Anyone else think this is BS?

cr3amy

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We'd all love a Nexus Two to come out. I just don't see it being true...

The only reason the Nexus One was made was to make phone manufacturers create phones with some decent specs. They weren't out for a profit, they weren't out for sales... they wanted to force progress to keep marching forward.

Well nowadays everybody is out-spec'ing everybody else. What possible reason could they have to release a Nexus Two? Maybe it's just a Google Experience phone from Samsung with current-gen or next-gen hardware...
 
Actually the reason for the Nexus One's creation is Google was trying to change the way phones are sold. They wanted it to be more like how computers are sold - you buy your computer first, then afterwards you decide what service provider you want to use. In their vision people would buy direct from manufacturers/suppliers, not from carriers, which would be great since then we wouldn't be forced to have all the carrier tweaks and additions to Android. Unfortunately they were either ahead of their time and/or did not advertise enough to make the Nexus One a real success.

As for the Nexus Two rumor being false, that is a very real possibility. Until we get something more official we can't know for sure.
 
Actually the reason for the Nexus One's creation is Google was trying to change the way phones are sold. They wanted it to be more like how computers are sold - you buy your computer first, then afterwards you decide what service provider you want to use. In their vision people would buy direct from manufacturers/suppliers, not from carriers, which would be great since then we wouldn't be forced to have all the carrier tweaks and additions to Android. Unfortunately they were either ahead of their time and/or did not advertise enough to make the Nexus One a real success.

As for the Nexus Two rumor being false, that is a very real possibility. Until we get something more official we can't know for sure.
Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself.

Google didn't advertise the actual method well enough. If people knew the distinct advantages of buying from the manufacturer as opposed to the carrier, the Nexus One would have sold a lot better.
 
I think another problem that happened to the N1 is price. Not alot of people are willing to pay over 200 for a phone.
 
I think another problem that happened to the N1 is price. Not alot of people are willing to pay over 200 for a phone.
They obviously enjoy being stuck in contracts and paying over $80 a month.

I'm currently with T-Mobile's EM+ plan and I pay $65 a month for 500 minutes, unlimited text and web. If I want a new phone I'll just sell my current one for about $400 and pay the difference.
 
another reason google and htc created the n1 was because it could be used as a phone for developers. something that had high specs with vanilla android and could be used by developers to help create apps and whatever else to push the android os further up front. i will be somewhat disappointed if it turns out to be a device that is very similar to the galaxy s series because there really isn't any innovative features except for gingerbread (if it does launch with that). i guess time will tell but i am reserving the idea that this will be something amazing.
 
Google usually makes pretty smart moves, I'm sure they have something up their sleeve.
 
Google usually makes pretty smart moves, I'm sure they have something up their sleeve.

Your def right with that. The fact that they have recently said how they are really happy with their choice to get android, I have a feeling that the next phone they release as a google experience device is going to be something amazing. I just don't know if samsung has the same idea
 
While I think customers deserve the right to buy a phone outright and use it on whatever carrier they want, that freedom is shrinking each year because carriers want customers to buy from THEM and use the device on THEIR network and carriers I imagine will slowly eliminate outright prices. Same goes for rooting phones, HTC and Motorola has started locking down their new phones, pretty soon it'll be like mid ranged cars, you buy what you get and you get no support whatever if you change anything.

The N1 is one of those phones you can do whatever you want with, and hopefully the N2 will continue with that but if it's from Samsung then who knows what will happen, I don't want high end device with a cheap plasticy build with yucky TouchWiz.
 
The N1 is one of those phones you can do whatever you want with, and hopefully the N2 will continue with that but if it's from Samsung then who knows what will happen, I don't want high end device with a cheap plasticy build with yucky TouchWiz.

The Nexus One didn't have Sense UI, so hopefully Google will have the same control over software (and hardware) with Samsung as they did with HTC.
 
While I think customers deserve the right to buy a phone outright and use it on whatever carrier they want, that freedom is shrinking each year because carriers want customers to buy from THEM and use the device on THEIR network and carriers I imagine will slowly eliminate outright prices. Same goes for rooting phones, HTC and Motorola has started locking down their new phones, pretty soon it'll be like mid ranged cars, you buy what you get and you get no support whatever if you change anything.

The N1 is one of those phones you can do whatever you want with, and hopefully the N2 will continue with that but if it's from Samsung then who knows what will happen, I don't want high end device with a cheap plasticy build with yucky TouchWiz.
True, but there aren't any phones that can be used on any network, I'm afraid that 'freedom' has diminished long ago. Google is trying to make a change in the cell phone market by offering the best phones on any network, but of course the carriers have to agree. The carriers have no reason to agree because people with Google phones can eat up bandwith with wifi tethering/mobile hotspot for free. That's the main reason why carriers lock their phones because people can easily root then add the features for free.
 
They could make a world phone that could be used on any network. If this phone does actually exist then it is most likely not world phone. My guess would be a gsm. Which isn't what most americans want to hear. The fact remains that america is not larger market than the rest of the.

I would say the first one failed because you had to buy it through google's website. It would have done a lot better if we could have picked it up in the store like we could a pc. And google had no phone number that was made open to the public. They really limited their potential customers by choosing to go that route.

For example, my gmail is giving me problems. I'm really not sure where I can go for help. I don't want feel that way with a phone. I fast real time answers.
 
I'm all for letting other companies do it (Don't get me wrong I love HTC), but I think just releasing a Galaxy S and slapping "Nexus" on it is wrong for many reasons. Many Android users still see the Nexus One as special, despite it's aging hardware. Manufacturers need to treat the brand as such.

On another note I'm surprised Motorola/Verizon, who are almost solely responsible for "mainstreaming" Android with those awesome Lance Henriksen commercials didn't get a "go nuts" from Google.

Of course this is all speculation as of right now....
 
I'm all for letting other companies do it (Don't get me wrong I love HTC), but I think just releasing a Galaxy S and slapping "Nexus" on it is wrong for many reasons. Many Android users still see the Nexus One as special, despite it's aging hardware. Manufacturers need to treat the brand as such.
I own an AT&T N1 and you can call it Susan if that makes you feel good. #Snatch A rose by any other name and all that jazz... Then again, I'm not much for brand loyalty in the first place, so meh. Let the specs speak for themselves, I say.
 
I think another problem that happened to the N1 is price. Not alot of people are willing to pay over 200 for a phone.

but with a new android phone (and sometimes several) coming out every month, it makes more sense to pay an unsubsidized price, sell the phone when you want another, and get another. waiting 2 years for an upgrade is BS. But, a lot of people are willing to upgrade every 2 years and only pay $200 each time... unfortunately, the latter scenario is currently driving the market. for me, I'm enjoying my nexus one contract free on AT&T. I will not buy another subsidized phone again. I love changing my phone long before 2 years occurs. But to each their own...
 
Yes, i do also think its BS :-)

Watch that!

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I mean, wth!

Droid Boy
 
What I'm hoping for out of a Nexus Two would be next gen specs(graphics is a big one for gaming), Google experience (vanilla OS that gets updated directly by Google) but most importantly: no carrier bloatware.
Criticize Apple all you want they have done a pretty good job of getting ATT to bend to them. If Google could get carriers to subsidize and still let them control the user experience on the handset they'll have a winner. Obviously they'll lock down tethering and hotspot access/provisioning, those are concessions we're all accustomed to by now and we all know how to get around as well. The distribution model was flawed since most people won't buy something sight unseen, get handsets into BestBuy and I would think it'll do much better.
I for one am anxiously awaiting a top tier Android handset on ATT and one that would get OS upgrades as dictated by Google. ATT in South Florida has great coverage for me and yes I do use simultaneous voice and data every day a few times a day. Until CDMA gets SVDO I don't see myself ever considering it. I also have a work issued VZW cellphone and have not been impressed with their data speeds, their forte lies in coverage in rural areas, doesn't apply to me.
 

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