16 gigs is just way too small, I don't want to put stuff on the cloud.

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Yes. This is the point I have been trying to make. You want the Nexus to make versions to fit everyone's every conceivable need
They do not need to make multiple versions. Adding SD would not have taken anything away from the people who did not need it. Everyone would have been satisfied.

If there were 2 versions, one with SD and one without (otherwise identical), NO ONE would buy the non-SD version at the same price. No one prefers fewer choices.
 
Did we just come full circle to forgetting why they removed it?

Transmitted through spacetime.
 
You are assuming everyone is a phone nerd...not everyone's life revolves around cell phones.
You are in love with the term "phone nerd". I explicitly stated that one needs not be a phone nerd to know the basic concept of storage. So I can only assume that you keep putting that charge up because you know your argument is weak. That people make decisions to buy with different storage options available (and not just for phones - phones aren't the first thing we have ever had with storage capacity in a small device) is in and of itself evidence that the average buyer knows how much storage they're getting. Not *everyone,* but the average buyer.

LOL! Sieg Heil!
Yes, accuse your opponents of being Nazis. Excellent debate tactic.

Um...I have said many times on here that I love my phone. What exactly makes you think I don't like the choice I have made?
Your constant whining, moaning, feet-stomping and accusing someone supporting the decision Google made of being a Nazi.
 
Did we just come full circle to forgetting why they removed it?
I think we already agree on WHY they removed it...because Google wants you to use the cloud. If they make local storage uncomfortable enough, you will use the cloud. Google has lots of cloud services, so they have an incentive. I think most of us agree that they are not removing SD for cost reasons, but to support a "use teh cloud n00b" agenda.

IMO, their future policy on SD will depend on how many people get pissed off about it.
 
You are in love with the term "phone nerd".
It's an accurate description IMO. And I include myself in that category. But most people are not phone nerds.

I explicitly stated that one needs not be a phone nerd to know the basic concept of storage.
You are free to disagree with me if you want to. My own experiences are not consistent with that view.

Yes, accuse your opponents of being Nazis.
You completely missed the point of that comment. LOL

Let me clarify: I was implying that you are embracing an authoritarian view consistent with the views of Steve jobs (closed and inflexible). And traditionally at odds with Android, which is open and flexible.

Um...I have said many times on here that I love my phone. What exactly makes you think I don't like the choice I have made?
Your constant whining, moaning, feet-stomping and accusing someone supporting the decision Google made of being a Nazi.
Then you have not been paying attention.

For the record, I love this phone despite it's flaws, and have said so many times on here.
 
LOL! I have spent 18 pages trying to tell them this.

People get emotionally invested in their phone choice on here, and when you criticize the phone, they take it personally.

You sir, sound like you are ready to have a nervous breakdown over this topic.You should learn to chill a bit, maybe get some kind of hobby or something. You are going to have a stroke one of these days.
 
I think we already agree on WHY they removed it...because Google wants you to use the cloud. If they make local storage uncomfortable enough, you will use the cloud. Google has lots of cloud services, so they have an incentive. I think most of us agree that they are not removing SD for cost reasons, but to support a "use teh cloud n00b" agenda.

IMO, their future policy on SD will depend on how many people get pissed off about it.

False on both counts. We've been over this half a dozen times, at least: SD support was removed for performance, data integrity and security reasons ... the push to the cloud is part of their solution, given their goals and philosophies as an organization. We agree it's not an ideal solution for 100% of people. There are no circumstances under which I would foresee them backtracking to regressive technology rather than innovating a better solution.

This has been explained multiple times and a good entry way to the specific reasons can be found here: Why Nexus devices have no SD card | Android Central . While I get that you think the push to the cloud is the primary motivation and that you've never personally had issues with SD cards, the bottom line is that it's incredibly unlikely that we'll ever see an SD card in another Nexus again.
 
Did we just come full circle to forgetting why they removed it?

Transmitted through spacetime.

Lol, yes. 18 pages of whining that the N4 doesn't have SD, you would think it would be more satisfying to just go sit in a corner somewhere and cry.

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You completely missed the point of that comment. LOL
No, I did not. You did. Using Nazi references in any context not fully warranting it is wrong, morally reprehensible, hurtful and disrespectful to the memory of 6 million people who perished. It needs to be called out.

Let me clarify: I was implying that you are embracing an authoritarian view consistent with the views of Steve jobs (closed and inflexible). And traditionally at odds with Android, which is open and flexible.
The term doesn't apply with respect to Google's decision at all because Google isn't forcing anyone to buy the Nexus 4, even if they want Android. You misjudge what it means to be open and flexible. Because it is open and flexible, you have the choice of other phones. Google isn't even mandating SD support out of Android. Google is making a phone without it. That someone else isn't offering you exactly what you want (vanilla Android with a SD slot for $350) is not Google's problem, nor evidence of its authoritarianism. If I make something, and you want an option on it and I don't provide you with that option, you have the option not to buy what I made. That's not me being an authoritarian.
 
I realize the best solution for some of you is to buy a 4x4TB raid nas server, attach it to a wifi bridge. Put it in the truck of your car and use a couple 1500 VA ups battery to maintain power while you are out so you have it tether to phone for all data needs. That way wherever you go, you always have your data.

I like it!! What a great idea! Checking Amazon right now!!!
 
No, I did not. You did. Using Nazi references in any context not fully warranting it is wrong, morally reprehensible, hurtful and disrespectful to the memory of 6 million people who perished.It needs to be called out.
You should report me for it then.

The term doesn't apply with respect to Google's decision at all
This link might help. Analogy | What is the Definition of Analogy? | Dictionary.com

That someone else isn't offering you exactly what you want (vanilla Android with a SD slot for $350) is not Google's problem, nor evidence of its authoritarianism.
I disagree. But I was not really calling Google themselves authoritarian. I was saying that you prefer the authoritarian methods implied by the "my way or the highway" approach to features.
 
Lol, yes. 18 pages of whining that the N4 doesn't have SD, you would think it would be more satisfying to just go sit in a corner somewhere and cry.
The same could be said for all the people that have spent 18 pages criticizing people for not liking an aspect of the Nexus 4.

Why do other people's opinions offend them so much?
 
This has been explained multiple times and a good entry way to the specific reasons can be found here: Why Nexus devices have no SD card | Android Central . While I get that you think the push to the cloud is the primary motivation and that you've never personally had issues with SD cards, the bottom line is that it's incredibly unlikely that we'll ever see an SD card in another Nexus again.
I disagree that it is incredibly unlikely. If Google really disliked SD so much, I doubt they would be supporting a vanilla S4. Google is support the S4 directly with updates.

IMO, they are testing the waters. I'm hardly the only one who has complained about it...even many reviewers have. So yes, I think Google is aware of the criticism. Just not the magnitude of it.
 
You should report me for it then.
I did.

I speak English.

I disagree. But I was not really calling Google themselves authoritarian. I was saying that you prefer the authoritarian methods implied by the "my way or the highway" approach to features.
Lol if you aren't calling Google authoritarian, then you can't call my support of it supporting authoritarianism. I may not be the one here that needs a dictionary. Besides, I and several others explained to you why this isn't "my way or the highway." It's "my way or take one of the 100 other ways." You just don't like any of those other ways either. You put yourself on the highway, and blame others for it.
 
IMO, they are testing the waters. I'm hardly the only one who has complained about it...even many reviewers have. So yes, I think Google is aware of the criticism. Just not the magnitude of it.
Or maybe you overestimate the magnitude, just because the intensity of your own criticism is so high.
 
The same could be said for all the people that have spent 18 pages criticizing people for not liking an aspect of the Nexus 4.

Why do other people's opinions offend them so much?

I disagree that it is incredibly unlikely. If Google really disliked SD so much, I doubt they would be supporting a vanilla S4. Google is support the S4 directly with updates.

IMO, they are testing the waters. I'm hardly the only one who has complained about it...even many reviewers have. So yes, I think Google is aware of the criticism. Just not the magnitude of it.

It is not that they are offended by your opinion. It is that you have to harp on it and harp on it and keep calling it a design flaw. It is not a design flaw. It is a business decision that Google made for the N4. Google could care less about the small percentage that don't like it. You know why? Because there are many other devices that run Android and have SD that could be had. Now, Google is fixing to provide two devices that will have stock Android and SD, so it will be time for those that are disappointed to pony up. What I think will be most interesting is what direction Google goes with the Nexus X.

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It is not that they are offended by your opinion. It is that you have to harp on it and harp on it and keep calling it a design flaw. It is not a design flaw. It is a business decision that Google made for the N4. Google could care less about the small percentage that don't like it. You know why? Because there are many other devices that run Android and have SD that could be had. Now, Google is fixing to provide two devices that will have stock Android and SD, so it will be time for those that are disappointed to pony up. What I think will be most interesting is what direction Google goes with the Nexus X.

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Trying to reason with this person is like talking to a bag of hammers. You are wasting your time.

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I never understood the reason for excessive internal storage. If the phone crashes and burns, you lose everything you spent hours loading.
I prefer cloud storage for my pics and music I purchase. And of course backed up on an external hard drive for safe keeping.
When I stream my music, I disable mobile data and use WIFI.
I guess everyone has their preferences.

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