Anyone seen the review of the Pixel XL then compared it to the 6p?

[Dconn1975]

Man... We are speaking the SAME language! These are my EXACT thoughts!!!

Interesting to hear a lot agree with my thoughts. I'm in no way knocking the Pixel what so ever as heck, I wouldn't mind having one but the differences are just justified enough between these two awesome devices to make one $300 more. It's all marketing from androids strongest name

 

[Blurr26]

So I watched a detailed review on the Pixel XL. No doubt a nice device but please do tell me if I'm missing something major here to justify market value of the Pixel to be 300 dollars roughly more than the 6p. Okay the Pixel has one more gig of ram. Real world that's not much to tell. It has less speaker capacity. Specs cone out to be pretty close to the 6p overall and they of course have the same interface minus it having 7.1. Okay another plus for pixel. Updates quicker and for a longer time period. I'm still not seeing $300 market value difference yet. 6p has really everything one would expect from a flagship standpoint. So my question is are we seeing a loss of the powerful Nexus with flagship specs at a $399 value to be replaced by pixel which is almost twice the cost yet to get pretty much the same performance of the wonderful price of the 6p? I watched the entire review on YouTube. Is basically the 6p device tweaked a bit but since I value homes for a living and certify to data supported market value, how on earth can any data be found to support the almost $300 dollar value difference in these two devices? Unless im missing a major market speak upgrade, no data I've found or can compile would be supported on paper to substantiate such an increase on overall sales price of the Pixel XL to be that of almost double the 6p. As an appraiser when I value a home I select true comparable sales that are similar to my subject. The subject in this case is the 6p which one the marker value world you adjust to the comparable property to make it appear like the subject by extracting data from a sales analysis to derive an adjustment to get an adjusted value which is set off from its sells price or in this case the retail price of the Pixel. If you take this pixel retail and try to market adjust it to be like that of the 6p on paper, I cannot find any data that supports a $300 dollar superior to the 6p adjustment for it to have an adjusted overall sales price to almost double the 6p. I know it sounds odd but that's how you appraise property of any type. You take the comparable and adjust it by supported data to make it look as if it were the subject which in this case is the 6p. The pixel is an excellent comparable product so it's a valid comparable sale so to speak. If anyone is in the market value industry all this will make perfect sense. There is no data that suggests the Pixel to be almost double in value compared to the 6p.

Thoughts anyone?

That's why I'm hoping for a good Black Friday price for the 6P and sign up for Project Fi (currently on Sprint with LG G3). Cost/Benefit is certainly in the eye of the beholder, but for me the Pixel is WAY overpriced for me. Again, depends on the individual's own cost/benefit numbers...

 

[grover5]

I don't want to give up the speakers on my 6p. I'm very happy with this device.

 

[GPuba]

Interesting to hear a lot agree with my thoughts. I'm in no way knocking the Pixel what so ever as heck, I wouldn't mind having one but the differences are just justified enough between these two awesome devices to make one $300 more. It's all marketing from androids strongest name

You are really expressing my very thoughts, thus the reason there is nothing much I can add here.

 

[GPuba]

That's why I'm hoping for a good Black Friday price for the 6P and sign up for Project Fi (currently on Sprint with LG G3). Cost/Benefit is certainly in the eye of the beholder, but for me the Pixel is WAY overpriced for me. Again, depends on the individual's own cost/benefit numbers...

That is definitely the way to go. I did that very thing last year on Black Friday, and was able to purchase a 64gb Nexus 6 for $249, so I don't see any reason that you shouldn't be able to get that type of deal on the 6p this year. Just make sure you catch it early in the morning, before the sale runs out.

 

[Blurr26]

That is definitely the way to go. I did that very thing last year on Black Friday, and was able to purchase a 64gb Nexus 6 for $249, so I don't see any reason that you shouldn't be able to get that type of deal on the 6p this year. Just make sure you catch it early in the morning, before the sale runs out.

I'll be keeping an eye on it right out of the gate hopeful for a good deal. Of course nothing will beat my purchase in June of last year. I was going to buy the LG G4 until I saw the LG G3 for $.01 (new!). Not expecting that of course, but pretty confident there should be a good price for the 6P come the holidays...

 

[Dconn1975]

I'll be keeping an eye on it right out of the gate hopeful for a good deal. Of course nothing will beat my purchase in June of last year. I was going to buy the LG G4 until I saw the LG G3 for $.01 (new!). Not expecting that of course, but pretty confident there should be a good price for the 6P come the holidays...

Anything below $399 for the 32g at least will be an awesome deal bc this device is already one of the best out there for the money it's currently priced at. I thought I was going to need a 64g but I've realized quick that I didn't need it at all. I've hardly used any gigs but I also don't download movies or music. I stream them all. Good luck and let us know what you end up getting it for!

 

[Blurr26]

Anything below $399 for the 32g at least will be an awesome deal bc this device is already one of the best out there for the money it's currently priced at. I thought I was going to need a 64g but I've realized quick that I didn't need it at all. I've hardly used any gigs but I also don't download movies or music. I stream them all. Good luck and let us know what you end up getting it for!

Will do! I did some digging online and found this past July on Amazon (for Prime members) the 6P was on sale for $403 (64) and $478 (128) so I'm REALLY hoping for some good sales soon.

 

[Dconn1975]

Will do! I did some digging online and found this past July on Amazon (for Prime members) the 6P was on sale for $403 (64) and $478 (128) so I'm REALLY hoping for some good sales soon.

Wow! For a 64g? Dang that's what I paid for my 32g. That's flat out madness awesome. Man I hope you get you a deal as you will love this device. It's why I started this thread. I knew that the 6p was basically tweaked and renamed the Pixel and priced $300 more. Some may not agree but I felt pretty sure I was at least 90 percent correct.

 

[Buddy1969]

... I knew that the 6p was basically tweaked and renamed the Pixel and priced $300 more...

No it's not.
As others stated before:
Different processor, different RAM, different display and display size, different manufacturer, ... well ... different everything.
How is this a tweaked 6P?
A wrong statement doesn't become right just by repeating it...

my 2cents

 

[neo905]

No it's not.
As others stated before:
Different processor, different RAM, different display and display size, different manufacturer, ... well ... different everything.
How is this a tweaked 6P?
A wrong statement doesn't become right just by repeating it...

my 2cents

My 2cents. Regardless, it isn't $300 better than the 6P. It just isn't. Actually $500 more in Canada...

 

[dty06]

Software speaking, I don't think the 6P will get seamless updates. That requires setting up a new partition that I don't think can be feasibly done via an OTA.

This is correct. Google confirmed that the seamless updates will only be on devices which ship with 7.0 or higher, so the Pixel and Pixel XL will have it, but the 6P, coming from a single partition OS, will not. Minor feature for most of us, though, since we only have to run updates once a month and can choose a convenient time to restart the device.

 

[LeoRex]

Well, mobile devices are hitting that wall of diminishing returns. Every phone manufacturer is expected to put out a new model on a regular basis but there isn't as much meat on the hardware advancement bone anymore. The Pixel is a better phone than the 6P, but it's not this massive upgrade... its a little bit faster, gets a little bit better battery life, the camera is a little bit better. Yes, the Pixel is a great phone, but its presence doesn't make the 6P any less great.

In terms of 'value' I think the Pixel's problem is timing. It has the misfortune of following one of the best phones ever made, and one that happens to have been a pretty good value compared to its competition. The 6P was a tough act to follow.

So I'm keeping my 64GB graphite 6P, and I am becoming more comfortable with that decision, even as my other cohorts here in the AC volunteer staff regale me with tales of their great Pixels... and I'll wait for the Pixel 2 to replace it next Fall.

 

[GPuba]

Will do! I did some digging online and found this past July on Amazon (for Prime members) the 6P was on sale for $403 (64) and $478 (128) so I'm REALLY hoping for some good sales soon.

You are correct. I got my 6p (128gb) on Prime Day (July 12th) for $478.

 

[Blurr26]

No it's not.
As others stated before:
Different processor, different RAM, different display and display size, different manufacturer, ... well ... different everything.
How is this a tweaked 6P?
A wrong statement doesn't become right just by repeating it...

my 2cents

I (think) I get what he meant by "tweaked". In the literal sense it's obviously more than that (from the various hardware improvements, etc), but I think the intention was that what the actual "on paper" upgrades translate to in real world use are much less significant...

 

[Blurr26]

You are correct. I got my 6p (128gb) on Prime Day (July 12th) for $478.

MORE evidence for my excitement over the hope of getting a good 6P deal soon!

 

[Dconn1975]

I (think) I get what he meant by "tweaked". In the literal sense it's obviously more than that (from the various hardware improvements, etc), but I think the intention was that what the actual "on paper" upgrades translate to in real world use are much less significant...

This is exactly what I meant and thank you for the statement or post. I'm not trying to start a hostile debate bc on paper the Pixel is the superior device but in a user's hand both devices will almost appear identical. That was my point all along that in the real world and general market appeal, the Pixel doesn't have that single or even multiple wow factors to support the $300 price difference. I'm with the other post that mentioned waiting until the next pixel is released. By that time there will have been enough market value worth difference to swap.

 

[Blurr26]

This is exactly what I meant and thank you for the statement or post. I'm not trying to start a hostile debate bc on paper the Pixel is the superior device but in a user's hand both devices will almost appear identical. That was my point all along that in the real world and general market appeal, the Pixel doesn't have that single or even multiple wow factors to support the $300 price difference. I'm with the other post that mentioned waiting until the next pixel is released. By that time there will have been enough market value worth difference to swap.

Ironically, I'm generally not the biggest poster, but I wanted to chime in on that one. Oftentimes, posts/texts/etc. can be readily misinterpreted w/o other audio/visual cues (hence emoticons? Lol). I agree about waiting for the Pixel 2 although in my case I'll likely be looking to get the Pixel 2 when/if there's a Pixel 3.

 

[CardFan502]

I'm way late to the conversation here, but I'll chime in anyway since I had both phones. I scored a Amazon Warehouse Deal for a 32GB 6P, but it was backordered and didn't show up right away. Started reading all the positive reviews of the Pixel and ordered an XL also. I used the XL for 4 solid days before the 6P showed up, then switched to the 6P and ended up returning the XL after a few days. I thought the Pixel was a great phone, and the battery life for me was awesome, but it wasn't $300 better, much less $500 (my price difference). I find the 6P battery life more than adequate, and the speed differences were not noticeable for how I use the phone (no gaming or other intensive use). I also like the bigger screen and speakers on the 6P better. So OP, based on my experience, I think you're dead on regarding the price difference of the two phones. But I also agree with other commenters that there are other factors in play here for Google, and they are taking a whole new approach with the Pixel. But for people like us who are hanging out on forums posting about our phones, the 6P is still a better deal IMO.

 

[GPuba]

This is exactly what I meant and thank you for the statement or post. I'm not trying to start a hostile debate bc on paper the Pixel is the superior device but in a user's hand both devices will almost appear identical. That was my point all along that in the real world and general market appeal, the Pixel doesn't have that single or even multiple wow factors to support the $300 price difference. I'm with the other post that mentioned waiting until the next pixel is released. By that time there will have been enough market value worth difference to swap.

Again, I agree 100%. I was thinking about upgrading to the Pixel XL until I went to the Verizon store with my 6p in tow and played with both phones for 30 minutes side-by-side. It immediately became apparent to me that I would be better off waiting until the autumn of 2017 to upgrade my phone, for all the reasons that you've stated.

I then gave away my Nexus 9 and purchased a Pixel C.