Yea, I just dumped it today, I was becoming completely nuts over it.This is not a problem, just the way it works. You shouldn't be seeing any negative side effects from it. Dump the task killer and stop obsessing over it. It's not a blackberry.
Annoying quirks galore after doing OTA update on completely stock 2.1 D Inc. acquired on launch day...
1. Mobile network turning on (no cell service)
2. If put in Airplane mode will only come out of it if phone is rebooted.
3. A general slowdown of the phone doing normal tasks.- not as snappy and smooth as before-ie keyboard popping up or closing, apps opening or closing.
4. Music actually skipping during playback. It only happened a few times but since it never happened with 2.1 I noticed.
5. Force closes on Chomp SMS while changing settings, Multitouch keyboard force closes and will not run at all.
6. MORE bloatware than before that cant be turned off
7. On average 25% less available ram as there is a longer list of apps in the running services section of >Settings > Applications.
8. WORSE battery life than 2.1 with Seidio 1750 battery.
9. Only charges when plugged into USB on laptop regardless of settings.
(unable to mount as drives)
For the most part the apps i have tried since upgrading work but..
I am VERY disappointed and if I cant get a decent task killer (as we all know ATK doesn't do crap now) I might have to root but really dont want to.
I?ve had no issues other than a real disappointment in VZW over the crap/bloatware thing. From my testing, it does affect the battery, especially during the overnight charge. The phone comes off the charger with a bigger drain then it did in 2.1.
My real beef is with the inability to easily remove crapware that I do not want and do not use. I can understand locking the system apps, like "Dialer." I can just see some ding-dong removing that and then coming to the forum complaining they can't make calls! But Peep!!! Please, as far as I know Twitter is not an essential systems application, and frankly, the day it is... I'm out of here!
They can keep VZNav, Friendster and all the other BS apps, or let me get rid of them, there is nothing system essential to any of them!
The real thing that has pissed me off is the Media Manager USB install/prompt. That was totally uncalled for; especially since I can?t get rid of it without root!
That?s my only beef.
I don't think any Android build has had the ability to completely remove any program built into the ROM so this isn't just a Verizon thing.
Peep may not be a core system app but it is heavily integrated into Sense (Friendstream) and removing it would probably cause unpredictable results, and Sens replaces some system elements, which is why it can't be disabled or removed.
Annoying quirks galore after doing OTA update on completely stock 2.1 D Inc. acquired on launch day...
1. Mobile network turning on (no cell service)
2. If put in Airplane mode will only come out of it if phone is rebooted.
3. A general slowdown of the phone doing normal tasks.- not as snappy and smooth as before-ie keyboard popping up or closing, apps opening or closing.
4. Music actually skipping during playback. It only happened a few times but since it never happened with 2.1 I noticed.
5. Force closes on Chomp SMS while changing settings, Multitouch keyboard force closes and will not run at all.
6. MORE bloatware than before that cant be turned off
7. On average 25% less available ram as there is a longer list of apps in the running services section of >Settings > Applications.
8. WORSE battery life than 2.1 with Seidio 1750 battery.
9. Only charges when plugged into USB on laptop regardless of settings.
(unable to mount as drives)
For the most part the apps i have tried since upgrading work but..
This is total BS and needs to be fixed.
I am VERY disappointed and if I cant get a decent task killer (as we all know ATK doesn't do crap now) I might have to root but really dont want to.
OK so Peep and Friendstreem are linked, but they are still not essential system apps. Remove them both together! ROM chef's remove them all the time in Sense ROMS with no problems. Qazme did it an hour after getting his hands on the RUU.
And I get that if it's in the ROM it can't be removed, but both Peep and Friendstream are HTC Apps that could be loaded on the phone as Apps rather then baked into the ROM. Same with VZNav and Skype as it was in 2.1 when you could download them in the market.
I get all the business reasons behind all this stuff being there. I was in the business in the early days when crapware was just starting to creep into handsets. However, it still cheeses me off that the business side of VZW killed one of the primary features of this release (better battery life) with crapware.
I loaded the RUU the day it was found and everything has been great, super fast and responsive.. I think loading a fresh OS was the way to go..
I got the OTA update notification, clicked on the "More Info" button and after reading about the update clicked on the "Install" button.
Everything seemed to be going well and then I got the triangle w/ an exclamation point on the screen. It was there for a while until I pressed the power button.
This took me to a menu with options to reboot and a couple other things. The update.zip file never d/l'd and now that the Incredible is back in 2.1, I'm not getting the update notification again.
Should I just use the available ROM to update or wait to see how long it takes Verizon to push the OTA notice again?
Also, under Menu - Settings - About Phone - System Updates it shows that my Incredible is currently up to date. Software Version shows 2.1-update 1.
Suggestions?
Thanks!
Mike/KD6FTR
@ VZWRocks--I know what you're saying about being impatient but I didn't touch the phone while it was updating..I let it do its thing till I got the lock screen. I would never do a battery pull while its updating like that.
As far as available memory is concerned - I uninstalled ATK and am using the Running services section to kill apps and using Stem Panel Lite to view system resources. The phone's slight slowdown and more battery drain are symptoms of less system resources as is the music skipping. System panel also shows less available memory as well.
2.2 might have its own built in task killer but the amount of available memory is less due to the additional crapware that came with the update.