A word of warning about 100% brightness

Oh and one more thing: I don't know that I would put much faith in that article above. This quote:

"Further they are environment friendly as there is no problem like burn-in as in the case of plasma screens."

Doesn't even make sense. What does burn in have to do with being environment friendly? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what the author is saying. One thing to note though is that article states the lifespan(more commonly known as half life) is quite low. If true, it would explain a lot.
 
wow i just registered just to reply to this, because i have not heard of this before. but sure enough, i just checked my screen and i have the notification bar burn in on my screen! WTF.

my phone is only 1 month old, and i have kept it on auto brightness the ENTRIE TIME. this doesnt seem very good.
 
wow i just registered just to reply to this, because i have not heard of this before. but sure enough, i just checked my screen and i have the notification bar burn in on my screen! WTF.

my phone is only 1 month old, and i have kept it on auto brightness the ENTRIE TIME. this doesnt seem very good.

Yeah, I've been checking other my friends devices and they have it as well. Not good.
 
yeah I plan on just doing a lot more landscape usage so that it gives the already faded pixels some time to average out with the rest of the screen. might help at least correct it somewhat.
 
I have the same problem as the OP, but i never used my screen at full brightness. I have the phone since March and it has always been on auto brightness (which usually makes the brightness to stay between 30% and 50%).
I didn't notice the "burn in" since the brightness levels were never that high. Once i pumped up the brightness it was there.
 
I've have a T-Mobile N1 since launch, and do not have these issues.

I only run at 100% brightness.

With Cubed (music player, black background) running in full screen, I notice no white burn-in.
 
After reading this and checking my screen, I definitely see burn in. Used at 100% brightness since purchase in January. Was going to buy a Nexus for my wife because she's been jealous since I got mine, but may hold off now.
 
As I stated earlier......its a pity.


This is what happens when they use cheapy cheap AMOLED.

The Incredible will have the same issue soon =/
 
i was pissed at first, but i'm trying to now alternate the screen view more often so the notification bar is not always in the same spot on the screen. maybe its placebo effect, but i swear after a week it seems that my burn in is going away slightly. i wish there were some legit way to have the other pixels usage increase so that it all averages out and looks back to normal.

maybe using the free app dead pixel detect, leaving the white screen on max, and letting it sit for a few hours? or maybe using the free app JscreenFix and letting that run for a few hours?

either way i'm over it mostly and i figure i will have long sold the nexus one by the time this REALLY becomes a visible issue.

or my other theory is that this only happens in the first month when the screen breaks in, and if we were more mindful it could have been avoided.
 
Any Luck

Any luck clearing up the burn-in with any kind of flashlight, strobe, dead pixel, etc... app? I'm having the same problem on my Nexus One.
 
Any luck clearing up the burn-in with any kind of flashlight, strobe, dead pixel, etc... app? I'm having the same problem on my Nexus One.

no there is no fix. this is permanent. those pixels have deteriorated at a faster rate than the other pixels on your screen. you CAN send the phone to HTC for a fix/replacement, but people have reported that the replacement also has this problem after a month of use.

the ONLY way to avoid this is root your phone and install a black notification bar, this way your pixels are turned off and blend in with your black background.

how ironic, to get your phone fixed under warranty you cannot root it. but the only way to avoid this issue and use a black color, is to root it. oh the irony.
 
GenericMessage you claim to work on the "OLED dev team" of the company that makes and sells all the screens used in these devices (which is Samsung FYI for those keeping track at home) but your twitter is all English and you obviously live in the US so I'm calling shenanigans.

What kind of degree do you have?
 
GenericMessage you claim to work on the "OLED dev team" of the company that makes and sells all the screens used in these devices (which is Samsung FYI for those keeping track at home) but your twitter is all English and you obviously live in the US so I'm calling shenanigans.

What kind of degree do you have?

that seems pretty short sighted. nokia is based in finland, a non-english speaking country, and every forum post, youtube video, that nokia employees put out is all in perfect english. i would bet 1000 dollars that there are TONS of english speaking samsung employees.
 
It's true that it's ignorant to say someone in another country can't speak English, but that's beside the point.

I'm not claiming to be an "expert" on OLED technology but I'm a geek and I spend a lot of time researching and following the latest technologies. Lately I've been eagerly anticipating OLED devices so I do happen to know more than the average person who might just say that "they have really good contrast".

With that in mind, it's my opinion that anyone claiming that OLED was supposed to be a perfect technology without significant burn-in potential is ill-informed. On the contrary, OLED has had keeping a predictable and consistently-toned lifespan as its first and greatest obstacle.

For example, it was only just recently that OLED displays became at all viable, because for various reasons it's difficult to make a good, long-lasting blue OLED light. One part of the problem is this: Did you know your eyes generally only perceive blue a tiny fraction as well as they can see red and especially green? (hence the reason red, yellow, and green are used almost exclusively on anything important - traffic lights, warning signs, etc)

OLED's greatest strength - the fact that "black" pixels are truly black, is also its greatest weakness. Those pixels are inactive and, as PR people will tell you, this means they aren't consuming much if any battery power. But each pixel - in fact, each subpixel you should remember - has its own lifespan. If those black ones aren't on, then when they do turn on they're going to be a little brighter than the others since they aren't as worn.

When a pixel's at 50% illumination let's say, maybe it's not aging very quickly, but it's still aging. However, when you have something static on the screen at all times, like a status bar, each subpixel that the pattern is composed of will age at a predictable rate, inevitably leaving a visible "ghost" on everything ever displayed on the screen in the future. If you even leave something static on it for just 5 minutes there will be a "ghost" but it will be so inconsequential it will never be visible to the naked eye.

This is completely unavoidable regardless of the display technology since there's always a light-producing element that gradually becomes less and less effective - plasmas still do it relatively bad, LCDs do it, CRTs do it, etc. LCDs mainly just lose their backlight but they do have a kind of burn-in, my HDTV downstairs has several discernable letterboxes burnt into it.

It remains to be seen whether OLED will be better or worse in the very long term, but it's never going to be totally perfect. Unfortunately... very unfortunately. Otherwise, OLED is a tremendous advancement over previous display technologies in every important way.

However, there IS a perfectly simple fix in this case, but it's not quick. Get an image of the pattern that caused the problem, invert it, and put it in the place of the original pattern until you notice the problem has evened out. Then it's just a matter of wear-leveling - have software keep track of how long a given static image has been actively on the screen, and at a certain interval, replace it with the inverted version. This is what they do at many airports and other places with information displays on flat panels.

What you need to do is convince a developer to make a theme that just has the status bar inverted. I haven't bought an Android phone yet (planning to very soon), or I'd do it. I'm right on the verge of deciding whether or not to buy a Nexus One today, so who knows, maybe I'll actually be the one to do it.

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edit: Back to the start of the post, I can say with confidence that nobody who knows anything about OLED - be it OLED in general, AMOLED, PMOLED, or whatever other flavor - would claim that it was/is expected to be a technology without this weakness. It's true that in the future things like firmware-based wear-compensation for example or just better manufacturing techniques might reduce the severity of the problem, as has happened with plasma displays. But it's nothing short of either being A) grossly misinformed, B) willfully ignorant, or C) entirely just full of **** to claim that this sort of problem is a sign of anything besides an inherent weakness in the technology.

It was most definitely known about when the Nexus One was designed by everyone in charge of making the decision of what display to use, and it was known about by the manufacturers of said display. It wasn't a bad move necessarily either, from any standpoint - they chose to use the best display technology available to them at the time, and since it was right on the bleeding edge, it is imperfect. It's a problem that unfortunately can only be borne by the early-adopters, just as it was with plasma displays. You buy a car, and by the time you're off the lot there's a newer model that doesn't have that "no brakes" problem. Still, it's a nice car and you should enjoy it.
 
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Let's hope you're right, cause I've been using an inverted status bar and it does kinda seem to get better. Not by much though. It definitely isn't getting worse though.
 
that seems pretty short sighted. nokia is based in finland, a non-english speaking country, and every forum post, youtube video, that nokia employees put out is all in perfect english. i would bet 1000 dollars that there are TONS of english speaking samsung employees.

I never said people from other countries can speak English moron, but someone's personal Twitter isn't going to be in English (most likely) if they are from another country. Not only that, but you'll notice I said he's obviously from the US given that his profile says he lives in Michigan.
 

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