6+ months is too, too, long.....

[Mellimel22]

That's because the sprint version is 4.0.4

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[ultravisitor]

Anyways just sucks that I paid a 1200.00 ETF fee for my family to go to Verizon and get a phone we have assumed would work and got the shaft.

Sorry, but that was just plain stupid.

 

[slave2theaxe]

You can't argue that the phone is perfect if you're not stock as there would be no reason to root and rom if the phone were perfect.

Bone stock and locked and working just fine thanks...as is my wife's and several other friends.

There are plenty of working GNex out there. You would like for all of them to be flawed to justify your statement, but it simply isn't so. As much as you may not want to admit it, you sir, are the minority.

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[trivor]

I admit, I see these threads all over, not just here. A ton of people are really pissed. This device failed to deliver with Verizon at the helm. I don't think there will be a pure Verizon Nexus? You have a 25% chance of getting a good device from what I read...good luck.

I am a Android freak when iOS is down. You don't even understand how much money I spent and how bad I wanted a good Nexus....that was the goal. I would way rather go with a ONE or a GS3...grab a Nexus from Google @ 399, it isn't even worth that headache unless you are willing to spend your life tweaking it. This device wont even make it to next year at this time....time is up. IMHO.

So is this Verizon's fault or Samsung? Samsung made the phone and Verizon expects their OEMs to make good hardware. If you haven't tried to get a working phone then whose fault is it? The other major point is everyone that buys a release device and expects it to be perfect out of the box. Even with extensive testing of hardware/software there are still bugs that don't come out until there are 1000's of users. You can't have it both ways - bleeding edge hardware/software and top notch reliability (look at all the **** Apple users put up with - you're holding it wrong and now we'll give you a free bumper to cover up a major engineering flaw - look at the Verizon iPhone to see how they fixed it). There's a pretty easy fix to this - wait at least three months after release (Thunderbolt anyone?) before buying a new phone. Patience is a virtue.

 

[upz3]

I love everyone complains. Outside of an Apple phone name me a well rounded perfectly working Android phone? Especially ever on Verizon. It doesn't happen. This is a great phone. 4.0.2 to 4.0.4 really.... who cares. It's not like 4.5 or 5.0 has been out. Google has closed their upgrades to lesser releases.

 

[Andrew Ruffolo]

This is what people like yourself said when everyone was having problems with their Fascinate. Eventually Verizon said, "screw it", and gave everyone with a Fascinate a choice of 3 phones. Personally, my complaining about that piece of crap paid off. "Working with Verizon" as you say, will do absolutely nothing. Everyone's phone has the same problem, including yours before you rooted and rom'ed.


What is the point of going through phone after phone after phone that all have the same hardware/software/design problem?


You just contradicted yourself with this statement. You "understand", but you find it "illogical"? Maybe you really don't understand.


Personally, I have no problem rooting, but why is it so hard to imagine that ROOTING/ROM'ing IS NOT FOR EVERYONE!!!! And here are just a few reasons why:

1) Rooting is risky. It's a small to moderate risk, but it's still a risk. That's why everyone puts a DISCLAIMER in their instructions. If you aren't careful, and sometimes EVEN IF YOU ARE, you can really screw up your phone. And if that happens, help is not always readily available to correct it.

2) Rooting will void your warranty. That can make some people a little uneasy. Sure, in some cases you can go back to stock, but you gotta agree that to the novice, it can be just as difficult (if not more) to return to stock.

3) Rooting is never a sure thing. Sometimes roms can become unstable and other problems may arise with going from rom to rom. When I had my Fascinate, for some reason, a rom would work fine for a couple of weeks, and all of a sudden become unstable. Bottom line, if you root, prepare to be "all in". Some may not be prepared for all that.

4) Is it so hard to understand people get pissed when they are misled? I expect my phone to operate as advertised. How many people would've got a GNex if you told them they would have to sacrifice the most basic functionality of their device unless they ROOT their device?

I find it sad that when you pay hundreds of dollars for a device and go into a 2-year contract agreement for a device that admittedly by many doesn't work as advertised, many of you view our complaints as "whining" and "crying". When did it become wrong to want to get exactly what you paid for?

My phone isn't rooted or rom'd and I have no issues with this phone... actually I've only had issues with 2 phones... the first palm pre which is just a piece of crap and my first thunderbolt (constant reboots). You know what I did? I had Verizon swap out the thunderbolt for another brand new one ( not a refurb roxors one) within my 14 day window just like everyone here could have. So no I don't have sympathy for those who don't read the return period on your receipt.

Btw, I believe this isn't a widespread issue. You don't hear people complain about a fully functional device. One the pre forums, there were literally hundreds of threads about the poor manufacturing. For a phone no one bought, that's a lot. Also you don't hear reviewers complain about it either.


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[Speedygi]

Get an IPad if you are frustrated with inconsistencies but stay with GNex for Verizon as you long as you can, cause you are going to miss out on Android sooner or later...

 

[luke31]

The problem with your theory is that there are hundreds of you on this forum that don't necessarily "start" threads on this subject but chime in and say yours is the "perfect phone" or "not having any issues" yet you ALL have rooted and rom'd your phones to solve these issues. It is obvious the phone has issues and is silly when people argue in here that the phone is perfect and there are no issues and those of us with issues are "complainers" when we have no desire to jump through hoops and root/rom a phone that should work out of the box.

You can't argue that the phone is perfect if you're not stock as there would be no reason to root and rom if the phone were perfect.

My replacement is still on its stock ROM, for about a week now. My signature is from my attempt to fix the first GNex I had. So yea, as of right now, I'm on 4.0.2.

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[kalexan9]

Where do all of you GNex elitists come from? You say that you never had a problem with your phone and it's not got any issues, and if that's true, again, good for you. But to use that to talk down to everyone else who does have issues I don't understand. You say that your phone has always been trouble free, but there is no way for me or anyone else to confirm that. How do we know you're not lying or exaggerating just to make a point? You make a claim, and everyone here is just supposed to believe it.You've NEVER had any problems? Right. If you say so. Anyway, why is it necessary to talk down to those who don't want to root? Some of you come across as unemployed 18-25 year olds who have nothing better to do than sit in front of your computer tweaking your phone all day and scouring the forums looking for a scuffle. If I had a phone that didn't drop data at any given moment, didn't reboot just for the hell of it, didn't drain the battery by noon, didn't lag, and didn't drop calls, I sure as hell wouldn't be on this forum looking for a scuffle with people who do have problems. It is a FACT that there are issues with the GNex that are awaiting a fix through the next update. What makes it so frustrating is that, RIGHT or WRONG, people had very high expectations from this phone. Some of those expectations were realized, some were not. And just like everything in life, people have a right to complain - or as some of you call it, "whine and cry". Just like I said before if you don't like the whining and crying, don't click on the thread, don't bring your elitism into the discussion. Go start a "I luv my GNex" thread and I promise you I won't go there to throw crap and rain on the parade. Hell, I even look forward to joining you once my issues are addressed.

 

[macmitten]

What's the point of a warranty if the phone is a piece of crap and they won't fix it. You take matters into your hands!!! Just like cars.

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[SOTK]

Where do all of you GNex elitists come from? You say that you never had a problem with your phone and it's not got any issues, and if that's true, again, good for you. But to use that to talk down to everyone else who does have issues I don't understand. You say that your phone has always been trouble free, but there is no way for me or anyone else to confirm that. How do we know you're not lying or exaggerating just to make a point? You make a claim, and everyone here is just supposed to believe it.You've NEVER had any problems? Right. If you say so. Anyway, why is it necessary to talk down to those who don't want to root? Some of you come across as unemployed 18-25 year olds who have nothing better to do than sit in front of your computer tweaking your phone all day and scouring the forums looking for a scuffle. If I had a phone that didn't drop data at any given moment, didn't reboot just for the hell of it, didn't drain the battery by noon, didn't lag, and didn't drop calls, I sure as hell wouldn't be on this forum looking for a scuffle with people who do have problems. It is a FACT that there are issues with the GNex that are awaiting a fix through the next update. What makes it so frustrating is that, RIGHT or WRONG, people had very high expectations from this phone. Some of those expectations were realized, some were not. And just like everything in life, people have a right to complain - or as some of you call it, "whine and cry". Just like I said before if you don't like the whining and crying, don't click on the thread, don't bring your elitism into the discussion. Go start a "I luv my GNex" thread and I promise you I won't go there to throw crap and rain on the parade. Hell, I even look forward to joining you once my issues are addressed.

You do understand that you just make yourself look bad and cement the fact that you come off as a winer with these types of posts, right? For example, I come to forums to be constructive, to help, and for community. You say you don't have time to waste on unlocking/rom'ing and yet you have time to come here and complain. You accuse us of being deceitful because we say we don't have problems with the phone and yet where's your proof that your phone is so defective? How do we know that you're just not hired by the competition to come here and complain about Samsung and the GNex? See where I or others could go with your type of posts?

Listen, if you spent any time in the rooting sub-forum, you'd see that most of us here are happy and spend time helping others. Were not "elitists". We just get tired of the constant negativity and the seeming inability of some people to better the situation either by selling the phone, getting a working replacement, or unlocking/rom'ing.

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[ShinyTop]

I said this a while ago and it still holds true:

HOWEVER, I also absolutely believe that it is irresponsible for the combination of Google, Samsung, and Verizon to let a phone with the known issues of the Gnex go over 4.5 months without fixes. I don't care to point fingers, I don't care if you can fix with root, etc. The companies involved should have dedicated enough resources to solve this quickly. That would have been responsible. The delay just proves that this industry has released so many defective products that it and we no longer believe they should wait until a product is ready.

 

[Saiga]

I really wanted to love this phone. I waited in line on launch day to buy a Galaxy Nexus off contract and I personally convinced two of my friends to get one also. Besides those two nexus owners. I know 3 other people with this phone. Out of the 5 Nexus owners I know every one of them hate this phone.

Everyone I know personally with this device has dealt with it becoming Increasingly laggy, ridiculously short battery life, data that simply refuses to stay connected, daily reboots for no reason, the screen becomes uncomfortably hot if you use it for longer than 30 minutes and switching screen orientation takes a comically long time. All of them act the same exact way. I personally do not believe that any stock Gnex works correctly. I would love to be proven wrong about that.

Never been more excited about a phone in my entire life and now that I have owned it since launch, I can honestly say it is the worst smartphone I have ever owned. Jesus the Storm could at least use a data connection and you could type on it without the thing rebooting mid conversation.

The stock Gnex sucks, Don't care what the apologists have to say. I need a phone not a past time and as a phone the Gnex is a horrible choice.

 

[ShinyTop]

I do not doubt your experience, but there are those who have had no issues. I have two with no issues other than the low volume. I know others who own these with no issues. We are all in a good 4g area so maybe it has something to do with the local hardware/towers. I have also traveled and had no issues with 4G in other locations. I don't blame those who cuss these phone due to their bad experiences but make no mistake about it, many of us have have no serious issue. But if I did or could not use it as a phone I would have exchanged it long ago. Have had one since release day. I have one stock and one rooted that I experiment with. Have not seen that the roms do that much for it but then had no issues to begin with.

 

[kalexan9]

You do understand that you just make yourself look bad and cement the fact that you come off as a winer with these types of posts, right? For example, I come to forums to be constructive, to help, and for community. You say you don't have time to waste on unlocking/rom'ing and yet you have time to come here and complain. You accuse us of being deceitful because we say we don't have problems with the phone and yet where's your proof that your phone is so defective? How do we know that you're just not hired by the competition to come here and complain about Samsung and the GNex? See where I or others could go with your type of posts?

Listen, if you spent any time in the rooting sub-forum, you'd see that most of us here are happy and spend time helping others. Were not "elitists". We just get tired of the constant negativity and the seeming inability of some people to better the situation either by selling the phone, getting a working replacement, or unlocking/rom'ing.

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I'm making MYSELF look bad? Why do you keep looking in this thread and responding here? I thought you started a "happy" thread? I still don't know the point you're trying to make by posting here. Did I call you out by name? Did I hurt your feelings in some way? How have you helped anyone here in this thread? You seem more childish than helpful.

 

[habanophile]

I think we all need to keep in mind that complaints about this phone are more the exception than the rule.

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[Johnly]

So is this Verizon's fault or Samsung? Samsung made the phone and Verizon expects their OEMs to make good hardware. If you haven't tried to get a working phone then whose fault is it? The other major point is everyone that buys a release device and expects it to be perfect out of the box. Even with extensive testing of hardware/software there are still bugs that don't come out until there are 1000's of users. You can't have it both ways - bleeding edge hardware/software and top notch reliability (look at all the **** Apple users put up with - you're holding it wrong and now we'll give you a free bumper to cover up a major engineering flaw - look at the Verizon iPhone to see how they fixed it). There's a pretty easy fix to this - wait at least three months after release (Thunderbolt anyone?) before buying a new phone. Patience is a virtue.

It is important that these experiences are shared. It is good for the community, maybe not so much for the phone. It is Google's fault. Why they allowed a lower end device hardware wise flagship its OS is beyond me.

It is NOT the consumers fault! I am not QC for any company unless I apply to be and get paid to do so.

This argument is always made, "you can't have it all." That is right, and I am willing to tolerate OS bugs, but when a phone can't be a phone (I would never put family I love in a Nexus, they need reliability, battery life, etc.) I am fine with bugs to a degree. That is the problem, what degree are you willing to tolerate. Battery life, connectivity, and solid phone calls are always expected, and most devices can do that. That is why I would never recommend this device.

It isn't about being right, it is about when enough is enough. for me it was two devices in 14 days. I am impressed people have given it 6+ months. The only virtue in patience is when it is a good thing.

Is the iPhone flawless? Nope. It sure is close. Before I jailbroke mine, I had two bugs. One, the contacts would loose names and I would have to reboot the phone at my leisure. Two, once every few weeks a web page would crash. It would just load right back up where I left off. A huge 3 second inconvenience. Phone calls, connectivity, and battery life have NEVER been a problem.

I miss Android OS. I love it, more so that iOS. I miss the customization. I will get another android device, but I am going to drive this 4S in the dirt first because it gets the job done well. Since I jailbroke it, I have more bugs! Go figure, lol, and I do not mind them because they DO NOT affect the phone/connectivity. Both sides of the argument must be present for our community to knowledgeable.

 

[blazin247]

These debates always turn ugly. Fact: some of us are having issues with our phone and we're pissed. Fact: some of us aren't having issues with our phone and we love it. Nothing either side says is going to sway the other side in their favor. Nobody has any idea how prevalent these issues are. Nobody knows if 4.04 is going to fix these issues. So please, everyone, stop speaking as if your opinion is the gospel. It's not, I assure you.

 

[Channan]

I really don't understand these threads. If you don't like your phone and feel its a lemon, work with Verizon. Be persistent. Verizon has offered me a different phone countless times throughout my time with them when I've had bad history with a phone.

I really wish the RAZR MAXX had a better screen. Actually I just wish Verizon got the One X. I'd so trade my Galaxy Nexus for either.

 

[anon(596177)]

Wow so much hate.

Ultimately if you are having problems with your phone and you dont get rid of it, and you dont want to root/ROM to try to fix it, or maybe you cant root/ROM to fix it, then you are in it under Verizon's mercy and that is something that you are going to just have to deal with because there is no getting by that. Google has an update, they have tested the update. Verizon has taken its sweet time with QoS. With the leaked 4.0.4 and now the small batch release of the OTA, there's absolutely no denying that.

The good thing for those of you that are holding out for the OTA is since there was a small release to a few lucky people already theres a decent chance of the OTA coming out to everyone soon (yeah i know, grain of salt blah blah blah). Could fix your issues, may not. The question is how are you going to feel if your issues dont get fixed?


And for the record: I unlocked my bootloader in Feb to install the leaked 4.0.4 update. I did this because of the keyboard lag, reboots, the "Android OS" high percentage bug, the multitouch problem, and the slow radio handoff, All of these issues were fixed.

I rooted and ROMed my phone less that a week ago, but not to fix any issues, but out of sheer curiosity and the customization ability. Then of course I work in IT, so I am more comfortable working with stuff like that than some people would be. I will tell you now that rooting and ROMing did NOT fix the screech issue while on the phone, an issue that I have only experienced while talking to someone with another verizon handset (and one that, other than being mildly annoying, hasnt bothered me). So while rooting and ROMing may be seem like the perfect fix, there are cases where it may not be either.