Android VS iOS

[A895]

This has been a device specific case for me as well. My phone required very little modification to get working right after 5.x, but my tablet... that's been another story. I'm still fighting massive battery drain from Play Services when WiFi is enabled. The thing that bugs me is that you never can really know whether the manufacturer got everything you wish for right until you're past the store exchange/return window and into manufacturer warranty.

Google Services still needs to be made better for the wide range of hardware of Android can run on. Not to mention how some apps can just use your phone CPU and run in the background and you not even know. Android Ms new Doze mode should fix that hopefully.

Posted via Razr M on the Android Central App

 

[anon8380037]

Anyone think there is

Too..... Much.... Information.....

to keep up with on Android.


My little brain hurts.


I may be becoming a closet iSheep after reading a lot of these posts, and I have never actually used one for myself.

The Android Central blogs, Google changes and Lollipop hiccups never stop.
When is it going to be FINISHED? (LOL)



Interesting thread btw.

 

[berdinkerdickle]

Anyone think there is

Too..... Much.... Information.....

to keep up with on Android.


My little brain hurts.


I may be becoming a closet iSheep after reading a lot of these posts, and I have never actually used one for myself.

The Android Central blogs, Google changes and Lollipop hiccups never stop.
When is it going to be FINISHED? (LOL)



Interesting thread btw.

I'm starting to think that way also. What's that acronym : KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid

 

[UJ95x]

Google Services still needs to be made better for the wide range of hardware of Android can run on. Not to mention how some apps can just use your phone CPU and run in the background and you not even know. Android Ms new Doze mode should fix that hopefully.

Posted via Razr M on the Android Central App

Doze mode only seems to work when your phone is completely still. For example, on your night stand overnight. Throughout the day it will still be draining normally unless you keep it on a desk for extended periods of time

 

[A895]

Doze mode only seems to work when your phone is completely still. For example, on your night stand overnight. Throughout the day it will still be draining normally unless you keep it on a desk for extended periods of time

So essentially doze mode is only useful to people who don't charge their phone overnight? Wow, that does not seem all that useful then. Hmmm.

 

[Aquila]

So essentially doze mode is only useful to people who don't charge their phone overnight? Wow, that does not seem all that useful then. Hmmm.

It's MUCH more geared for tablets, that may be used for just a few hours per day and completely idle the rest of the day.

 

[syspry]

It's MUCH more geared for tablets, that may be used for just a few hours per day and completely idle the rest of the day.

I hope so because from what I've been digging into over at XDA, 5.1.1 still hasn't resolved battery drain issues and wakelocks with Lollipop on Wifi which is all my tablet uses.

 

[Aquila]

I hope so because from what I've been digging into over at XDA, 5.1.1 still hasn't resolved battery drain issues and wakelocks with Lollipop on Wifi which is all my tablet uses.

M has very similar battery life on my N6 to 5.1, no epic drain but still nothing like my tablets get in sleep.

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[UJ95x]

So essentially doze mode is only useful to people who don't charge their phone overnight? Wow, that does not seem all that useful then. Hmmm.

Pretty much. Or you can charge up before bed and have 99% battery when you wake up. Not a big deal for me though, since I already wake up with 97. Wish it would kick in without use, regardless of whether or not you're moving with the phone

 

[syspry]

M has very similar battery life on my N6 to 5.1, no epic drain but still nothing like my tablets get in sleep.

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main issue I'm having with 5.1.1 on wifi with tablet is Play Services using an unusually high (15% battery and upwards) if left overnight with wifi on compared to my phone left overnight with data on instead of wifi, which stays at a more normalized 3-5% from Play Services, and it's still on 5.02.
However my phone's power saving feature stops background activity when the screen is off but tablet doesn't have that option. Xperia phone, N7 tablet

 

[A895]

It's MUCH more geared for tablets, that may be used for just a few hours per day and completely idle the rest of the day.

Well, that makes more sense.

 

[A895]

I have to hand it to iOS, whatever you think of Apple, they really found a way to make standby times on Apple devices a lot better than Android devices.

The sane can also be said for Windows Phone, my phone was on 38% when I went to bad last night at before 11pm and now when I wake up it is at 37%.

 

[razza1987]

Yesterday I posted in this thread that I have a gut feeling that Apple's going to come out swinging this year with an iPhone 7 that's going to kick Android right in the nards. Tonight I ran across this at Macworld. If even only 60% of it pans out to be true, I'm going to go on record now to say it's going to be a better smartphone than the S6, G4, and Z3+ regardless of OS preferences. The tech Apple is putting into this year's gen looks insanely ahead of anything the Android OEM's are putting out, and it looks like Apple is getting set to offer a rebuttal to the advantages Google Now currently offers over Siri (which anyone could have predicted was bound to happen soon).
The only thing I can see killing this is if Apple totally fumbles the ball and the iP7 somehow manages to bypass their QC with serious flaws. I doubt that's going to happen. Despite attempt to deride the iPhone 6+ with Bendgate articles etc, I'm not uncomfortable saying the 2014 6+ is a better overall smartphone than the 2015 S6 right now. It runs better, has better battery life, far fewer issues.

The bendgate thing was a whole lot of nothing. It almost turned me off getting the six plus but I did and have had zero issues

 

[StandardGames]

I've used both Androids and iPhones and all it comes down to for me is not the hardware (which is interchangeably better or worse at either system), but the UI and software infrastructure including the configs, sys apps, stores and such. In that regard I've seen both, embarrassing Androids and iPhones. I'm not much affected by the battery life pain since I work with these devices professionally and usually have a plug around me.

What I find hilarious about iPhones is that their UI is actually pretty bad for all the boasting attitudes you can find in their bloated product philosophy. You simply do not remove essential physical buttons without paying the bills by having to force new space for virtual buttons. It's ridiculous and self-limiting, it doesn't even make sense from a visual perspective imagining and glorifying a single-button phone. And then they move the virtual buttons to the display top, while the only physical button is still on the device's bottom. The distances between these UI elements is really stupid as it doesn't grant any advantages, you just find your thumb constantly covering and jumping over the display. Not really an elegant solution for Thy Majesty's Apple product. ^^ Some responsible overrated designer must've been pretty close-headed here. Their native keyboard with auto-correct is also a pain in the [language removed by mod] and some gestures are everything but natural. In the end it's all learning-by-doing, but the logic behind the great "Apple UIs" isn't as striking as promised. Pretending to be ahead of every user's need and then not getting it right is one of the fundamental issues I have with Apple.

In return the greater display pays off at reading and gaming and the hardware has never been a downer so far for me. This isn't surprising since iOS wasn't really developed for slow devices and not based on a resource saving principle of hardware efficiency. On the other hand, there seems to be no lower limit of hardware specs Android phones can not undermatch. To be fair, these times are hopefully over now. Since I use Google cloud services frequently, Android works much better for me regarding the native apps and their support. Apple has also great, polished apps but simply doesn't have as much coverage for my stationary and portable computer devices, but that might be due to circumstance that I'm a Windows user and not a Mac one. I'd say though that Android suffers more from crappy, pre-installed system apps. I really hated Gingerbread for not being able to remove them on my already [language removed by mod] devices.

 

[gjerek]

I am long time apple hater, tho probably just because I have few hardcore apple fans, and it's kinda fun to bug them

But I have to admit iPhone/iPad are damn awesome

 

[ahdeveloper]

Android is easy to use.good performance vs iphone have small screen too much security

 

[enigmax]

Here's another thing.
Does Apple have as many returned devices as others?
You read of so many Android users going back for a 3rd or more replacement.
The carriers don't want to deal with that crap.

absolutely. if you live in a place having apple store, those people go back and worth replacing their stuff for what ever reason. you bought a silver one, but then you want to have golden and finally you end up having spacegray that have a tiny scratch on the middle of the apple logo, and the device goes back.. it is absolutely horrible to read how maniac some are. they light be no real reason but some are replacing their devices several times. unfortunately it isnt for free, you pay that premium price to get to jump in and out in a store. and unfortunately others have to pay that price.

^ Not really, if you jailbreak your iDevice you'll be able to customize it to work the way you want, too. Yeah, you'd have to do it...

"have to do" is not a problem but the problem is that you never know if there is a jailbreak or not and then, will your apps work with it or not.

Does iOS have multi-window ability?
That's one feature I use a lot on my Note.

ios9 brings the splitview for ios, but it probably works only with air2 that has 2gb ram.

If we could somehow motivate Samsung and Google to really make the effort and optimize their software & hardware to act as efficiently as Apple iPhones, imagine just how fantastic the Android eco-system would be...because then we would have the best of both worlds - a fantastic and flexible OS while being lag-free, smooth, and highly energy efficient.

not sure about the optimization and battery efficiency with ios. ios has always done things much simple. there are no real multitasking, background processes (multitasking) are not held alive. with the latest ipad air2 they changed the whole screen technology to save the battery. otherwise the screen would have eaten the battery at once. the screen is on a standby mode constantly and it caused that there are no styluses (fine point) that will work with the new screen without issues - there are skipping and curvy lines. you can see this new technology easily when lightly touching the screen by your finger tip and start scrolling. the screen doesnt always respond back. you can easily draw few centimeters before the screen recognize your touch. but the new tech was needed for saving the battery.

and even now with 2gig ram, there are still lots of jetsam events and bug type 198 and apps are still reloading.. if and when ios gets a real multitasking and widgets we see how well it is optimized. right now ios is way too simple to praise over android, imho.


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[mj0]

What has always bothered me about Android is the inevitable necessity for micromanagement in order to reach a somewhat reasonable and acceptable level of battery life. Turning Bluetooth on and off as necessary. Deciding what cellular speed is necessary - 2G, 3G, or 4G? Disabling and enabling GPS based on whether or not one is using location services. Disabling WiFi when out and about and re-enabling it when entering a wifi enabled zone, such as ones home or office. Closing background apps manually to avoid stutter, memory management issues, and background battery drain. Etc. pp. With iOS you simply don't have to even as much as think about this. You simply leave everything enabled and don't mess around with WiFi or mobile network connection speed. You simply don't have to fiddle with these things because it doesn't matter. Even with dozens of background services running iOS devices are incredibly energy efficient, especially when sleeping. If I leave my iPhone 5S untouched all day (which does happen regularly on weekends) it won't munch through more than maybe 1-2% battery, with all these abovementioned radios and services enabled, mail delivered via push (Exchange & Gmail), a plethora of background services, such as Skype, LinkedIn, Facebook, Facebook Messenger, automatic App-Store updates, eBay, weather, etc. running, and my MiiBand paired with the iPhone 24/7. In all my years I have seen maybe a dozen or so occasions where a crashed or faulty app practically violated the battery within a few hours, and 9/10 times it was Facebook

Fact is that Android is truly abysmal when it comes to battery life, and even beasts such as the Galaxy S6 or the Note 5 suffer from massive and inexcusable battery drain. This was most obvious with the HTC M8 which was offered with both, Android and Windows Phone 8, and the latter had a considerably better battery life (if I remember correctly it was up to twice as long).

I don't know what exactly causes this behavior, whether it's an inherent problem with the way the operating system works, the way it handles background tasks, or the fact that both Google and OEMs prefer the easy (aka hardware) way out - someone is bound to invent better batteries somehow and somewhen, and when that happens we'll have a great selling point for our next generation smartphone and until then we'll just ignore the obvious - but it simply bothers me big time. Most Android users don't seem to care though, at least the ones I know, and don't even consider the necessity for micromanagement to be a disadvantage per se but rather make it out to be a selling point for Android's philosophy of customizability and tweakability.

 

[Aquila]

With iOS you simply don't have to even as much as think about this. You simply leave everything enabled and don't mess around with WiFi or mobile network connection speed.

This is exactly what I do with my Android devices. I don't have any need to micromanage settings, etc. and I would refuse to do so if the need did exist - I would get a different device. While I see a lot of people who believe they need to do these things, especially on Samsung devices, on stock Android devices (nexus, and this carries over to Moto) it simply isn't necessary. And I would argue that it is more than unnecessary on all devices, that it is actually counterproductive. Micromanaging apps actually hurts battery life on Android and who has time to turn wifi, BT, LTE, etc, on and off? That's a mess.

 

[msm0511]

I read that Apple purposely sabotages your phone with it's iOS updates prior to launching a new phone model. It's slight, but it's significant enough for some to want to get that "faster and better" next upgraded model. What do you think?

Surely you wouldn't believe that nonsense?