16 gigs is just way too small, I don't want to put stuff on the cloud.

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16 for me is fine I have only used up 3 gigs with everything I want on it.

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Geez I have a 8 gig with 3 gig of space left. I keep most of my music in the cloud and DL playlists and swap out weekly. I have drop box and box for photos and use WiFi as much as possible. How much music and video can one consume in a day??

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Why not get te 16GB model?
 
Judging off your first post, the Nexus 4 isn't for you. It would be like me complaining my Mustang has less cargo space than my parents Durango... Entirely different vehicles with different intended functions.

You claim 16GB is too small for a multimedia device. Well, the Nexus 4 isn't designed for that purpose. The N4 is a developer phone, a way for Google to push out it's latest and greatest updates promptly; the Nexus line is a testing ground; the Nexus is a budget smartphone at it's best.
 
Judging off your first post, the Nexus 4 isn't for you. It would be like me complaining my Mustang has less cargo space than my parents Durango... Entirely different vehicles with different intended functions.

You claim 16GB is too small for a multimedia device. Well, the Nexus 4 isn't designed for that purpose. The N4 is a developer phone, a way for Google to push out it's latest and greatest updates promptly; the Nexus line is a testing ground; the Nexus is a budget smartphone at it's best.

I would have agreed with you when the Nexus line was considered a developers phone and then 16Gb was more than enough. That all went out the window when Google started advertising the Nexus 4 to the masses. The Nexus phone will have 32 GB in the future... the only question is how soon. Google sure does not think it is a developers phone anymore...
 
I would have agreed with you when the Nexus line was considered a developers phone and then 16Gb was more than enough. That all went out the window when Google started advertising the Nexus 4 to the masses. The Nexus phone will have 32 GB in the future... the only question is how soon. Google sure does not think it is a developers phone anymore...

A couple, minimal, advertisements for all 3 devices seems next to irrelevant compared to the efforts Samsung and Apple go through to advertise their products.

Maybe one day the Nexus line will step up to that plate and swing for the fence, but, comparing advertising budgets and sales figures of Nexus devices, it would seem that is not the case yet.

Of course there will be a 32GB Nexus, though that has little affect on the market the Nexus line is currently aimed at.
 
A couple, minimal, advertisements for all 3 devices seems next to irrelevant compared to the efforts Samsung and Apple go through to advertise their products.

Maybe one day the Nexus line will step up to that plate and swing for the fence, but, comparing advertising budgets and sales figures of Nexus devices, it would seem that is not the case yet.

Of course there will be a 32GB Nexus, though that has little affect on the market the Nexus line is currently aimed at.

Agreed, but the rules have changed with the price and the age of the pre paid, no contact plans. The Nexus 4 has attracted almost as many noobs as seasoned Android users. I think we will see marketing ramp up as they get closer to IO and of course the Nexus 5. I get by with 16GB but also have a Note 2 with a 64 GB micro SD card, two extremes!

I think HTC learned the hard way that if you are not going to have a micro SD card you need to have at least 32GB internal storage. If Nexus 4 was not $350 and unlocked it would be in the same shape as the HTC phones that never made it. Look at the sales of the initial lines of Nexus phones compared with Nexus 4. Google is sometimes slow to change but they will eventually! I was actually surprised when they increased the Nexus 7 to 32 GB so quickly.
 
Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus 4. I love the fact that it is pure Android and that the N4 will be the first phone to get Key Lime Pie, but Google should have at least given the option of a 32 gig phone. For the people that say, "You can't listen to all that music in one sitting," I totally agree, but am I supposed to delete and add music every time I go out the door. Also, there are some areas that service isn't good, my gym being one of them, so either I wait for a good single to stream a song, or make room on my phone and not have any issues with network connectivity. Moreover, I like to download movies and tv shows and play it on my phone when I am at the gym, and it is impossible to put a 300+ meg video on the phone without getting the storage warning. The LG phone that the N4 is forked off of does have 32 gig storage.
 
Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus 4. I love the fact that it is pure Android and that the N4 will be the first phone to get Key Lime Pie, but Google should have at least given the option of a 32 gig phone. For the people that say, "You can't listen to all that music in one sitting," I totally agree, but am I supposed to delete and add music every time I go out the door. Also, there are some areas that service isn't good, my gym being one of them, so either I wait for a good single to stream a song, or make room on my phone and not have any issues with network connectivity. Moreover, I like to download movies and tv shows and play it on my phone when I am at the gym, and it is impossible to put a 300+ meg video on the phone without getting the storage warning. The LG phone that the N4 is forked off of does have 32 gig storage.
They made a phone for the average user and most users don't need 32 gigs of space just like most drivers don't nerd a car to go zero to 60 in 4 seconds. If you knew that 16g wasn't enough why did you buy it?


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That's an excellent question. It's not like Google was pulling a Pelosi where you had to buy the phone to find out what's in it. :D :D

For some people having the vanilla android and immediate updates to the OS is more slightly important than storage so they bought it even though they knew 16 gigs wasn't quite enough. Doesn't mean they wouldn't like more storage...

It's pretty clear there are 2 camps here: Those who are ok with less space and are willing to swap out their media dialy/weekly/etc. and those who just want more space to load up their devices and not have to worry about managing it as often. There's no right or wrong way to do things. But, for those who keep arguing that 16 gigs is enough for anybody, keep in mind that what works for you doesn't work for everyone. Would it really hurt anything if Google offered a version with more storage for a higher price, for those who want it? Everyone wins that way.
 
There is always a trade off. You have to decide what is more important to YOU.

Do you want more storage memory or pure Android with nothing in the way?

By already giving Google your money you have told them you are fine with the 16GB that comes on board.
 
You're missing a third camp. Those who are OK with 16GB (or even 8GB) and never swap out anything, because that's enough space for them. I'm aware that some people want more storage and I have no problem with that, just as I have no problem with people choosing a 10" (or larger) tablet instead of the 7" that I prefer. However, I reserve the right to roll my eyes at people who buy a 7" tablet and complain the screen is just too small... or buy a 10" tablet and complain it doesn't fit in their pocket.
 
Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus 4. I love the fact that it is pure Android and that the N4 will be the first phone to get Key Lime Pie, but Google should have at least given the option of a 32 gig phone. For the people that say, "You can't listen to all that music in one sitting," I totally agree, but am I supposed to delete and add music every time I go out the door. Also, there are some areas that service isn't good, my gym being one of them, so either I wait for a good single to stream a song, or make room on my phone and not have any issues with network connectivity. Moreover, I like to download movies and tv shows and play it on my phone when I am at the gym, and it is impossible to put a 300+ meg video on the phone without getting the storage warning. The LG phone that the N4 is forked off of does have 32 gig storage.

No you aren't supposed to delete and add music. You're supposed to simply pin and unpin them from your Google music. :) The Nexus 4 was made to enjoy content, but it wasn't made to store huge amounts of it.

It's true that the LG's non nexus version has more storage. It also has LTE. But it also costs considerably more than the Nexus 4. The price is one of the most attractive features of the Nexus 4.

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No you aren't supposed to delete and add music. You're supposed to simply pin and unpin them from your Google music.

I've never understood how pin/unpin works. For example, the other day I accidentally unpinned a song that I wanted. So I pinned it again, and the N4 downloaded it. But why did it have to download it when it was already on the device? Seems like a waste of bandwidth. Doesn't unpinning just indicate that that block of memory can be overwritten? Or does unpinning cause it to be wiped immediately?
 
I've never understood how pin/unpin works. For example, the other day I accidentally unpinned a song that I wanted. So I pinned it again, and the N4 downloaded it. But why did it have to download it when it was already on the device? Seems like a waste of bandwidth. Doesn't unpinning just indicate that that block of memory can be overwritten? Or does unpinning cause it to be wiped immediately?

the default behavour is that unpinning it will delete it. the play music app will cache up to 2GB of un-pinned music at a time, but pinned music is separate from that.
 
You're missing a third camp. Those who are OK with 16GB (or even 8GB) and never swap out anything, because that's enough space for them. I'm aware that some people want more storage and I have no problem with that, just as I have no problem with people choosing a 10" (or larger) tablet instead of the 7" that I prefer. However, I reserve the right to roll my eyes at people who buy a 7" tablet and complain the screen is just too small... or buy a 10" tablet and complain it doesn't fit in their pocket.

Exactly I'm happy with a 16GB model, it's enough for me.
 
Judging off your first post, the Nexus 4 isn't for you. It would be like me complaining my Mustang has less cargo space than my parents Durango... Entirely different vehicles with different intended functions.

You claim 16GB is too small for a multimedia device. Well, the Nexus 4 isn't designed for that purpose. The N4 is a developer phone, a way for Google to push out it's latest and greatest updates promptly; the Nexus line is a testing ground; the Nexus is a budget smartphone at it's best.

Agreed. Also the N4 is meant to be a phone. It is meant to have must have apps, and content that you NEED to have with you at all times. No one needs to have 40 gigs of music, ten 1080p movies, 500 apps/games, and 7000 pictures with them at all times. You need to have a media consumption device with you, they make the N7.

At the end of the day though, if 12.93 GB of space is not enough, don't buy the phone. Get a phone with more storage and/or a SD card slot. The Nexus line will always have lower storage (Keeps the cost down, plus google would like you to use the "cloud", which I don't), and no SD Card support (the last 3 Nexus phones did not have one and Google does not support it in the OS). But that is the tradeoff we make for prompt updates, no bloat, carrier logos, and cheap top of the line devices.
 
No you aren't supposed to delete and add music. You're supposed to simply pin and unpin them from your Google music. :) The Nexus 4 was made to enjoy content, but it wasn't made to store huge amounts of it.

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Great point. Forgot about that, even though I just pinned three albums from GMusic yesterday.
 
On a trip to Australia I was running low on space (16Gb) due to photos. I have my music in FLAC (lossless format) which doesn't help. Anyone using a Wifi harddrive which seems to be the answer for those of us who need more space?
 
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