This would only be a flaw if it was a mistake. What it is, is a lack of a feature that you want. The same argument could be made about a 'flame thrower'. Someone might want it, is not including it a flaw? As you alluded to in another post, different devices appeal to different people for different reasons. The point isn't to put every feature under the sun into every device, it's for OEM's to strike what they think is a balance of features, price, design, etc. and let you vote with your dollars whether or not they were right.
16 gigs is just way too small, I don't want to put stuff on the cloud.
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This would only be a flaw if it was a mistake. What it is, is a lack of a feature that you want. The same argument could be made about a 'flame thrower'. Someone might want it, is not including it a flaw? As you alluded to in another post, different devices appeal to different people for different reasons. The point isn't to put every feature under the sun into every device, it's for OEM's to strike what they think is a balance of features, price, design, etc. and let you vote with your dollars whether or not they were right.
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I think everyone should be pushing to have a minimum of 32GB on the Nexus phones. Sadly, many people get excited at the price point and then have to make due. Why not different 16, 32 and 64 GB sizes. My house and car are not the same size as yours (I am a Texan after all) so why should my Nexus be? The cloud is slow. Nothing like having your "stuff" in local storage.
Removing choice is never good! Goggle needs to change with the times. I would gladly pay 600+ for the 32GB HTC One or S4 with stock android than pay 350 for a 16GB Nexus. As a Goggle shareholder I want them to offer choices and raise the prices lol!
Removing choice is never good! Goggle needs to change with the times. I would gladly pay 600+ for the 32GB HTC One or S4 with stock android than pay 350 for a 16GB Nexus. As a Goggle shareholder I want them to offer choices and raise the prices lol!
...that would have cost little or nothing to add.
And I am clearly not the only one who wants it. I did not start this thread.
It is great that Google designed a phone just for you. I wish they did the same for me.
You're not, not by a long shot; and however we shouldn't assume the OP does either. They specifically wanted a larger on board storage options. I'm not sure what the cost is, but the device it's based on did come in LTE versions, 32GB versions and versions with SD Cards, so my assumption is they took the cheapest of those options, but I have no idea how they selected which one they wanted from what LG presented. It may have been as simple as Google saying, "It's going to cost $349" and LG said, "here's the best you can do for that price point".
You're 100% right in that it'd be cool if they had higher internal storage because it gives people more options. But I have to disagree that it's a mistake not to include it, unless that mistake translates into boycotting by a massive part of the base. The numbers seem to be telling them that 16GB is enough for most people. Of the 3 options listed above, I would have opted for a 32GB version, then LTE then an SD card (assuming I couldn't wish for a CDMA version), I'm sure you're order on those wishlist items would be different.
IIRC the cost to them for increased storage size is around $12 per device (16 is $12 more than 8, 32 is $12 more than 16, etc). That's from a breakdown of Apple component costs from a couple years ago, comparing the $12 to the $100 more they charge for nothing except for that change.
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Do you think the Google Editions are going to hurt the Nexus base? Do you think these were a way to give more choice and still offer pure android?
I don't think they're going to hurt the Nexus line at all. There may be some overlap, but if anything it could get people more on board with the stock experience that weren't willing to try it because of only having 16GB or no LTE, etc, which they can now get in the Google Experience. Personally, I don't get why someone wouldn't just buy the standard version and flash an AOSP rom, but I want them to buy these things to show support to the projects.
Best case scenario for me is that every flagship has this AOSP option, that way people like JeffDenver can have AOSP + SD card, I can have the Nexus, the people who love the One mostly because of build materials and design aesthetics can have that with 32GB onboard, etc. Very happy to see Sony jumping on the cart. But, Play Store availability isn't enough. If they're only going to be available in the US (this is a strategy flaw, we're only 5% of the world), then carrier support is a must to see massive adoption.
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Is it just me or am I the only one that thinks AOSP sounds good but they just do not live up to the Nexus regarless of model it is installed on?
All three statements here are correct. SD card support was not discontinued because of the cost. There are a bunch of issues, including security, stability, data integrity, transfer speeds and IP issues with Microsoft. Kevin linked this article yesterday from Jerry, form the Nexus 7 release last year: http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card
In my opinion, they don't live up to themselves (the GE S4 is inferior to the TouchWiz one, etc) and they don't live up the Nexus. But having them as options is better than not having them, and there are a lot of people who were begging for exactly this solution. Now I'd just love to see them add their distinguishing features back in, without changing the base. Strip the features out into apps that can run on AOSP, make them available only to specific devices and shave down the bloat. Touchwiz doesn't have to be ugly and laggy in order to offer you a different camera app, they made a decision to do it that way.
The cloud is amazingly fast here, but in no way should Google have relied on it to replace local storage before it actually was everywhere and affordable to average joe schmoe. Carriers seem to be moving in exactly the opposite direction of Google. I wonder if the OP should also be considering the Vanilla One.
If you are so smart, you should possibly find a better job that pays more money and buy the most expensive phone you can get with tons of memory, and let us poor , uneducated folks enjoy our inexpensive 16GB devices.
Bro I only got 2gb of internal storage but thanks to Dropbox g+ and Google play music I'm cool and that's amazing seeing as I just came from a 32gb Gnex.
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Why should I be pushing to lose my choice to pay less money and only get the storage I need? If you need more storage, pay for it yourself instead of expecting me to subsidize your choice.
You can go out and get an Android phone with as much memory as your wallet can stand. Why do you keep insisting that Google should change their business model for you? If you really, honestly, sincerely think Google is making a bad business decision, here's your opportunity to COWBOY UP like a true Texan and become a billionaire with your visionary business model.
I suppose that depends who you are. There's a cost to offering more choices. If a company is at the point where the cost exceeds the benefit, removing some choices may be good for them. if there is true demand, that opens the door to a niche player and everybody wins.
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Helps to have unlimited unthrottled data. If you can't afford that and still require huge local storage, this phone is definitely not for you.
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Not true. Here are 2 I instantly found that have their own battery source.
Wi-Fi hard drive showdown: Corsair Voyager vs. Seagate Wireless Plus | PCWorld
I guess I forget/never knew that the n4 did not provide the necessary power even for a thumb drive. That's lame. I'm a happy occasional user of usb otg on my 8gb n7. Fortunately, space is less of an issue for me on my 16 gb n4 (have 9 gbs free atm).
Android Advanced: USB OTG on the Nexus 4 | Android Central
Android Advanced: USB OTG on the Nexus 4 | Android Central
Who is stopping you from doing so? Who has said you should not be allowed to buy inexpensive 16GB devices? How will giving the rest of us a choice prevent you from getting what you want?
I stand corrected. That is definitely as easy and elegant as including an SD card.
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