2.2 date for D2 before X is whack!!!
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Heated? Limelight? Your kidding right? It doesn't matter what phone you get where, it will be overshadowed in a couple months anyway, that's just life! Deal because you can't do ANYTHING about it! If you have a great phone, that you like why in the heck does it matter whats released after?
You aren't looking at it from our perspective. Of course we're happy with our phones, we love them. We can see past the simple marketing and know that eventually yes we will have 2.2 and enjoy the benefits. The thing that is erking us is that we should already HAVE 2.2 if it weren't for the Droid 2 stealing the show. It WAS planned to be the first phone with Froyo on Verizon, and even though "late summer" falls into mid september, with the hype and marketing Verizon, Motorola and Adobe put out (see above picture) we sort of expected it sooner rather than later. I'm willing to bet all those rumors saying the D1, DInc and DX planned to receive Froyo in early August were spot on, then at the last minute Verizon forced the updates to be put on hold so the D2 has a one up over everyone else for a set amount of time. How is that even remotely close to a superior phone being cast aside for a month for no reason?
I can live with it and I do, because like you said there's nothing anyone can do short from miraculously breaking the bootloader and installing your own kernel. But considering I and many others were fed all this 2.2 hype all the way up to the release on July 15th we feel VERY tossed aside. Please don't try to compare it to anything else as its not. Its its own situation and its frustrating to say the least. I'm trying real hard to not come off as a whiner but what can I say this is pure rant right here lol.
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I agree that the plan probably was to have 2.2 on the DX before todays Flash/Android summit by Adobe...but your ire is misplaced. It's not marketing for the D2 that made them skip the DX, it's the bug fixes they need to develop and test. Moto is keenly aware on their official forums that there are several issues with the DX right now, including the GPS/CPU sleep bug that hurts battery life, and of course the whole exchange issue. Just today even more bugs were found (and confirmed) there. The are trying to fix those asap so they can roll them out with Froyo. I realize that if you don't need exchange, or if you have fine battery life as is, then these aren't big deals, but a large number of customers are being impacted, and they are trying to get it right. The fact that they are spending their own money to give out copies of a paid market exchange app until they can fix it in the Froyo OTA should tell you how hard they are working on it...they certainly don't want to have to pay for any more copies then they need to.
It can't come soon enough for you, me, or most other users that are into their phones, but that's not the same thing as the company just ignoring us, or not caring. Moto has had its share of missteps (including their current and recent launches) but they seem to be working very hard to resolve them right now, which is why I've been pushing back when people make claims of wrongdoing or lack of interest; the data at hand just doesn't justify that conclusion IMO.
That said, I really do share your excitement. In fact, I have a good friend that is developing some Flash-based apps that I am helping with, and believe me, I am dying to test them on my phone and not just my desktop.
It can't come soon enough for you, me, or most other users that are into their phones, but that's not the same thing as the company just ignoring us, or not caring. Moto has had its share of missteps (including their current and recent launches) but they seem to be working very hard to resolve them right now, which is why I've been pushing back when people make claims of wrongdoing or lack of interest; the data at hand just doesn't justify that conclusion IMO.
That said, I really do share your excitement. In fact, I have a good friend that is developing some Flash-based apps that I am helping with, and believe me, I am dying to test them on my phone and not just my desktop.
I hear ya ottscay and am grateful you are defending it in such a mature manner. I respect that and will quietly resign from repeating this debate. It really doesn't do anything but cause drama within the community and I don't want to come off on the wrong foot. I am content with remaining hopeful that motorola is doing good deeds and is holding back so they can roll fixes into the release. I'd just hate for the day to come and the only fix we get is exchange.
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Let's just say that if that does turn out to be the case, I'll be pleading your cause
Honestly, it's really all good. I think everyone shares your enthusiasm (even if we aren't all as good at expressing it). I mean heck, I too want to own the Nexus and the OG on those benchmarks, so us me some JiT goodness, right??? And as I said, I really am dying to use Flash. I just feel like criticizing companies works best when it's targeted and accurate (if you poke around the forums enough, you'll find me being much more critical over the HDMI-out issue). But seriously, September can't come early enough, and I also hope when 2.2 goes OTA I can stop using the dang GPS toggle just to save on battery life!
People always need to b**ch about something. If Motorola released Froyo without the fixes/patches, they would be screaming bloody hell about it. Motorola is taking the time to squash as many bugs as possible and fix most of or all of the known bugs the DX has now and people are b**thing that it's taking so long. People....do you have a life outside of this? Where you the kids in the back seat of your parents car screaming "are we there yet" and then when you finally get there you start screaming "when can we go home?".
When it's ready, it's ready. Motorola is doing everything in their powers to address all issues and even put up an "official" Froyo 2.2 update page that you can sign up for....stop trying to rush it!!
When it's ready, it's ready. Motorola is doing everything in their powers to address all issues and even put up an "official" Froyo 2.2 update page that you can sign up for....stop trying to rush it!!
Just a couple of words here...from a happy X owner, but also knowing I purchased this phone KNOWING it was locked down. Yes, it gave me pause before deciding to get the X. But, I went ahead anyway, hoping that someday it would have an unlocked bootloader. I also knew it was going to be a tough nut to crack. All this is why I'm not chafing at the bit for 2.2. When it's ready for primetime, it will be made available to us.
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lol, thats says it all ,this is still better then what I had(8330 bb) ,even without the update
I want the update also but I want to be able to get the minor fixes they were talking about, Wouldnt you want your droid x to be able to work to its fullest capicity hopefully without any problems. I do and Good things comes to those who are willing to wait. Be patient everyone Sept will be here before you know it
The limelight?
Dude who cares, these are phones, not fashion statements.
We'll get it eventually.
You obviously don't understand what I meant by that.
But since I already said I'm done trying to argue with such patient people I've already quietly stepped back lol
This whole thread feels like when someone legitimately tries to express why they feel they got jipped and then all the internet tough guys come out and scream "QQ" or "whiners" and basically belittle their stance just because they don't feel the same.
If someone feels they got screwed, then they got screwed. Of course things could be worse here guys we're talking about freaking phones for Christs sake. There are people who can't even eat on a daily basis, this isn't nor should it be on the top of our worry list. We are just unhappy with the turn of events in how Motorola decided to release their products. That's all.
I really think a Mod should lock this thread though.
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