but for speech the Epic T is louder) and the camera is very good (while the Bionic's is horrible indoors and ok outdoors, video is different but very good on each).

    Anyway, the issue with our new phones - we get 1 to 2 bars and the speeds are for the most part pretty pitiful especially upload which is around 64kbps , download is sometimes up to 500 usually the 300 range - sdon'to'nt know if theranythingting that can be done - apparently updating PRL has no effect - is there anything we can do?

    Via the Sprint coverage map, we are in the 2nd from the best area ("goodcoverageseraage and "on Network' for 3G , no Wimax) .

    At the store which is a few miles away ,i noticed all of the phones seemed slowcouldn'toculdn't just like ours most of the timeyou-tube youtube video in HQ mode playing (that plays wellBionic Binonic 3G and my previous orig Droid and Wife's Eris).

    So is sprint just really slow for 3G - the under 100 kbps avg for upload and around 300 - 500 kbps upload?

    For the Bionic i constantly get 1,500 - 1800 kbps down and at lewhich00 up, hiwhc is a bit faster than on my Droid original but still the Droid was much faster than the Sprint Epic Touch when it comes to Speedtest.net app tests as well as the Speakeasy test within the browser and itbenchmarksust benmarks making our new Sprint phones seem slow, download an app - even a 2 - prettyapp is prett slow , crazy slow really....

    I'm going out of town for work soon so i don't have much time to try out the Epic and may have to return it today after only 2I'mrs so that i'm sure it's returned within the new shorter return period - but i don't want to rewith it - but wiI'mthe speeds i'm getting at home,if can use wi-fi (the phone flies!) at home but i don't want to end up I'mre anytime i'm out somewhere , i have to waiyou-tubeer for youtube videos to load and then they don't even play without stuttering / buffering constantly and just dealing with reaaccesslow data acess - this is kinda crazy,i know VZW is supposed to have a great network but i wouldn't expect for Sprint to be this slow, i just must be in a slow area and maybe there's some sort of update to perform on my phone? employeesrint employyes had no idea on how to activate the phone or any tips, they were super newbies - just as we are with Sprint's network but other than a PRL update what else can we do, plus apparently it seems that the PRL sprint codes do not even change that often , so an update won't have any effect.

    I'm just hoping thahavingehow after havin the phone, it will work better, desperate!

    As if i can't get respectable speeds, I'll have to return the Verizon and keep Verizono and I really , really want a Samsung G SII variation and though the screen is large on the Epic T, it's nearlythee same size as teh Bionic and lighter / screenr, guessall scfeen.

    I ugess i could wait for withzon to come out wiht a G SII type phone, hope it has a LOUD speaker such as the Epic Touch (the Droid Charge has a super low speaker as does to me the Nexus S) and a 4.5" screen! But I don't want to wait , please i hope there's a way to get a speed network increase with the Epic Touch.....

    thanks for any ideas / info
    What's up with your phone's keyboard?
    09-17-2011 06:25 AM
  2. pushdrops's Avatar
    What's up with your phone's keyboard?
    Pretty funny , barely had time to use epic touch last night and thought the keyboard was horrible, turned out it defaulted to swype , ha
    Installed the gingerbread keyboard stock and very happy , if only sprint speeds were at the least decent ...
    09-17-2011 07:54 AM
  3. hatsoffexpress's Avatar
    I can say this, the 4G goes to sleep and wakes up instantly. It's amazing. For the first time I may be able to rock a 4G signal throught an entire workday because of this feature. This phone, once ICS'ed is going to be Android on full swagger.
    09-17-2011 09:22 AM
  4. akarol's Avatar
    Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch.
    09-17-2011 10:06 AM
  5. akarol's Avatar
    So what is the deal, how can some people think the signal is really bad and others think it is very good?

    Are there different batches/builds, different factories, or do they just have very inconsistent quality?
    Because people lack common sense. Just because speeds are faster doesn't mean the signal is better. As far as range goes, the EVO is way better. The speeds are also dependent on the processing power, so the SGSII will win in that department.

    I'm somewhat disappointed to be honest.

    Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch.
    09-17-2011 10:09 AM
  6. Ricolando's Avatar
    I have to say my old epic would constantly roam in my house. Thus far my E4GT has had zero issues.

    Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk
    09-17-2011 10:38 AM
  7. sfhub's Avatar
    Because people lack common sense. Just because speeds are faster doesn't mean the signal is better. As far as range goes, the EVO is way better. The speeds are also dependent on the processing power, so the SGSII will win in that department.
    I don't think that explains someone with an OG Epic and E4GT saying their Epic used to roam all the time and the E4GT is solid. I don't believe so many people have no common sense and are mistaking speed for signal level.
    09-17-2011 11:02 AM
  8. YBCold's Avatar
    Sorry to hear that you are having issues with speed in your area, but it sounds to me your coverage is the problem not the phone. Maybe testing it out during your travels id you will be in a full coverage area (ie best coverage)

    Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk
    09-17-2011 11:12 AM
  9. clouser's Avatar
    So far I am pleased with cell call quality, and in-house data. Both 3G and even 4G seem decent, with around 1.5Mb for 4G. I know that's nothing compared to LTE, but in reality it's more than enough for me.

    My big problem is wifi... Where my other devices (Nook Color, HP TouchPad) are averaging 6-9Mb off my wifi router, I keep getting 200k-300k range speeds from the E4GT, when it isn't dropping connection
    09-17-2011 11:23 AM
  10. akarol's Avatar
    I don't think that explains someone with an OG Epic and E4GT saying their Epic used to roam all the time and the E4GT is solid. I don't believe so many people have no common sense and are mistaking speed for signal level.
    If you'd read my post carefully, you'd see that I am comparing the EVO and not he original Epic to the SG2.

    Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch.
    09-17-2011 12:08 PM
  11. sfhub's Avatar
    If you'd read my post carefully, you'd see that I am comparing the EVO and not he original Epic to the SG2.
    I was including the post after yours because I was reading bottom up and your post was a general statement to explain signal experiences.
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/spr...ml#post1265581

    The point is the same though. Side-by-side or in the same location, some people are having exact opposite experiences when comparing to their previous smartphones whether that be Evo, Evo3d, OG Epic, etc.

    It's not unheard of for companies to have bad batches, which they find too costly to weed out where they just let people use the return process to address. Of course, I don't know that is happening here. It is just one of many possible explanations. People might not understand dBm levels, there might be plants or fanboys. I'm just interested in getting down to the bottom of the signal level situation, regardless of what it turns out being. I think that would help many people.
    09-17-2011 12:27 PM
  12. nathy321's Avatar
    My only issue with the phone is the wifi signal sucks on this phone, my evo4g n 3d get full bars n this phone hardly ever gets full bars not even when I'm right next to the router, I think I might exchange it
    09-17-2011 02:40 PM
  13. Longie11's Avatar
    My only issue with the phone is the wifi signal sucks on this phone, my evo4g n 3d get full bars n this phone hardly ever gets full bars not even when I'm right next to the router, I think I might exchange it
    I gotta say I am having the same experience. Wifi sucks, only 5 feet from my router and I get 2 bars. Any father and I drop down more. Couldn't barely connect outside my house where I could go all the way across the street and still be fine with my pre. Other than that it destroys my pre in every other way.really happy with this phone.
    09-17-2011 04:06 PM
  14. dwaynewilliams#WN's Avatar
    I gotta say I am having the same experience. Wifi sucks, only 5 feet from my router and I get 2 bars. Any father and I drop down more. Couldn't barely connect outside my house where I could go all the way across the street and still be fine with my pre. Other than that it destroys my pre in every other way.really happy with this phone.
    I was having the same problem with my Nexus S 4G. Maybe Samsung makes weak wifi radios in their phones.
    09-17-2011 04:45 PM
  15. richjolliff#AC's Avatar
    The wifi on my Epic Touch is great. I used it this morninging in my back bedroom on the second floor this morning. No problems here.
    09-17-2011 05:08 PM
  16. sfhub's Avatar
    For people discussing 3g signal strength and comparing to their older phone it would be useful if you could post the dBm levels from ##DEBUG# for the phones you are comparing.
    09-17-2011 06:11 PM
  17. aog3's Avatar
    So far I love my SGII, but I noticed poor connections in some places that I had no issues before with the EVO 4G. One more thing to said, is that this Epic is not going back, the phone is super fast and responsive.
    09-18-2011 05:33 AM
  18. kimdushinski's Avatar

    What I REALLY hate is the onscreen keyboard. I was trying to fill in a text field that was at the bottom of a web page, and the onscreen keyboard sat itself on top so there was no way to see what I was typing. And it keeps trying to change things like usernames into words. Grrr! Hopefully some of that is a "user education" issue. I am used to typing one-handed on the Pre. I'll have to see if I can still do that with the ET. The level of accuracy required for an on-screen keyboard is much higher because you can't feel your way along to the right key.
    OK, that is what really has me worried....the keyboard thing. Has it gotten any better with another day under your belt? Is it possible to turn off that auto correct deal? I think that is going to make me crazy.
    09-18-2011 11:01 AM
  19. eyecon82's Avatar
    OK, that is what really has me worried....the keyboard thing. Has it gotten any better with another day under your belt? Is it possible to turn off that auto correct deal? I think that is going to make me crazy.
    it used to be on the evo 4g, that you press the menu key and the kb would disapear, not on this phone
    09-18-2011 11:51 AM
  20. energy177's Avatar
    can someone please post actual dbm level comparisons between the epic 4g touch and other phones? specifically im trying to decide whether or not to take back my photon and get the samsung. if dbm levels on the sammy are similar to that of the photon, ill take the sammy any day.
    09-18-2011 11:52 AM
  21. Gator352's Avatar
    Reception is one of my biggest concerns. My moPho slaughters any sprint phone I have owned in this department but I also am considering buying the SGSII if the reception is "as good" or "better" than the moPho. It just seems the moPho was a beta unit for the bionic and is buggier than a bug farm and I don't appreciate participating in a game I never wanted to play.
    09-18-2011 01:09 PM
  22. dwaynewilliams#WN's Avatar
    Reception is one of my biggest concerns. My moPho slaughters any sprint phone I have owned in this department but I also am considering buying the SGSII if the reception is "as good" or "better" than the moPho. It just seems the moPho was a beta unit for the bionic and is buggier than a bug farm and I don't appreciate participating in a game I never wanted to play.
    Dealing with bugs is a part of having Android. All of the new devices come with bugs out of the box. You have to stick it out through the updates. As long as there aren't any hardware issues, I wouldn't worry too much.
    09-18-2011 07:56 PM
  23. milominderbinde's Avatar
    EGS2 Radio is Better then my EVO 4G and EVO 3D
    Radio is rock solid Samsung & Sprint finally got it right
    We have two EVo 4G's, 2 EPic 4g's, and 1 Palm Pre.

    The Epic 4G signal strength is dramatically better than any of the others.

    I have tested outdoors, indoors, basement, etc. Also the Epic 4G Touch is much more willing to roam over onto Verizon (free on Everything plans). The Bluetooth also locks onto my car when it is in the driveway and I am inside!
    09-18-2011 08:44 PM
  24. akarol's Avatar
    We have two EVo 4G's, 2 EPic 4g's, and 1 Palm Pre.

    The Epic 4G signal strength is dramatically better than any of the others.

    I have tested outdoors, indoors, basement, etc. Also the Epic 4G Touch is much more willing to roam over onto Verizon (free on Everything plans). The Bluetooth also locks onto my car when it is in the driveway and I am inside!
    Prove it!
    09-19-2011 12:12 AM
  25. sfhub's Avatar
    We have two EVo 4G's, 2 EPic 4g's, and 1 Palm Pre.

    The Epic 4G signal strength is dramatically better than any of the others.

    I have tested outdoors, indoors, basement, etc. Also the Epic 4G Touch is much more willing to roam over onto Verizon (free on Everything plans). The Bluetooth also locks onto my car when it is in the driveway and I am inside!
    Please post side-by-side dBm levels. You can see the dBm in menu->settings->about phone->status

    Regarding roaming, once you get the latest PRL from Sprint, it'll disable all Verizon 3G roaming, only 1x.
    09-19-2011 12:19 AM
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