android 4.3 bugs with nexus 4

I was accused in another thread of trolling because I keep pointing out that a wipe-before-OTA is a best-practices approach, and that I lack sympathy for those who refuse to heed advice or, frankly, actually use common freaking sense.

Well, I'm sorry that it offends people, but in my view those are the same people who shouldn't have this technology in the first place because they're too willfully ignorant for their own good. And I'm sorry if coming right out and saying it like that sticks in anyone's craw, but enough is enough. Wipe your phone and then do an OTA if you want reasonable assurance of a successful update, and take your chances on a dirty OTA if that's how you roll. Either way, it doesn't keep me up at night worrying. What it does do is make coming here and participating on this message board a more irritating experience than it really needs to be.
 
I'm having quite a few issues/gripes:

- I'm noticing some lag (more than 4.2.2).
- Noticeable stuttering/lag when opening Google Now. Was never there in 4.2.2.
- Widgets aren't working properly for me. I'm using Power Toggles (or something) and the buttons would stay lit/unlit the whole time. E.g. I press the Wi-Fi button but it would still stay unlit although Wi-Fi is turning on. The same thing happens with the Google Play Music widget. The functions work properly but they don't display what their supposed to display.
- I've also had two random reboots when I was opening apps...
- Video recording won't stop after I take a photo from the video (tapping the screen while video recording). I have to press the back button for it to stop.
- I think the issue with focusing while on HDR mode is still there but it's more responsive than when it was in 4.2.2.

Other than that I think I'm noticing better battery life and I'm liking the new camera UI. I just hope Google addresses these issues quickly. :p

Question, did you do a factory reset yet?
 
I was accused in another thread of trolling because I keep pointing out that a wipe-before-OTA is a best-practices approach, and that I lack sympathy for those who refuse to heed advice or, frankly, actually use common freaking sense.

Well, I'm sorry that it offends people, but in my view those are the same people who shouldn't have this technology in the first place because they're too willfully ignorant for their own good. And I'm sorry if coming right out and saying it like that sticks in anyone's craw, but enough is enough. Wipe your phone and then do an OTA if you want reasonable assurance of a successful update, and take your chances on a dirty OTA if that's how you roll. Either way, it doesn't keep me up at night worrying. What it does do is make coming here and participating on this message board a more irritating experience than it really needs to be.

I have posted on numerous threads about the advice that Google is giving of doing a Factory Reset if you run into problems after running the update. Yet I see thread after thread, of people complaining that this doesn't work, and that has a bug, and it doesn't do this right.. etc. etc. etc.. Can't these people read??????


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I'm having quite a few issues/gripes:

- I'm noticing some lag (more than 4.2.2).
- Noticeable stuttering/lag when opening Google Now. Was never there in 4.2.2.
- Widgets aren't working properly for me. I'm using Power Toggles (or something) and the buttons would stay lit/unlit the whole time. E.g. I press the Wi-Fi button but it would still stay unlit although Wi-Fi is turning on. The same thing happens with the Google Play Music widget. The functions work properly but they don't display what their supposed to display.
- I've also had two random reboots when I was opening apps...
- Video recording won't stop after I take a photo from the video (tapping the screen while video recording). I have to press the back button for it to stop.
- I think the issue with focusing while on HDR mode is still there but it's more responsive than when it was in 4.2.2.

Other than that I think I'm noticing better battery life and I'm liking the new camera UI. I just hope Google addresses these issues quickly. :p

Are you using a different launcher other than stock. Many of the 3rd party launchers need to be updated by the respective developers for compatibility with 4.3.

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Are you using a different launcher other than stock. Many of the 3rd party launchers need to be updated by the respective developers for compatibility with 4.3.

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Yeah I am. Thanks for the reply! Forgot about the compatibility issues. :)

Question, did you do a factory reset yet?

Yes, I have. The thing is, I've never encountered bugs (or noticeable bugs) like these which is why I'm baffled about what's appearing after the update. I'll be sure to factory reset before OTA next time. Thanks for the help guys!
 
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I was accused in another thread of trolling because I keep pointing out that a wipe-before-OTA is a best-practices approach, and that I lack sympathy for those who refuse to heed advice or, frankly, actually use common freaking sense.

Well, I'm sorry that it offends people, but in my view those are the same people who shouldn't have this technology in the first place because they're too willfully ignorant for their own good. And I'm sorry if coming right out and saying it like that sticks in anyone's craw, but enough is enough. Wipe your phone and then do an OTA if you want reasonable assurance of a successful update, and take your chances on a dirty OTA if that's how you roll. Either way, it doesn't keep me up at night worrying. What it does do is make coming here and participating on this message board a more irritating experience than it really needs to be.

Who says it's best practice? It's _your preference_. Point me to the page where google recommends your "best practice". Yeah, that's what I thought...
 
Who says it's best practice? It's _your preference_. Point me to the page where google recommends your "best practice". Yeah, that's what I thought...
There is a subset of angry nerds who believe that everyone is too stupid to be allowed to have technology unless they do things the way they decree they be done. They also believe that if <1% of people have a problem with an OTA update, then it means that 100% of people should erase their phones because. They willfully ignore that the exceptions are just that, exceptions. They're no different from the lunatics who believe that because one man claimed his wife got brain cancer from her cell phones that cell phones cause brain cancer, period. Nevermind that there are literally BILLIONS of people who have been using cell phones for over a decade and no epidemics of brain cancer have appeared. Someone said they got brain cancer, so it's "best practices" for everyone to get a Bluetooth or keep their cell phone in a lead box since brain cancer.

I had a run-in the other night with a guy who does a show on the web radio station that I do. His show is about IT and mine is a general nerd culture (i.e. movies, videogames, comics, TV) thing and I got a frantic call from my g/f when our show was airing (we'd pre-taped this episode) that she couldn't get the stream. There'd been some changes in the servers and the webmaster overlooked updating all the links. While frantically trying to figure out WTF was happening on the private staff chat channel, Mr. IT Guy was being an obnoxious d-bag, ignoring what I was saying and burping, "It looks OK for me, so I don't know what you're doing wrong." Typical "helpful" nerd arrogance.

I ended up deducing that AdBlock Plus was preventing the iframe with the TuneIn logo link from displaying. He then launched into a rage fit in which he said, verbatim, "You don't build websites for "everyone", you build them for "most people, in a vanilla configuration". So yes, when I look at this and test in the latest versions of IE, Firefox, Chrome and Safari...and it works just fine...but it doesn't work for YOU, then the problem is on your system, not with the site. In my day to day world, if you're running software on your machine that prohibits you from utilizing my site properly, then it's incumbent upon you to deactivate that software, plugin, add on, or whatever the heck else it is, not on me to "fix" my site for you.

AdBlock Plus shows 15 MILLION installs on the Firefox extensions page. That's a whole lot of people you're telling to get with YOUR program. Adblockers are widely used, so if you don't consider the ramifications of how your site displays to someone using them, you're making the choice to silently tell them you don't want their patronage. The competition is just a click away, pal.

What the arrogant, nerd rage, l337 h4X0rZ who are attempting to justify their rude, sneering behavior can't comprehend is that they aren't helping anyone buy being pompous jerks to people with questions and problems. Their error isn't in saying that perhaps a factory reset may be needed to sort out whatever glitches are occurring, but in their angry denunciations of those who didn't do it the l337 h4X0r way of wiping everything before updating don't deserve assistance because.

If 99 out of 100 users can update via the OTA without wiping and it works fine, what is the justification for demanding those 99 erase their phones or GTFO because User #100 has a hiccup? A: There isn't. It's just snotty nerd arrogance and it doesn't help anyone. It just allows them to stroke themselves in public.

BTW, the Google Play versions of the HTC One and Galaxy S4 are getting their OTAs for 4.3 now. None of the stories about this have commanded that users erase their phones because angry nerds command it. Also:

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Hmmm, no warnings about what the angry nerds say to do. Funny how that works.
 
My grandpa always told me a fool that runs his mouth the most is the one that says the least. Clearly he was right. Lol.

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Uh huh. Still waiting for the link to that page with the google recommendation... Until then we're all just people with opinions and you know what they say about those...
 
Uh huh. Still waiting for the link to that page with the google recommendation... Until then we're all just people with opinions and you know what they say about those...

I know what page he refers to and would post the link, but I won't because it is a Facebook page. The same page that advised users to clear the Google services framework so they could get the update immediately. I do not believe this is an official Google Nexus 4 page. The bottom line is, if you have issues that are not app related and that can't be resolved, doing a factory reset will usually resolve them. Generally, if unrooted, you take the OTA and reset if unresolvable issues occur. Although there is nothing wrong with playing it safe and flashing the factory image. When rooted, the general rule is to wipe data. Although, if running rooted stock, you can chance it and dirty flash. My preference is to factory reset, full wipe if on a custom rom. And yes we all have our own opinions, by don't whine and cry when yours doesn't work out for you. When things don't work out for me as expected, that is when I have a tendency to listen more closely to others.

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I know what page he refers to and would post the link, but I won't because it is a Facebook page. The same page that advised users to clear the Google services framework so they could get the update immediately. I do not believe this is an official Google Nexus 4 page.
Someone's PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE expresses a sentiment that angry arrogant l337 h4x0rZ nerd-ragers agree with and that suddenly equates to "best practices"?!?!? I'll just leave this here:
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If it's any consolation, I'm getting the sleep of death no my N7 since upgrading to 4.3, so I don't think it's so much a device issue, as it is a software one.
 
I got the update last week and when I delete my texts it always tries to delete them, but they are still on my phone with the date "December 31, 1969" or something like that. Only when I press the back button or quit messaging do the texts really disappear.
 
I am having a weird issue since the last update, the bottom buttons ( The 3 touch keys ) are disappearing. Obviously, you can't click them and you're hopeless..
When I reboot the device they're coming back. But nothing else fixes that.
I wonder if someone else has encountered this. Cause a friend of mine also got this bug, so I'm wondering if it's something that we did...

Thanks!
 
The only way to get proper help is to disclose what apps you have installed. There are too many apps that have issues with 4.3 due to security changes. Most of the bugs and glitches being reported are due to incompatible apps that need to be updated by respective developers.

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I was accused in another thread of trolling because I keep pointing out that a wipe-before-OTA is a best-practices approach, and that I lack sympathy for those who refuse to heed advice or, frankly, actually use common freaking sense.

Don't let people get to you. They just happen to be passionate about the Nexus 4, as we all are.

Speaking of best practices, I normally recommend that people read the Nexus 4 Guidebook. It's available in the Google Play store (here at this link).

If Google recommends a factory reset before performing a system update, it should be somewhere in the guidebook. So far I can't find the relevant passage, but maybe you'll have better luck. Once you find it, just tell people to go a specific page number. People can't argue with you if Google puts it out there in writing.
 
I've not noticed any benefits of the update as I was perfectly happy with the way the device runs. I have however had a few battery quirks. The other morning I took it off charge and went to work and noticed it still said "Charging" on both the lock screen and the battery monitor. Rebooted it, no change. Plugged it back in to charge and took it off and everything was ok.

And this morning I took my phone off charge having been on all night and it had only gone up to 36%. Rebooted it, put it back on charge and all seems ok now.

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Since the update my N4 will shut down all by itself, which is annoying. Its happened twice already today. So for me the main bug in 4.3 is random shut downs....
 

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